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TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:33 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3181]
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Dont tell me Grisham is staying
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:35 PM
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Maybe holding on to him until after the bowl?
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Letterman [190]
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Re: Dont tell me Grisham is staying
Nov 30, 2023, 1:52 PM
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My guess is they don’t want to do anything right now with the 2 promising WR committed. Assume Grisham had something to do with their recruitment maybe? Can’t really say the same for OL and DE I don’t think.
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Clemson Icon [27628]
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But, here is the problem with that.
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:57 PM
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Dabo has outlined it in the past.
You can sign a kid in December. He can enroll in January and go through Spring practice. Then he can enter the portal in April.
If the WRs are coming to Clemson because of Grisham, they can still leave in April.
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Yeah and Dabo wouldn't try to trick players with something like that anyways***
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:09 PM
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Re: Dont tell me Grisham is staying
Nov 30, 2023, 4:48 PM
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Keep in mind Grisham is also our Recruiting Coordinator.
I've never understood that.
But I do believe honest/open changes sooner than later are best for the program and our Athletes.
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Dynasty Maker [3376]
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Re: Dont tell me Grisham is staying
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:13 PM
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You can get away with a lesser coach at WR if you recruit well enough. You need a better coach to develop guys in the trenches.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:35 PM
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So Grisham is a keeper?
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 3:02 PM
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I’ll tell y’all why Grisham is going to stay. He stays because Dabo knows exactly why the WR position isn’t what it used to be and that’s TALENT. WR position is probably the easiest position to coach. It just requires talent. And since recruiting isn’t all on Grisham he probably isn’t blaming him for the poor acquisitions. Dabo has got to figure out how to attract those elite players again. Got a couple decent ones coming in but need to be more consistent.
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Game Changer [1685]
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
Nov 30, 2023, 4:50 PM
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Jcantrell86® Not to pick bones, but Grisham LITERALLY is the recruiting coordinator for the whole team. So...hard to understand why the chef is cooking spam and not steaks.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 7:04 PM
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Not going to get high end WR talent without a high end QB. We’ve been blessed by the guys that Deshaun and Trevor attracted. They set a high bar that’s going to be tough to reach every year.
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Letterman [189]
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
Dec 1, 2023, 4:46 PM
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Except we recruited Nuk and Watkins pre Trevor and Watson...
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How in the #### did Grisham skate?***
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:36 PM
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:36 PM
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I assume these will be the only two staff moves we make right? doubt we fire Grisham at this point
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National Champion [8094]
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:39 PM
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That’s what it sounds like unless he waits until after the bowl.
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Great statement from Hall.***
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:39 PM
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Re: Great statement from Hall.***
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:49 PM
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Maybe Hall initiated it?
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:40 PM
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Looks like the 1% had incredible insight to what needed to happen. Let’s get the friends and family plan in the rear view! Bring on fresh blood! Bring on proven commodities and let’s get back to dominating! I am sad these guys lost their jobs. I am happy Dabo knows when a failed experiment has ended. Let’s gooooo! Rebuild time!
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:47 PM
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They’re 1.5%ers because they wouldn’t shut the #### up about the obvious and actually think they have any influence whatsoever over Dabo’s decision making. If he gave a #### what anyone thought, Grisham would have been the first out the door.
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Dynasty Maker [3265]
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Wrong ...
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Dec 1, 2023, 12:16 AM
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that's moving the goalposts. By and large, the overarching narrative on this has **not** been "you're right, but please be quiet about the obvious," but instead has been "quit acting like you know enough to criticize his hiring decisions." The fact is, they were right on the substance.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:08 PM
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lol right? How dare you tell me what to do when it's exactly what I'll later say needs to be done!
I love Dabo, but man, a bit hypocritical at times.
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Hall, but Grisham stays? ###?
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:41 PM
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Awful
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Re: Hall, but Grisham stays? ###?
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:46 PM
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Awful
Dabo has shown he is willing to make changes when needed so apparently, he believes Grish is the right coach for the job.
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Re: Hall, but Grisham stays? ###?
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:49 PM
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Grisham might just be through the bowl. With signing day coming up and him being the recruiting coordinator, this might not be a good time. I'm sure they've had discussions though.
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How does Grisham survive?***
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:44 PM
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Paw Warrior [4738]
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 1:51 PM
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My thoughts regarding Grisham is just that Swinney might be waiting until the guy he wants is available, which could be after bowl season depending on who he might want.
Otherwise, I’d assume Streeter is getting the benefit of the doubt for one more year with Wesco & Moore,
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:07 PM
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Wishing them good luck! If Dabo wants another ACC conference championship, these. are the hard decisions that have to be made. Look for Clemson football GREATNESS to return real soon! We fans stand behind you Dabo 100%!
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I don't understand Lemanski getting let go
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:10 PM
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He has done a great job with the DEs. Glad to see us moving on from TA though.
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Re: I don't understand Lemanski getting let go
Nov 30, 2023, 4:56 PM
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Coach Hall did a great job, down year. But keep in mind nothing indicates he was 'let go'. He may have an opening elsewhere and both parties are being professional in their mouth speak.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:13 PM
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the way this article reads makes me think Hall was a part of the decision, and Austin was not. Jus spekulatin here
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Orange Phenom [14692]
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:53 PM
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Same here but as you say, just speculation.
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Dabo on one this morning***
Nov 30, 2023, 2:14 PM
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Hire MacLain, surely the money from coaching at Clemson is much
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:30 PM
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more than tv sports broadcasting?
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Re: Hire MacLain, surely the money from coaching at Clemson is much
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Nov 30, 2023, 3:04 PM
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Why not hire a REAL proven O line coach? I love Mac but I've had enough of hiring ex players.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Re: Hire MacLain, surely the money from coaching at Clemson is much
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Nov 30, 2023, 5:58 PM
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Yes by all means get an offensive line coach, preferably one with NFL experience, or at least proven in college football ranks. Enough with the ex-player experiments. It is NOT working.
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Class act by Coach Hall***
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Nov 30, 2023, 2:30 PM
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Game Changer [1990]
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Re: TNET: Grisham may be
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Nov 30, 2023, 3:39 PM
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in the principal's office now or by tomorrow at the latest.
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Re: TNET: Grisham may be
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Nov 30, 2023, 3:51 PM
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Austin had no comments posted so I'm guessing he was maybe not expecting it or disagreed or both.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
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Nov 30, 2023, 4:02 PM
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I believe Jeff is still getting paid from South Florida, so he won’t come in until after he gets paid to take the job!
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I see the problem here is the QB
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Nov 30, 2023, 7:43 PM
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I like Cade, but we need a superstar to attract the offensive studs. Who’s coming in at QB? Other top pprograms get QB stud afterQB stud. Why can’t we?
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney announces staff changes
Nov 30, 2023, 4:54 PM
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I'm actually surprised about Lemenski Hall leaving. He did well with our D-line, though there's no question that Austin was on the hot seat. Though I guess with Hall, he did have X, Henry, and all these other studs and we simply didn't have the dominating sacks we had in the past, but it is what it is. Either way, let's get some hungry linemen on both sides of the ball to coach and to play.
As for Tyler, I doubt Dabo wants to see him leave just yet with him being a huge part of our recruitment and we NEED Westco coming in. Anything that leaves doubt there has got to be taken with caution. But no doubt Grisham's seat is hot for next season.
Let's get the big hires! Anyone call Dino yet?
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