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Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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And saying Donald Trump is one tough SOB was surreal
DNC sold out to liberal corporate elites and are about to pay the piper
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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Jul 16, 2024, 12:33 AM
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Yeh that was a strong point but the dude was getting really long-winded and I was thinking he should quit while he was ahead before he wore out his welcome.
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
Jul 16, 2024, 7:33 AM
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Explain
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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Jul 16, 2024, 7:55 AM
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Sean O'Brien, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, gave Monday's keynote speech at the Republican National Convention.
The Teamsters are the largest non-teacher union in the US.
He was the first Teamsters Boss in the organization's 121-year history to address the Republican convention.
Said Democrats have sold out to large corporations and the liberal elites that run them. Said Donald Trump is one tough SOB that will stand up and fight for the American worker.
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
Jul 16, 2024, 8:14 AM
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I was hoping you could explain to us how the DNC has sold out to large corporations and the liberal elites that run them.
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Ask the union guy whos been in the democrats pocket for a century.
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Jul 16, 2024, 8:19 AM
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He's the one that said it.
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Re: Ask the union guy whos been in the democrats pocket for a century.
Jul 16, 2024, 8:20 AM
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What does Elon Musk have to say about Biden and the labor unions?
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Re: Ask the union guy whos been in the democrats pocket for a century.
Jul 16, 2024, 8:24 AM
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What does Kamala have to say about Christmas and Christmas presents?
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Re: Ask the union guy whos been in the democrats pocket for a century.
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Too funny. I pushed your chit in. Narrative destroyed.😆
#pwned
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Re: Ask the union guy whos been in the democrats pocket for a century.
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Jul 16, 2024, 9:12 AM
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Elon Musk said he's giving $45 million/month to the Trump campaign
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You dont understand the nuance and thats fine
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Jul 16, 2024, 10:08 AM
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Because it’s not lost on the workers in this nation
The NEA (teachers Union) and the AFSCME (federal and state employees Union) now control the Democratic Party.
As manufacturing was off shored and as the UAW and Teamsters ranks shrunk, they lost their influence.
Today the NEA and the AFSCME are the #1 and #3 largest unions in the US. (Service workers Union is #2)
This has enabled an environment where large corporate interests have teamed up with teachers and government employ unions whose interests are not necessarily mutually exclusive and conspired to screw the manufacturing worker and the influence of the labor unions that represent them. Why? For the power - what else?
To miss this point is to completely misunderstand how politics in Washington DC works.
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Re: You dont understand the nuance and thats fine
Jul 16, 2024, 10:18 AM
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Cool story Bro. Back to your claim in the OP
You - "DNC sold out to liberal corporate elites"
EMusk - "The general public is not aware of the degree to which unions control the Democratic Party"
Which one of you is FOS? 😆
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Its both
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Jul 16, 2024, 10:26 AM
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Can you not read?
The Teachers Union and large corporations run this country through the democrats today
They have mutual political interests that align and they have taken control over this country on the back of the American manufacturing worker
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Re: Its both
Jul 16, 2024, 10:33 AM
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YES, I can read. Back to YOUR OP which you are trying to moonwalk away from.
You - "DNC sold out to liberal corporate elites"
EMusk - "The general public is not aware of the degree to which unions control the Democratic Party"
Which one of you is FOS? 😆
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^^^ This LP has a scratch and is playing on a loop ^^^***
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The Republican talking point these days is to vilify corporations.
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Jul 16, 2024, 10:37 AM
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Republicans used to be about big business, but now they talk about how evil big businesses are. It's weird.
It's like they are pro business if it's a small business, and are even for corporate tax breaks in some instances, but at some point when businesses become too big they are against them.
It seems that they are against corporations who have liberal owners/CEOs. They get docked extra points if they are located in California.
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...and with reason.***
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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Jul 16, 2024, 9:13 AM
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I'm laughing so hard at your epic fail. All you could come up with in your googling efforts was a Bernie Sanders claim from 4 years ago which has NOTHING to do with what I asked. I suspected you were talking outta your @$$, and I was correct. You tried 😆
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The original post was about the Teamsters president
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Jul 16, 2024, 10:29 AM
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Speaking at the RNC for the first time in 121 years
And you don’t have an answer for why
Answer the question - why is the teamster president the keynote speaker for the RNC?
Is it because he is some dupe or rube?
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Hes correct
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Jul 16, 2024, 12:45 PM
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And I said so
You aren’t even curious as to what unions and how the union landscape has changed in the last 25-50 years
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Re: Hes correct
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Jul 16, 2024, 1:20 PM
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I'm LOLing at your Hail Mary attempt to save face from this beatdown by trying to claim that labor unions are the "liberal corporate elites". You tried. 😆
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He's not what you're beating.***
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Re: At least Biden can claim he forgot about the assassination attempt
Jul 16, 2024, 1:31 PM
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You're getting pissy because I've spun you around to the point that you're claiming that Unions are pissed because Biden is under Union control. 😆
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You are a legend in your own mind
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Jul 16, 2024, 2:19 PM
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If you want to paint unions in a broad brush, fine
Biden is under the control of certain Unions
You know, the ones he coddles and cares for - the teachers and the federal / state employees unions.
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Re: You are a legend in your own mind
Jul 16, 2024, 3:11 PM
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Seriously, you're trying to argue that Unions are the "liberal corporate elites", and that they are upset that they have so much control over Biden/dems.
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I cant help it if your too dumb to understand
Jul 16, 2024, 3:58 PM
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carry on
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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Jul 16, 2024, 7:36 AM
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What is teamsters?
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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Jul 16, 2024, 7:57 AM
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The Teamsters are the largest non-teacher union in the US with over 1.3million members.
One example the guy gave is they are the Union that UPS workers all belong to.
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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Jul 16, 2024, 8:13 AM
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Ah, ok. Thanks.
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Re: Teamsters President addressing Republican Convention
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Jul 16, 2024, 7:56 AM
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Wonder if they'll put their money where their mouth is or if they will keep funding Democrats 100% like usual.
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So now we support out-of-touch unions?...
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Jul 16, 2024, 8:32 AM
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MAGA continues to remake the GOP...based on whatever they think will get them votes today. Principles and long-term consequences be ######.
Bring on more protectionism and then we'll all wonder where the inflation keeps coming from!
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Re: So now we support out-of-touch unions?...
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MAGA continues to remake the GOP...based on whatever they think will get them votes today. Principles and long-term consequences be ######.
Bring on more protectionism and then we'll all wonder where the inflation keeps coming from!
Try again.
Inflation 2016 - 2.1%
Inflation 2017 - 2.3%
Inflation 2018 - 1.9%
Inflation 2019 - 1.81%
Inflation 2020 - 1.23%
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Re: So now we support out-of-touch unions?...
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What's the root cause of the current inflation?
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Ha! Ill take easy questions that liberals cant answer for $500 Alex
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Jul 16, 2024, 9:22 AM
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You guys have no freaking clue
Biden’s inability to answer for inflation is the single biggest reason he will lose
I love reading your explanations. It’s like watching a fat man roll around on a sheet of ice
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Re: Ha! Ill take easy questions that liberals cant answer for $500 Alex
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Jul 16, 2024, 9:32 AM
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2nd request. What's the root cause of the global inflation? You won't answer this cause it hurts your narrative. You tried. 😆
Your OP is now a pile of smoldering ash. Congrats 👏
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Weve hashed this out a 100 times
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Jul 16, 2024, 9:56 AM
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At this point I’ll just point to Biden’s record on inflation
Inflation was less than 2% when he took office post pandemic
After all the hard work he did passing all his “historic landmark legislations” this country proceeded to experience the highest inflation since Jimmy Carter
Basic goods cost 30%-40% more than they did 3.5 years ago
Own it and proud of it
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Biden didn't take office post pandemic.
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Jul 16, 2024, 10:34 AM
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We were in the middle of the pandemic when he took office. It impacted the first part of his presidency in significant ways.
I don't care for the job Biden has done, but this notion by some Republicans (including Trump) that Biden was handed this great economy that he somehow ruined is ridiculous. A global pandemic would've messed up Trump's economy significantly as well (and had already started to, thanks to Trump's illogical support of shutdowns).
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Re: Weve hashed this out a 100 times
Jul 16, 2024, 10:37 AM
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As expected, you won't say what the root cause of the inflation is cause it destroys your narrative. 😆
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In your opinion, how did Biden's actions drive the inflation that....
Jul 16, 2024, 10:45 PM
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Happened in other developed countries?
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Re: Ha! Ill take easy questions that liberals cant answer for $500 Alex
Jul 17, 2024, 7:57 PM
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Why did your question change from ‘what causes inflation’ (something over which the WH has genuine influence) to ‘whaypt causes global inflation’?
It’s almost as if you recognized that your first ‘wear out / bore to death’ your opponent was too easy to defeat. Then, to escape another embarrassing argumentative defeat, you expanded (also made less relevant to the thread) your question as if that is what your ‘debate opponent’ had been focused the entire time.
OK, I’m done. Please give me the courtesy of a reply by posting of a funny gif.
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Re: Ha! Ill take easy questions that liberals cant answer for $500 Alex
Jul 17, 2024, 8:17 PM
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So you're not gonna answer as to the cause if the inflation? 😆 🤣 😂
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Its failed promises from the left that opened the door
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Jul 16, 2024, 9:13 AM
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If Democrats fought to keep manufacturing jobs in the US, there would be no opening here
If Democrats had protected US workers by refusing to allow millions of illegal immigrants in and bid down otherwise good paying jobs, there wouldn’t be a shift
If democrats valued rewarding hard work over free handouts, average working Joe’s wouldn’t be abandoning them
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Trump before the 2016 election- if Im elected you
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won’t lose one plant, I promise you that.”
From 2016 to 2018 (before Covid) 1,800 factories shut down.
He also couldn’t even get an infrastructure bill passed. Tell us more about failed promises.
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They absolutely do, and so do Republicans.
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Have you seen the fact checking from Trump's last debate as well as night one of the RNC?
Yikes.
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From that little prick on CNN...? Please.***
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Opened the door? Do we want the door open?....
Jul 16, 2024, 10:43 PM
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The point here is that conservatives generally don't support overly aggressive unions. The Teamsters give the unions there stereotype!
So I'll ask again...why would the GOP invite the President of the Teamsters to be the keynote speaker on opening night and allow him to bash business. Do any Trump supporters agree with what he said about chamber of commerces? Did anyone actually listen to his speech?
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Re: Opened the door? Do we want the door open?....
Jul 16, 2024, 11:15 PM
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RNC invited Teamster Union boss to speak during the convention to, hold onto your chair, hear what he had to say.
Teamsters are likely to not endorse the Democrat nominee for president. Been a LOOOONGGG time since Teamsters did not endorse a Democrat candidate for president.
Hearing what the guy had to say, which included his perspectives about the views of his members, has got to be of interest to the RNC.
The RNC has shown that the non-RINO Republican Party is happy to give daylight to diverse groups. Muslims got a big piece of priority time, for example.
This agenda by the Trump led RNC must be frustrating to Democrats and RINOs that had blasted the Trump / Hitler tropes since 2015. This RNC convention is confounding to the TDS’ers.
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Re: Opened the door? Do we want the door open?....
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The Teamsters leadership may not ever endorse Republicans but you can bet a large percentage of their members vote for them. I'd guess that's why they were invited, along with the big tent theme they are obviously pushing. This is a stark contrast to the left which has a dozen different purity tests somebody has to swear allegiance to before being allowed anywhere near their convention.
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The RNC knew what he had to say...
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Jul 17, 2024, 8:54 AM
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do you mean so GOP members could hear what he had to say? Is that point of convention speakers? Seems like that would be better suited for platform discussion groups and policy discussion groups. The Keynote speaker should be someone that reflects the party's thinking and someone that can make impact with the voters.
If you say you agree in general with the Teamsters dang sure don't claim to be a conservative! Further proof that YOU and your ilk may be the actual RINOs! You don't have a friggin clue as to what you're talking about.
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Re: The RNC knew what he had to say...
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I never claimed to be a ‘conservative’ in the hijacked definition of that term as used to describe Republicans of the Bush family.
I consider ‘conservative’ in the political context as meaning a governing philosophy closely guided by the Constitution, as opposed to a governing philosophy that changes according to the vagaries of emotional topics and the special interests of the wealthy elite.
So, based on how most RINOs and Democrats define ‘conservative,’ I am not a conservative.
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In other words....you don't know what it means to be conservative...
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and it has nothing to do with the Bush family.
Some key points on what conservatism stands for:
Limited federal government power - strict Constitutional interpretation
Rule of law
Traditionalism
Individualism
Free-market economics
Free-trade
republicanism (small r)
Generally anti-communist/labor unions
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Hes bashing big business and large corporations
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Jul 16, 2024, 11:38 PM
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These are the folks offshoring American jobs to sweat shops in China and Vietnam at the expense of American workers and American manufacturing jobs
They fight free trade / fair trade and tariffs tooth and nail
So when Biden argues against tariffs and against fair trade, he’s inviting an alliance between unions and the Republican Party.
For the life of me, I cannot understand Biden’s insistence on fighting trump on the tariffs. It’s an unforced error and it’s just dumb.
Admit trump was right, double down on it, and show the UAW and Teamsters you are going to keep jobs in the USA.
I feel like this is one of those issues where they let the hate for trump cloud their hood political judgement.
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How does one fight free trade and tariffs?...
Jul 17, 2024, 8:48 AM
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You know they are opposites of each other, right?
Trump started a trade war with China...the final equilibrium is US consumers paying 25% more on goods from China and x% more for goods that contain components from China...and China having in-kind tariffs on imports from the US.
It's a major contribution to inflation here and had a very small net change on US manufacturing (meaning about the same number of jobs were lost as gained).
And saying big business and large corps are evil and all offshore jobs shows a certain level of ignorance and historically would have fit you nicely as a liberal Democrat.
Sure some jobs get off-shored, but a lot/most don't. And the fix certainly isn't a protectionist stance when the global economy is more intertwined than ever and I'm the midst of a labor shortage.
In other words...YOU may be the RINO!
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