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Brad Brownell has NEVER had a program identity
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Brad Brownell has NEVER had a program identity

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Apr 1, 2025, 6:52 AM
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And now that we are in this s$!| hole with our roster, has no way out. There’s no “winning culture” to recruit from, there’s no championship pedigree, there’s no core team promoters to serve as examples for other recruits, there’s no player development (ie Paw Journey) that appeals to players or families…..there is NO substance to sell. Hopefully he’s got some nil money to use to attract players but it feels like we have no CLEMSON program with a CLEMSON IDENTITY.

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Apr 1, 2025, 7:01 AM
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Yes he does

Haven't you heard of Clemson Grit?

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GRIT - Go Run Into Theportal ?***

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Apr 1, 2025, 7:37 AM
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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


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Apr 1, 2025, 8:11 AM
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Now that’s funny! Made me laugh. Well done!

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Apr 1, 2025, 8:15 AM [ in reply to GRIT - Go Run Into Theportal ?*** ]
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Totally inappropriate. But I lol'd and upvoted anyways.

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This should have won POTD.***

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:53 AM [ in reply to GRIT - Go Run Into Theportal ?*** ]
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Getting Routed In Tournaments?***

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:31 AM [ in reply to Re: Brad Brownell has NEVER had a program identity ]
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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


That is an opinion.

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Apr 1, 2025, 7:20 AM
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That’s for sure.

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This should be interesting. I have popcorn for anyone that needs some.***

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Re: Brad Brownell has NEVER had a program identity

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Apr 1, 2025, 7:41 AM
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I don't think there is a problem with the roster. It's an opportunity and not a crisis at all. It's part of college basketball now and we are in a good situation. Let's see who we get and see where we stand.

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I think the question goes to a deeper level. I agree that it is not a crisis.

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Apr 1, 2025, 7:55 AM
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However, in a competitive market, what differentiates Clemson from say Tennessee or LSU? What are the intrinsic qualities of a program that set it apart from competitors? Or, is it simply the prize goes to the highest bidder? In that case instead of visits, portal players should just put out a bid deadline. He or she packs up and heads off to the highest bidder.

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Apr 1, 2025, 8:00 AM
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I agree that it will be interesting to see how competitive we are. That's the only issue. We need a a lot of course, but I think whoever we get will be as good as those who transfered, so there is that. Hopefully, they are upgrades though. I suspect they will be.

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:41 AM
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Was Heidbreder an upgrade over a Josh Beadle with another year of growth and development here under his belt? Was Myles Foster an upgrade over the in and out Jack Clark, or Godfrey? Reeves is gone now - is that a miss?

Honestly, we're batting right at .500 in the portal since instant eligibility came about. It is better than the .250 Brad hits with HS recruits, but now we are in a position of needing significant volume and production from the portal, and just in time for the biggest Sellers market the sport has seen there. Other than that we have a roster full of kids with negligible seasoned program leadership. Yeah - it's an opportunity all right. When you have a blank slate you're looking at and no other options - it can't help but be.

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Apr 1, 2025, 10:19 AM
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Well if they are equal there will be nothing to complain about. We have way better young players too. That said, I think we will do well in the portal.

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Apr 1, 2025, 12:09 PM
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Way better young players? Del Jones, our best of them, just left. What on earth leads you to believe Brad will suddenly start getting production from them, and/or keep them? Is this a new characteristic he will be employing here?

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Apr 1, 2025, 8:03 AM [ in reply to I think the question goes to a deeper level. I agree that it is not a crisis. ]
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Rev, those robes are so dope. I’m singing the special soon at my home church. I haven’t sang in public (besides the choir) since the 90’s when I was in a secular band. I’m doing my version of an oldie called “The Sun’s Coming Up” and I’m a little nervous. Say a prayer for me!


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You got it. I'll make a note to pray for you that day if you let me know when.***


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Well what separates us from UT is a very good coach.

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:31 AM [ in reply to I think the question goes to a deeper level. I agree that it is not a crisis. ]
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Apr 1, 2025, 10:07 AM [ in reply to Re: Brad Brownell has NEVER had a program identity ]
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We are in a good situation? I like your optimism. There are many who have been wearing rose colored glasses for 15 years. Please don’t take your glasses off as you may faint.

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Apr 1, 2025, 7:43 AM
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Well. You aren’t wrong. This, however, isn’t a Clemson phenomenon. It’s happening so much that a large chunk of D1 teams have applied to drop to D3! I always thought over 300 D1 basketball teams was a bit much. We’re basically losing quad four to d3. Thanks NIL!

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


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Apr 1, 2025, 8:38 AM
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Stoic wallflower

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Apr 1, 2025, 8:48 AM [ in reply to Re: Brad Brownell has NEVER had a program identity ]
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Respectfully, JK - what would be your description of the Brad Brownell era Clemson Basketball identity?

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:13 AM
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Underachieving. Failure to earn top 25 (twice in 30+ yers) ranking at seasons end. Losing to far inferior teams in post season play. Mostly missing post season play. No conference championships. Extreme losing record in post season play. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Failure to use strategic timeouts to stop the bleeding. I could go on and on.

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How dare you say such things...

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Apr 1, 2025, 12:02 PM
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about a coach who a certain member of the lunatic cult describes as "one of the best in the business" (rolling eyes).

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


So rather than just an inane, senseless, and insipid response...

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:50 AM [ in reply to Re: Brad Brownell has NEVER had a program identity ]
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why not provide your own explanation of Clemson's basketball identity under Brad Brownell?

Could it be because you know there really hasn't been one and the poster is correct?





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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


So bad post season success isn't an identity?

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:33 AM
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THIS is 100 percent an accurate identity of culture. It is BY FAR the


Apr 1, 2025, 9:55 AM
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most consistent element of the Clemson Basketball culture under our current head coach.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Whoever TD this - please dispute with specifics what the OP has said. There is

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Apr 1, 2025, 9:53 AM
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NOTHING created by Basketball leadership (starting with our head coach) that differentiates us in any shape, form, or fashion.

Nothing.


It needs to be something that can be articulated by every member of the staff and team.


Recently viewed specifics that other teams speak of:

Faith

Brotherhood - based on upbringing / commitment to the culture of the program. We don't have a culture, so there is no commitment

Restoration


What do we have ?

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


I quit donating this year due to the guys that own this site - who have every

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Apr 1, 2025, 12:05 PM
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right to do whatever they want to do with their site - allow a poster to run rampant over . . . .


Nevermind - it doesn't matter . . . .


No - I can't see who TD a post - and I'm good with that.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


I think the program has always resonated

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Apr 1, 2025, 11:37 AM
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with those for whom winning is not the main point.

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"I think we all realize that Dabo is an expert in his field." - J. Keller


Lies, lies, lies


Apr 1, 2025, 12:03 PM
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You obviously do not know basketball. Go back to sniffing football jocks. #clemsongrit

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