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Goodwin....change my mind
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Dec 8, 2024, 1:22 AM
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Good for 3 quarters but terrible in the 4th...i mean shoot me in the head bad. If he can figure it out he will be good for us for the long term.
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All-Conference [406]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 1:23 AM
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No.
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 1:28 AM
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That didn't change my mind. Not necessarily disagreeing with you just want hear your rational
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Asst Coach [875]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
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Dec 8, 2024, 1:25 AM
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he is hard to figure out.....his first half plan worked good.....looked prepared.......then the 4th quarter he seems to not "feel certain" situations big 3rd or 4th down plays when he should bring the house he just plays basic drop zone....its odd to watch.
dabo does do him in favors by going into a shell with the lead though
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I need Riley to have a complete 4 qtr gameplan.
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Dec 8, 2024, 1:27 AM
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We scored 10 in the second half and had what felt like 10 punts.
Just score 2 dern TDs and this game is over. And you help the defense out so much and lighten their load.
SMU is really good offensively. And when you have 42 second 3 and outs, it just stresses the d even more.
~JKB
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 1:27 AM
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he gone...
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Varsity [142]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
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Dec 8, 2024, 1:31 AM
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I don't disagree necessarily. He needs to grow a pair of balls and get after it. The sitting back and waiting isn't working at all. Defense looks totally different as the game goes on. That's my point.
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Orange Blooded [2237]
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No. Gave up 150+ on the ground tonight, after giving up
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Dec 8, 2024, 1:33 AM
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over 500 on the ground last two weeks combined. Over our last little stretch, 13 points to Pitt one there last the possessions, 10 to the ##### on there last 2, and 17 tonight on SMU's last three of four. That is not championship defense.
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Re: No. Gave up 150+ on the ground tonight, after giving up
Dec 8, 2024, 1:38 AM
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I'm not saying he's the answer bc our defense sucks in the 4th.... just stirring debate. There are times the defense is great and times it's like we game no idea what we are doing and it's usually in the 4th
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Orange Blooded [2237]
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Don't know how to explain it but even when they're
Dec 8, 2024, 1:45 AM
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playing well, I just don't get that "dominating vibe" from them. I feel like when they are playing well the other team makes adjustments, and Wes has no counter.
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Commissioner [1299]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
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Dec 8, 2024, 1:51 AM
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He’s good at crafting an original gameplan.
It’s the adjustments that he has issues with.
He’s not the best at adjusting defensive scheme to what the offense has started doing to counteract what we’re trying to run on offense.
Clemson has been out-schemed in the 2nd half by opposing offensives/teams in just about every game this year. It’s pretty abundantly clear.
UGA game - Defense was solid first half, fell apart in the 2nd.
Louisville - couldn’t get the stop when needed coming out of halftime.
South Carolina - argument could be made he made negative adjustments with taking Brown out of the gameplan in the second half.
SMU - almost blew a 3 score lead.
I like Wes, but he’s not the answer.
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Solid Orange [1325]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
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Dec 8, 2024, 2:01 AM
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More like adequate for a half. He gets his big behind handed to him in the 2nd half consistently.
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Game Changer [1711]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 3:04 AM
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More like adequate for a half. He gets his big behind handed to him in the 2nd half consistently.
Wes needs to go. I doubt any other Power 5 conference would hire him as DC. Venables wanted him, so let him have Wes.
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Orange Blooded [2496]
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He is much better when his defensive players
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Dec 8, 2024, 2:02 AM
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Aren't gassed because the offense is getting nothing but 3 and out. Also we aren't getting a great pass rush consistently. TJ Parker can only do so much.
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Orange Blooded [2496]
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He is much better when his defensive players
Dec 8, 2024, 2:02 AM
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Aren't gassed because the offense is getting nothing but 3 and out. Also we aren't getting a great pass rush consistently. TJ Parker can only do so much.
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Re: He is much better when his defensive players
Dec 8, 2024, 3:20 AM
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17 point lead in the 4th quarter. 3 man rush at the end of the game. The Citadel having its most rushing yards of any game all year against us. Enough with the excuses…he isn’t the answer.
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Orange Beast [6587]
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Up 17 in the 4th Q
Dec 8, 2024, 3:23 AM
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He went conservative as it should be
Can't get pass rush when the DL is exhausted
Go Tigers
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Orange Blooded [2117]
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Re: Up 17 in the 4th Q
Dec 8, 2024, 6:41 AM
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Wes was, is, and never will be who we need as DC. Period.
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Hall of Famer [8115]
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Re: Up 17 in the 4th Q
Dec 8, 2024, 9:18 AM
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Me and rank 57th in total defense unacceptable for a Clemson defense. No matter what the offense is doing
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Game Day Hero [4598]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 9:23 AM
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He seems to be 1/2 of a great defensive coordinator. His guys always deliver for half a game.
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1st Rounder [626]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 9:27 AM
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Hear you. I think one of the problems is we are not as deep as we once were. Hard to sub and rest them and we kind of fade a bit. Great win by all tho! What an ending.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 9:42 AM
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Well to be fair, the offense stalls in the 3rd and 4th so his defense is out there a LOT in the 2nd half.
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Orange Beast [6135]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 9:46 AM
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We can seem to run the ball almost at all, however, we get the ball pounded on us weekly. You can’t win consistently if you can’t stop the run.
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Tiger Cub [11]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 10:04 AM
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Wes…. Still basically a new coordinator. So the question in my mind is - is he improving in those decisions/can he improve in those decisions.
I remember some early Dabo decisions in year one and two that were also head scratchers. Dabo though learned, fast, and the question I have is can that be the case with Wes?
As we, and other programs, have proven going out to make a hire comes with lots of risks.
Can and will Wes develop into someone who make those in game adjustments and personnel
Decisions.
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Game Day Hero [4516]
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Re: Goodwin....change my mind
Dec 8, 2024, 10:11 AM
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Fundamentals are getting worse. Players are making plays using individual effort masking a bad scheme. Also alpt of stops are opponent induced like dropped passes or tripped players, better lucky than good i guess.
Fundamentals: Tackling, pursuit angles, containment, assignment football on options.
Venables recruited players are almost completely gone i don't want to see how bad the fundamentals will get. Plus the lack of intensity on defense and players out of position. You also already alluded to the fact that he has bad situational awareness, like being 7-8 yards off the ball on 3rd and 4 religiously.
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