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Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 6:53 PM
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Sitting out a year has proven to kill careers, look at Levion Bell, most dominant RB in the league, held out a year to get paid and then was out the league a year later. The browns were 5-1 with him last year but their offense was significantly better with Joe Flacco coming off his sofa.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 6:55 PM
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He needs a healthy OL to help him out…
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 6:59 PM
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Joe Flacco passed for 300+ a game with that OL. He’s done man.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:08 PM
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Both starting OTs are out today…
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:57 PM
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Both starting OTs are out today…
Exactly
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 3:27 PM
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He looks like a zombie out there, doesn’t seem to care or be engaged at all. Missing wide open receivers, with plenty of time to throw. The starting OTs won’t make a difference, this isn’t college, they are pros. The RB won’t make a difference, Chubb was out last year when Flacco balled out. Every back up has thrived behind Dw4 in Cleveland when he’s been out. He’s terrible dude, going to go down as the worst trade in sports history. It will be studied in sport’s economics classes for years to come. I wish he could turn it around but can’t argue with what the facts and out eyes tell us.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:10 PM
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As much as I hate to say it I don’t think it was the fact he sat out a year. Just don’t think he is interested in football. Every Instagram post is on vacation in another country. Then I don’t think he sexually assaulted anyone but he was definitely paying to play. Sometimes money changes people. Still will always be my favorite Clemson player.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:46 PM
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Exactly. He's all about the luxury brands and peacocking on his instagram. Definitely not the Tom Brady model for success at least
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Rival Killer [2618]
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Yep! Hope he has someone smart managing his money
Sep 9, 2024, 3:03 PM
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Instead of setting up future generations of his family to succeed, he’s taking full advantage of his money!
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 5:41 PM
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You can't give your employees F-you money and expect them not to say F-you. That is the problem with making people so rich they never have to work again. Turns out they don't want to work again.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Flaco was a bust, he came in like every other quarterback in that situation does he comes in light it up and And then once he settles in, he puts wrapping paper on the ball and starts throwing numerous interception after interception crucial moments!
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 9, 2024, 2:11 PM
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Flaco was a bust? Are you sure about that?
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 2:15 PM
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Cam Newton had a very successful career, and he will be in the HOF one day.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 11, 2024, 8:19 PM
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Both were useless
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 12, 2024, 4:35 PM
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Stop saying this about Cam Newton that he was useless. Why are u going at the Greatest Dual Threat Quarterback in the NFL with 75 Rushing TDs?
Cam is a great warrior & a top trainor. 👍💕🙏
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 12, 2024, 4:35 PM
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Stop saying this about Cam Newton that he was useless. Why are u going at the Greatest Dual Threat Quarterback in the NFL with 75 Rushing TDs?
Cam is a great warrior & a top trainor. 👍💕🙏
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 11, 2024, 9:28 AM
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What do u mean Deshaun Watson turned into Cam Newton? What does Cam have to do with him? It’s on Deshaun. Stop using Cam.
Cam didn’t go to Clemson!
Trevor Lawrence went to Clemson. He is a #1 pick in 2021!
Could it be really Trevor Lawrence who went to Clemson?
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Sep 11, 2024, 4:47 PM
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Deshaun Watson didn’t turn into Cam Newton. Cam didn’t go to Clemson.
Deshaun turned into Trevor Lawrence who just got a big contract from the Jaguars and who went to Clemson, too! 👁👁
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This is not a team designed for Joe Flacco. With the loss
Sep 10, 2024, 7:57 PM
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of 2 tackles, the OL was pathetic. They could not pick up changes at the line well at all. Receivers didn't help out by breaking off routes or blocking worth a crap. There was not much of a running game and DW4 barely reached drop back position from the shotgun position. I would concede that DW4 was not playing superb but that was definitely a team loss-not a horrific performance by the QB.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 6:55 PM
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Yeah, he’s cooked. Doesn’t look anywhere close to his former self.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:05 PM
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He's not going anywhere for at least 3 more years...The cap hit would be catastrophic for Cleveland...he's guaranteed 230m
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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He won’t be playing. Not if he continues like today. The fans have been booing him since early in the game. They’ve only had one good drive all game.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:15 PM
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Then he will be the highest paid cheerleader in history…
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:40 PM
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So much of his contract was guaranteed that he would be fine if they parted ways. Kinda like buying out a coach you don’t want anymore.
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:54 PM
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Brown's had to to release or trade multiple players to make the salary cap work to get DW4. It was a forgone conclusion that his supporting cast would not be that strong. If his play does not improve it will simply guarantee multiple years of losing in Cleveland. The deal made no sesnse to most observers due to all the baggage. The Browns have a long history of bad moves at QB an this will likely be one more. He's going to get paid and they will be stuck with him for the full 5 years.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:59 PM
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I mean they have Amari Cooper, Jerry Juedy, and Nojoku who are 2 very good catching threats...They had Nick Chubb before is catastrophic injury and Jerome Ford...They have playmakers....Watson is holding the ball too long and is inaccurate as Ray Charles in an archery tournament.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 8, 2024, 8:42 PM
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They had no running game and their top 2 OTs out. That gave Dallas the opportunity to pin their ears back and just go after him. The quote from the in-game announcers put it in perspective:
"Watson has been sacked 6 times with a million hurries and a ton of QB hits. That is the story of the game for the Browns."
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 8, 2024, 8:46 PM
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So much of his contract was guaranteed that he would be fine if they parted ways. Kinda like buying out a coach you don’t want anymore.
It’s not like buying out a coach at all. There is a salary cap, and they cannot escape DW’s hit to that cap.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:15 PM
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He is not about to give up 130 million and no other team is going to pay that for the baggage that comes with him. Let him enjoy the money.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:41 PM
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So much of his contract was guaranteed that he would be fine if they parted ways. Kinda like buying out a coach you don’t want anymore.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 8, 2024, 8:06 PM
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They can release him in ‘26, they will still owe him every penny but the cap hit will be the best then if they think the final 2 years are a waste and want to move on.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:17 PM
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DW has lost his mojo. Hate to see it…he was a talented player in his day.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:18 PM
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Still cannot understand what he was thinking voluntarily going to the Browns. That place kills more careers than injuries do
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:19 PM
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It was all about the $$$…
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:21 PM
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Same reasons golfers went to LIV…for the guaranteed money.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 8, 2024, 8:38 PM
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He made a lot of money in Houston but the big money, guaranteed contract came from Cleveland. He had rejected them as a contender until their last offer and then he accepted it.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Houston was running their franchise into the ground when he wanted out. Hopkins trade was the final straw. Watson wanted to win and a few years back they were rapidly regressing.
Get his OL and Chubb back and this post won’t age very well.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Before he got the money, he was hungry, and dedicated to playing his best. Since he got paid, he looks more concerned about posting his expensive clothing, bling, vacations, and his sexy girlfriend on IG. Money changes people, don't seem like he has the drive to ball out.
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His OL is a total train wreck
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:50 PM
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..... I'm a cowboy fan, and their pass rush is scary....but DW4 needs some help. That OL is TERRIBLE. They left Micah Parsons unblocked on one of his sacks. UNBLOCKED. OL coach should be fired.
Know who that didn't happen to, and got double teamed almost all game? Miles Garrett.
It ain't all on DW4. I felt bad for him because his OL protection was just pathetic.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 7:53 PM
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If I had his contract, could care less if I played another down.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 9:37 PM
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You can’t spell overreact without ovary.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 9:46 PM
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Coming back from that shoulder injury certainly had questions about if he could return to his former throwing ability. Now I look at him out there and it’s like he’s interested to be anywhere but on the field. He think he knows it’s not going to work.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 8, 2024, 9:57 PM
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Nope. Cannot make a judgment on Watson after today’s game.
The team had seven penalties in the first half.
The O line was horrible. Parsons was left unblocked multiple times.
I don’t know how Watson will perform this season, but you cannot make a judgment after today.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 10:53 PM
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Can you make a judgement about him from the last 3 years? Because he's been one of the worst QBs in the league every time he's played over the last 3 years. He's cooked.
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Sep 9, 2024, 1:22 PM
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over the last 3 years he’s played a handful of games that’s it then got hurt…
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I agree Deshaun is cooked, but he'll be somewhere next year
Sep 8, 2024, 10:10 PM
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Keep in mind the Browns can't cut him after the season or they'll have what is probably the biggest dead cap hit in the history of the NFL.
As the saying goes, they are up a creek.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 8, 2024, 10:16 PM
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Who cares at this pint. He has been given more money tbat most people in the world could ever imagine. So "hate it for DW4", I don't think so. A normal person with a career, that under performed and gets fired has to get back up and earn a living. The NFL and college football are rewarding huge dollars without being earned. So I don't hate it for him, I'm happy that he got his. But reality is he hasn't earned hardly any if it.
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Today he looked totally disconnected and disinterested.***
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
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Sep 9, 2024, 10:37 AM
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Flacco is old now. Give DW a chance. It's only 1 game out of 17 weeks. Too many people judge sports by one game. Just hold your horses, because no one week is like another. Look at Clemson after the Georgia thrashing. 66-20 a week later, looked like a different team. Patience my friend, patience.
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Is this a serious comment?
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Sep 9, 2024, 4:30 PM
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Nobody is judging DW4 by one game. He's been terrible his entire time with the Browns.
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DW4 is an interesting case study in blind loyalty and homerism
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Just based on his actions after leaving Clemson, Deshaun is not a likable person. There's obviously the massage stuff which is incredibly sketchy even if you don't believe he sexually assaulted anyone. He's also hung out with #### stars, sat out in Houston demanding a trade right after signing a contract extension (before he got in trouble), flaunts his money on social media, and generally just seems rather arrogant.
If he had played at any other college I doubt anyone here would have any use for him. But, because he played at Clemson, won us a title, and seemed like a generally likable and charismatic guy at the time, most people here are willing to ignore all of the things he's done since leaving Clemson.
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Re: DW4 is an interesting case study in blind loyalty and homerism
Sep 11, 2024, 8:38 PM
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How does posting on social media and hanging out with #### stars make you not likeable??
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Here we go again. Clemson goes 0-1, yall trying to make Dabo retire.
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Cleveland goes 0-1 and DW's career if finished.
Ya'll need to calm down.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 11:21 AM
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I saw a lot of dropped passes including a touchdown pass in the first quarter. If he can stay healthy and positive he will turn it around.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 1:38 PM
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DW hasn’t passed through Atlanta yet. That’s where every washed up QB inflates his retirement.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 1:59 PM
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They wanted him, but only Cleveland offered the fully guaranteed contract he was looking for.
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Never thought I'd say this but
Sep 9, 2024, 2:08 PM
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Baker Mayfield is turning out to be a better pro QB, and was better in Cleveland too. The team he led was a gift to the city, and ownership went all in on Deshaun. Had they kept Mayfield and other core guys, they could have been a regular in the playoffs. (I know they sneaked in the backdoor last year for a drubbing by the Texans, but I mean a consistent playoff team and winner of the AFC North.)
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Orange Blooded [2388]
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Yep. It's like breaking a hitting streak.
Sep 9, 2024, 2:14 PM
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Hard to get back into the groove.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 2:29 PM
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the guy is mentally checked out and has zero care. You can see it in his body language and effort.
You reap what you sew.
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Re: Hate it but DW4 will be out the league in a year
Sep 9, 2024, 2:34 PM
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Actually the cowboys are one of the better defenses he will see. Watson will be fine and will have the browns in position for a playoff spot. No need to over react to one game which is his first in a while and didn't play any preseason games. He will be fine.
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Love what he did at/for Clemson - but DW4 has never been better than a
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Sep 9, 2024, 4:33 PM
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"good" NFL QB. His eye-popping numbers with the Texans were often put up after the Texans got way behind and the opposing team went into a prevent defense or had completely lost interest...
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