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How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
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Nov 10, 2023, 4:04 AM
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Can't remember what thread it was on, but the question was asked, "how many children have to die for you to give up your AR-15?"
All of them.
Does that sound crazy? Well, of course it does, because it's a false premise. The reason there isn't a number of kids that would have to die to make me consider giving up a gun is because giving up a gun doesn't save kids. It's essentially like me asking how many car wrecks have to happen for you to burn your house down? Of course your answer would be there is no number.
If I'm the last person on earth with an AR15, my right to have one remains. Let me askbyou gun control people this. How many kids have to die before you arm schools and get rid of gun free zones?
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
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Nov 10, 2023, 5:46 AM
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Fun free zones are just stupid. How dumb do you have to be to post a sign saying “gun free zone?” It’s telling psychos “hey we can’t defend ourselves here, come do your thing”. A better sign would be “every adult in our school is packing, think about it thug”.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
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Nov 10, 2023, 7:10 AM
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We are the most heavily armed society in the developed world. FACT. Are we the safest when it comes to gun violence? No, we are the worst. FACT. Guns are here to stay, but LOL at the BS narrative.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
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Nov 10, 2023, 7:38 AM
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You honestly think it’s wise for a school to put a sign up saying we have no guns here ? That’s just beyond stupid. I was kidding about advertising the teachers are packing. But good grief don’t advertise that the school is defenseless!
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If they all have resource officers, they won't be.***
Nov 10, 2023, 8:02 AM
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
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Nov 10, 2023, 2:12 PM
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Why should just the teachers be armed? How about the students? Imagine how safe the schools would be them.
I don't see an age limit for "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED".
Am I doing this right?
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This is the safest country ever - just try
Nov 10, 2023, 2:23 PM
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and shoot yourself and see. Some lousy POS will intervene and save your a$$.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 11, 2023, 4:57 AM
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Well, generally speaking, adults have rights, and that starts at 18. So no, there's no kid that needs to have guns at schools. You're fundamentally misunderstanding how rights work. Also, arming teachers has problems, but a gun free school has more. I'm personally for retired, vetted military members who saw action being paid to man schools, and extremely vetted and trained teachers being allowed to carry or have a firearm in a safe. I believe one teacher wanting to pick the responsibility up is better than sitting around waiting on a cop to get there.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 11, 2023, 5:51 AM
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There are plenty of High school seniors who are adults. Why should they not be allowed to carry? How safe would schools be if all students were allowed to be armed? An armed society is a safe society.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 12, 2023, 10:45 AM
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That's a good point, and I'm not sure how to answer it. My outlook on rights and adults is if 18 is an adult then it's an adult across the board. If not, then move the age back. But you can't say 18 is ok to do this but not this. I think its easier to start from the basis of why aren't older adults allowed to (such as principles, armed security) first.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
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Nov 10, 2023, 7:57 AM
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Right now America's 2nd Amendment is the only thing left saving the world from The New World Order.
That is why they are trying so hard to take it away. Wait until the truth comes out.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
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Nov 10, 2023, 7:58 AM
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It’s our duty to remain armed. Yes, our duty.
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No, it's not.
Nov 10, 2023, 8:01 AM
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And I feel the same way about the 2nd Amendment that you do, but no, it's not anyone's "duty" to do so. Some people aren't comfortable with guns and I respect that. I expect them to respect my right to have them.
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Re: No, it's not.
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:04 AM
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"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
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Re: No, it's not.
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:08 AM
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Thank you!
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So are you implying...
Nov 10, 2023, 8:17 AM
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It's our duty now because you think we should rise up against the government?
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Re: So are you implying...
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:21 AM
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No. It’s our duty to defend our homes and nation. If you’re not comfortable with guns I’ll defend you too.
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Wow, so tough.***
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:27 AM
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Re: Wow, so tough.***
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:31 AM
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Nope not me. That’s why I’m armed to protect my home. I was kidding about protecting him too ding dong.
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I've found guys who talk tough about their skill with guns
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:35 AM
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Usually weren't trained properly on how to use them and are generally very frightened.
Some of us got the proper learning and know what they're used for.
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Re: I've found guys who talk tough about their skill with guns
Nov 10, 2023, 11:29 AM
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I know how to handle a gun. I’m no expert but I have enough experience.
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How many times have you been the hero and stopped a crime?
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Nov 10, 2023, 1:48 PM
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Your mortality rate increased by keeping one in the home, but that is the risk heroes take, because you are out solving crimes, right?
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Then the cat with nine lives got cheated... twice over.***
Nov 11, 2023, 12:35 AM
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So you can't read.
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:30 AM
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Think I've summed up my stance on guns pretty well in this thread and previous ones.
As for what the kook posted, it sure sounded like he was saying we needed to rise up.
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Re: So you can't read.
Nov 12, 2023, 10:49 AM
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I didn't say we needed to rise up. I said ARs and the like are necessary should we ever need to resist the government. We all have different lines we draw. But one thing is for certain. Unarmed people are subjects. Armed people are citizens. You have zero power to resist anything at all without a gun. Some people won't figure it out until they're on the cattle car. Hell, even then they'll justify it by saying "we are the most free people in the world still, I mean we aren't in prisons or in gas chambers!"
Relative freedom is BS.
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Re: So you can't read.
Nov 12, 2023, 10:59 AM
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Youre never resisting the government with your AR's. Hard to believe people actually believe that nonsense.
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Who is attacking your home?
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Nov 10, 2023, 11:29 AM
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Do you have enemies you are anticipating attacks from?
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Re: Who is attacking your home?
Nov 10, 2023, 12:01 PM
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Now this is a dumb comment! Wow.
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No, it's not, really.
Nov 10, 2023, 12:03 PM
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Who is attacking your home?
And how do you think a stick built home is going to hold up in a fire fight?
You're FG door won't stop a .22, much less a 5.56..or more likely in teh topic of this thread, a missile from a reaper drone.
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Re: No, it's not, really.
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Nov 12, 2023, 10:53 AM
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Who is attacking your home?
And how do you think a stick built home is going to hold up in a fire fight?
You're FG door won't stop a .22, much less a 5.56..or more likely in teh topic of this thread, a missile from a reaper drone.
Why am I concerned about how my home will hold up in a firefight more than who lives and dies in the firefight? It's funny, you people want to bootlick so hard you'll justify any way you're just a small pissant that will never be able to resist. That mindset is pathetic, and un-American as hell. I don't care if I have a zero percent chance of something, it's my right to try.
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WOT?
Nov 15, 2023, 11:36 AM
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If you are in a firefight..wiuth anyone..you really need to be thinking about the structure around you and how it holds up.
And you are in a firefight..It's a given that you already care who lives and dies.
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Re: Who is attacking your home?
Nov 11, 2023, 1:43 PM
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If a person could anticipate attacks, they could avoid them. We don't anticipate fires either but it's worth having an extinguisher.
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I'm all for gun rights
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:33 AM
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but if you think armed civilians could win over a trained superiorly armed military, well that's just stuff movies are made of, I mean Wolverines was a good flick, but...
I know, I know, middle east, but those civilians grew up fighting, couldn't really call them untrained
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Re: I'm all for gun rights
Nov 11, 2023, 1:42 PM
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Wait, somehow you think those middle east fighters are trained but all the guys who were fighting them and are back home don't count? Lot of trained former military out there.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 12, 2023, 10:46 AM
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This is a fact. So many people disregard what the world would be like without it. It would quite literally be whatever people in power want it to.
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 10, 2023, 8:03 AM
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FACT - our infant mortality rate is almost 3rd world
If you really are concerned about kids dying than look at this stat. Way, way more dying from.....Vaxxes
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 10, 2023, 9:05 AM
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Yes 54th, but generally nowhwere really near the 3rd world countries on that list. Who knows the reasons for 54th, but maybe its because of all of the drugs addicts and alcoholics or maybe people just dont go get checkups at the hospital due to costs? Does it count abortions? Who knows?
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You did it again.
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Nov 10, 2023, 8:30 AM
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You start off so well, and then when it comes time to actually understand WHY the US has higher infant mortality rates, you go with...wait for it...vaccines.
Godalmighty, dude. Do better. This isn't a new development, and it didn't start 2 years ago.
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Re: You did it again.
Nov 10, 2023, 9:01 AM
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I said vaxxes, not Covid vaxxes!
Please read before opening your mouth
SIDS never existed before we started loaded up our babies
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Yes, it absolutely did, just like autism.
Nov 10, 2023, 9:02 AM
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Just because it didn't have a commonly known name or regular diagnosis doesn't mean it didn't exist.
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Re: Yes, it absolutely did, just like autism.
Nov 10, 2023, 9:12 AM
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How are all of us here alive that were born before 1983?
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Re: You did it again.
Nov 10, 2023, 9:16 AM
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They get all of the vaxxes as well in those countries doing the best , so you can knock that reasoning out as a possibility.
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I know you're not a subscriber to WP, so how are you reading this?
Nov 10, 2023, 9:09 AM
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Care to C/P? Also, calling people morons as you beg to be taken seriously doesn't really help your cause.
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Re: I know you're not a subscriber to WP, so how are you reading this?
Nov 10, 2023, 9:14 AM
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Godalmighty, dude. Do better. isn't helping your cause when you do not even read someone's post
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You provided a subscription WaPo link.
Nov 10, 2023, 9:17 AM
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Did you forget over the course of two posts?
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 11, 2023, 4:50 AM
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Well, the entire problem with this debate is that pro gun control people want to believe there is no death toll on the other side of the equation. They compare gun deaths to a stat that can't be measured. It really is wild, because we do have historical data to prove potential likely scenarios, yet the left wants to completely ignore them and trust government.
It's essentially the exact same thing as me pointing out that having a fire extinguisher is a good idea, because a fire could happen, and here's other houses that have had fires and how they started, and you looking at me and saying, "that can't happen", "you wouldn't be able to put it out anyway, that's laughable", or "your likelihood of getting beat to death by your significant other with a fire extinguisher assault weapon is higher if you own one and it's in your house".
No shittake Sherlock. But I'm not weighing "getting beat to death by a fire extinguisher vs nothing."
I'm weighing getting beat to death by a fire extinguisher vs my house buying down, and you guys pretending it can't catch on fire, despite numerous examples.
Governments tyrant. That's what they do. Given enough time, they always do. Some faster than others, but power never cedes.
Also, I'd love to actually have a conversation about the effectiveness of a revolution or resistance today with people, but as always, we ignore thoughtful conversation and consideration to run straight to "f16s bro".
Look, I'm actually not sitting here saying the people would win. I'm also not saying they wouldn't. I don't know. I'm just not flippantly dismissing it, because it doesn't always go as you think. If this was a unified US military against a unified resistance that wore identifiable uniforms and all lived in one spot, yes, I would agree that it wouldn't be realistic at all. Few bombs and they're done. However that's not what it is. It's door to door, flushing out and trying to determine who is and isn't. That's incredibly hard in a society of 340 million people spread over the entire nation geographically living next door to a willing boot licker.
Drone strikes and f16s don't exactly work in those scenarios, bro.
Here's another problem. Why are we assuming the military would be lockstep with each other? Everyone in the military, across all branches and in all states will be in unison for killing Americans? Seriously doubt that. What happens when a few of them say no? Suddenly it isn't some guy with a pee shooter vs a tank, huh?
Open your minds and have a legit discussion if you want to learn. Pretending we have it all figured out in that regard is incredibly stupid and arrogant.
That being said, I don't know the answer to the result either. It would depend on what started it, how legitimate of a reason they had, propaganda wars, and what outside influence there was with what side. But regardless, I have a right to own weapons that will be needed should that day come. I don't forfeit my right to self preservation just because it's a tyrannical government and not a robber in my house.
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Nov 10, 2023, 7:41 AM
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Re: How many kids have to die for you to give guns up?
Nov 10, 2023, 8:13 AM
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If I did have an AR15 I know it would be used to kill anyone. I think you mean the ability to buy them now. I think with ghost guns and things of that nature we wont be solving the gun supply issue, but I wouldnt mind making AR15 type guns illegal. I am more for stricter background checks, mandatory back ground checks for independent sales as in making it a felony for individuals that sell to eachother dont follow through with the check, then of course I think people covicted of domestic violence or having certain mental issues should lose their gun rights for a bit, and finally I think there should be maybe a 10 day waiting list to get your gun after the application. Make it striicted, but in the end everyone that should have guns get theirs. I do know that the stricter they make things the better the black market will thrive though. Same as it was with weed.
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Felons and people convicted of CDV
Nov 10, 2023, 9:20 AM
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Already "aren't allowed" to own or carry fire arms. I mean generally criminals are going to do criminal #### so most of them don't follow that "recommendation".
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Re: Felons and people convicted of CDV
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Nov 10, 2023, 11:33 AM
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Most felons do follow the gun rules actually, because most arent violent. I know a lot of them through the weed years. I was mentioning that there will be a huge market making the ghost guns now though or as things get tighter. Its already growing. Making it harder to get guns always helps though. It would limit deaths solve some situations, but not all.
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Why does anyone need an AR-15?
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Nov 10, 2023, 11:27 AM
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Because if they aren't needed to accomplish whatever you're hoping to accomplish with them, all we're doing is allowing an assault weapon to be available for criminals and sickos to use to commit crimes and harm people.
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What is an "assault weapon"?
Nov 10, 2023, 12:05 PM
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There are other semiautomatic rifles. Is it just because they look mean?
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Why do you "need" to have free speech?? We could certainly put an end to
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hurtful speech, arguments, and some violence if everyone had to get a Government approved "need" before they were allowed to speak. Fortunately our Constitutional rights are not "needs" based.
So... the whole "why do you need "x" firearm?" is a false argument under our Constitutional system. The 2A has no litmus test of "need" just as you aren't required to demonstrate a "need" to exercise your 1A or other Constitutional rights.
PS... Define "Assault Weapon"... A baseball bat can be an "assault weapon" if used to bash someone's brains out. A hammer can be an "assault weapon" if used to beat Paul Pelosi on the head. This whole term "ban assault weapons" is a stupid mantra that shows an utter lack of understanding of firearms...
PS 2....Just FYI... The AR-15 class of weapons are the most popular sport's rifles in the USA for many reasons - among which they are light, fun to shoot, and offer very little recoil. There are some 15(+) million AR-15's owned by the US public with the overwhelming majority being safely used in recreational and other lawful pursuits. By far - handguns are overwhelmingly the weapon of choice in firearm criminal activity.
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Re: Why does anyone need an AR-15?
Nov 11, 2023, 4:52 AM
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They are needed.
Say it with me,
"If they have muskets, we have muskets."
"If they have full auto M4s, we have......oh, wait."
We're behind.
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Re: Why does anyone need an AR-15?
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Have you seen how cool they look? They're bitchin!
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How many lives could we save if Americans would just stop their unhealthy
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Nov 10, 2023, 1:48 PM
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lifestyle choices that include over-eating, bad dietary habits, alcohol use, smoking and other drug use that leads to the highest causes of death in the USA; heart disease, diabetes, over-dosing etc...
Bad lifestyle choices and it's major offspring - an epidemic of obesity - is killing way more people every year in the USA than guns and other bludgeoning implements. Additionally these bad lifestyle choices are among the biggest factors driving our medical and health insurance costs through the roof.
So what laws should we pass to fix our epidemic of overweight/obesity problem in the USA?? When is Congress going to get serious about the most prevalent health problem hurting America?? Who am I kidding - to even discuss it now is considered "fat shaming"...
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pretends to defend children
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attends abortion rally
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How many kids had to die before we gave abortion up?
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MILLIONS. Don't forget.
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