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Do you look down on those that rescue dogs from the humane society instead
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:10 PM
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of buying a purebred from a breeder?
That’s about the closest comparison I can make about transfer portal players. Sometimes a pitbull/lab mix is what we need instead of designer golden doodle
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Re: Do you look down on those that rescue dogs from the humane society instead
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:13 PM
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This is absurd lol
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Re: Jesus Turned Water Into Wine***
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* youth pastor voice* He also got 12 guys from the transfer portal and using God’s NIL turned them into disciples!!
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Oh God the stupidity***
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:28 PM
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Re: Oh God the stupidity***
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:31 PM
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No we don't, he's a awful person now
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Sep 4, 2024, 8:58 PM
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He is trying to win a Natty. Dabo has a couple and now is taking care of friends, sons of friends, ex-players and relatives instead of a killer winning attitude. $11m/year for a while, why not?
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Gridiron Giant [16048]
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What if those 33 players transferred from poor situations and now Brent
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Sep 4, 2024, 10:35 PM
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is serving them and feeding their hearts like they've never been fed.
Maybe Brent is serving better than if he recruited some high maintenance 5 star from high school. Maybe the transfers actually are thankful.
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Players in the transfer portal need molding too.***
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Re: Players in the transfer portal need molding too.***
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Amen JK, this whole transfer portal is the devil stuff is ridiculous. There are many good ways of using the portal to fill temporary gaps in the roster. Recruits don’t always pan out and most coaches like to fill the gaps so they do better than 9-3.
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Needs an exorcism****
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Sep 4, 2024, 11:18 PM
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Transfer portal aside I think Venables is focused on winning his football games and not so much on surrounding himself with people he cares about. I think Dabo has taken his eyes off the prize. This isn't how you run a business.
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Dabo spoke at length during yesterdays press conference about people.
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He went on and on about what great people we have, and said that when you have the right people everything else takes care of itself.
He places too much credit on our culture and having good guys around, and too little on making sure those people are also really great at what they do.
I believe it’s possible to have both, but you can’t neglect the football knowledge and experience piece. Unfortunately, Dabo has.
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Paw Warrior [4859]
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Re: Dabo spoke at length during yesterdays press conference about people.
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Sep 5, 2024, 7:31 AM
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Our main issue is not developing the players we have - mainly due to inexperienced coaches that are learning as they go ..
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Sep 4, 2024, 11:45 PM
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Tune back in at the end of the season. Let's see what OK's record is then.
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For those who didn't get my point of course we still respect coach V
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Sep 5, 2024, 12:01 AM
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It's possible to care a lot about all of the players on your roster irrespective of how the came to be on your roster. If you're someone who believes coach V is like Dabo and is trying to better young men's lives; then why would you also think that all coaches who engage with the portal are only looking to take advantage of young men?
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Still pi---d that while on his way out the door...
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Sep 5, 2024, 2:30 AM
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he stole the high 4 star LB we had committed to us who was a starter for the Sooners at WLB in 2023.(Kanak)
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Sep 5, 2024, 6:27 AM
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The Oklahoma situation is the example that Dabo uses when talking about when using the portal would be necessary.
It is irrelevant to Clemson’s situation. A bunch of players went in the Portal when Riley left. Oklahoma had to go into the portal to replace then. Many of the replacements only had one year of eligibility left. Couple that with losing another double digit group to the portal last year and you can’t field a team without going into the portal.
When Dabo decides to hang it up at Ckemson, we will be the biggest portal team in football. We will immediately lose 15-20 kids to the portal. Not our 2 and 3s on the depth chart but half of the 15-20 will be starters. Those kids came to Clemson to play for Dabo. For a couple of years Clemson will be more like todays Colorado approach than todays Clemson approach with respect to the portal.
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This is coach Vs 3rd season he's had 3 recruiting classes; he had roughly the
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Same Number of portal losses this year as Jawja and O310 state. The 16 transfers he brought in this year is steady state not a function of the coaching change. Coach has adapted to the current college operating model; Dabo has not.
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Sep 5, 2024, 7:36 AM
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He’s using the available resources to help improve his team and “win” … have you seen the same “fire” in our team since he left?
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Someone could have a heart attack could die and leave Clemson that way and idiots like you would drum up a reason to #### on their grave.
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Valley Legend [12290]
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What did I say that was derogatory towards coach V?
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Sep 5, 2024, 9:24 AM
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Or is it possible that people like you (not gonna call YOU a name) misunderstood the nature of my post.
I overestimated the ability of Tnet to grasp nuance so let me spell it out.
Coach V is a good man who cares about his players and seeks to grow them as people and not just players. The fact that he gets some of those players from the portal is irrelevant towards that goal and should not impact how we think of him. Dabo could still do all of the great things he does for our guys even if some of our guys come from the portal.
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Just because some of us applaud Dabo's approach to the transfer portal
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Sep 5, 2024, 7:44 AM
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doesn't mean that use of the transfer portal is inherently wrong. As long as he's clear with everyone he recruits that he's active both in high school and in the transfer portal, and that he isn't promising them that he won't recruit a senior over them if it will make an immediate impact...and as long as, whenever they join his program, he invests in them beyond just "how can I use you to win more games?", then absolutely, I still respect him and think he's in it for the right reasons.
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
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Sep 5, 2024, 9:32 AM
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Brent is his own man. He's the head coach and it's his decision. I still am grateful to Brent for building a championship defense at Clemson. Wish him nothing but luck unless he plays us. Also hope he dominates the SEC his first year.
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Re: Curious do we still respect Brent Venables and think hes in it for the right
Sep 5, 2024, 9:35 AM
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What's his record again?
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He was 10-3 last year we were 9-4***
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Re: He was 10-3 last year we were 9-4***
Sep 5, 2024, 11:43 AM
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The two years he's been there he is 16-10. Dabo is 20-7. Doesn't seem like the portal made a big difference either way.
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if he doesnt win 10+ this year hes gone.
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Sep 5, 2024, 9:38 AM
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So idk that he doesn’t care about the kids but he’s got goals to meet and he’s using every resource available to get there.
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Re: if he doesnt win 10+ this year hes gone.
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He just signed a new contract a few months ago that runs through the 2029 season. He's not going to be fired this year. His buyout would be ridiculous.
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Orange Blooded [2417]
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Re: if he doesnt win 10+ this year hes gone.
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I live in Oklahoma, and I can tell you, if he doesn't win 10 he at least will be on a very very hot seat. Most people I talk to are not happy with him.
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