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TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 8:53 PM
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If he doesnt make changes those alcohol
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Sales could be worth millions!!!
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 8:55 PM
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You BETTER be worried about that stuff.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 22, 2024, 7:36 AM
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Why? What are you gonna do if He is not?
Of course He is worried about it.
Far more than you.
But what kind of stupid reporter asked that question at that time and expects anything other than the answer they got?
And it was the correct answer!
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Find someone in Kirby Smarts coaching tree for DC***
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Dec 21, 2024, 8:56 PM
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Will Muschamp is available.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:06 PM
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Just kidding, folks. Just kidding.
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Re: Will Muschamp is available.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:12 PM
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POTD ^^^
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Re: Will Muschamp is available.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:18 PM
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Last time we hired a former HC of theirs, the coach’s kid won two titles at Clemson
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Re: Will Muschamp is available.
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Dec 21, 2024, 11:30 PM
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What ?? You're saying Dabo's dad was head coach of SCar? I'm so confused.
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Re: Will Muschamp is available.
Dec 22, 2024, 1:04 PM
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I’m referring to Brad and Jeff Scott
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Re: Will Muschamp is available.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:21 PM
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I’d take Will over Pork Chop any day.
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Re: Will Muschamp is available.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:29 PM
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Would take Muschamp in a heartbeat, especially over what’s there now
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Good non-answer.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:05 PM
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I didn't expect him to say, "Yeah, we've got to get better as coaches or we've got to get better coaches."
The whole tone of his presser was about how big a hole they were in a half time and it was clear he was blaming the D for that hole.
I'm not in the coaches' room or meetings. I don't know how much of the blame Dabo places on the lack of talent of the players, the youth of the players, the injuries or the coaches. That's his job to figure it out.
But, I am struck by these two thoughts:
1. It would not surprise me if there was a different DC in the next 30 days.
2. TX ran the ball amazingly well. How much blame does Eason deserve for that? Why does he seem to be getting a pass? His title includes "defensive run game coordinator." Just wondering.
I have no idea what the solution is. But, that's not my job. That's Dabo's.
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Im with you Bret. Big fan of Nick as a guy but have not been impressed with his
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:15 PM
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coaching. Too many technical issues. I wasn’t too big on his hire honestly. He want great at Auburn either. It’s not personal - he’s a great Tiger - but we have too many dudes on that line to get embarrassed like that.
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Re: Good non-answer.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:19 PM
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Yes This!! A friend and I were saying this sane thing during tbe game. Several plays we had everything called right, but Eason's guy couldn't tackle or got whipped. That's on Eason!!
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Re: Good non-answer.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:27 PM
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My two cents.... We lost several db prospects, probably because of nil. We haven't landed the plethora of top defensive prospects recently. There was a point where we landed the top, or top 10, player each year. If revenue sharing happens, we should land more of these prospects.
Defense was horrible for the amount of talent we have. Woods is out of position repeatedly. So are the lb's. They get hung up on blocks. I'm just stating the obvious. Dabo has changed coaches when it was time. He is notorious for giving coaches and players every opportunity to prove themselves, but he has made changes when necessary.
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Re: Good non-answer.
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:34 PM
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I agree Bret. The question had to be asked. I did like hearing him say we had to get better everywhere. We got a first round qb. We've got a great start to wide receivers. Our oline is miles better than last year, especially with the injuries and players we have.
We do have a new DE coach. We have a deep DL but imo, not an elite dline as most have preached on T-Net all year. Pwoo and Parker are elite but we've gotten beat all year not setting the edge. The only teams we played with a pulse, we were poor getting off blocks and being gap integrity. We were playing against an average qb today that we knew wasn't as mobile as DJ5. That's coaching.
Sammy's great but it's a problem when he has to be your leading tackler. Our safeties are meh.
As for running backs. Looks like we missed not moving Randall as our 2nd back.
A lot of us on T-Net begged Dabo to take a transfer edge rusher, linebacker, and cb last January to shore up experience. His direct quote was, we like who we have on our roster. ??.
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Re: Good non-answer.
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Dec 22, 2024, 10:42 AM
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Dabo was good with who we had personnel wise last year and I suspect that he will be good with the staff this year. Though I think that we could have improved the personnel last year, I do not think that is the major issue. We lack depth but the studs that we have, looked bad in a lot of situations this year.
Up until this year, I thought that Reed did not get near enough credit, but to me our DB's regressed from last year. I had questions with other defensive coaches, but I was cautiously optimistic and believe that the rest of the defense has regressed beyond position changes as well. Now, I am at the point that I may not be intelligent enough to know what the problem is, but I am observant enough to know that there is one. This defense was bad all season by our standards, and if you look at the guys on the field one by one it should not have been.
Whether it is one, some or all of the defensive coaches something needs to change. Dabo is loyal to a fault and many of the ones on here are just as loyal to Dabo. Tyler from Spartanburg was trashed nonstop, but Dabo has responded by doing some of the things that Tyler was outrageous to suggest. Dabo has earned the right to do what he wants, but if he does nothing like I fear, I believe that it will be a mistake.
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Re: Good non-answer.
Dec 22, 2024, 1:23 PM
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Great post CGA. I watched a lot of football this year, as I always do, and comparing the elite programs to ours there were a lot of things that popped out defensively. I was really disappointed that none of our linebackers, even Sammy at times, were unable to shed blocks. I like fast linebackers, but in addition to that they have to be strong enough to take on linemen and shed their blocks. The don't necessarily have to be able to overpower them line a D lineman, but their quickness and strength have to work together to get free and make plays. Yesterday's game was a textbook example of them not doing it. I think both Carter and Woodazz actually regressed this year ....... although I hate to say it. I think both have NFL talent, but not the way they played this year. Guessing they both will be late round of UDFAs.
Our D-line, particularly on the edge, but also in the middle was sorely lacking. Week after week I got tired of seeing mediocre and bad teams run wide on us. It was not only or DEs but also lack of support from our linebackers, corners and safeties. And finally, although our D backs played well at times, they seemed to regress as the year went on. The three holding calls on Terrell were all legitimate, even if the refs seemed to ignore the same handsy play for the Texas D backs, especially on Moore. Terrell was grabbing on just about every play.
All is all, I would say our poor defensive play was pretty much a team effort. I do not know the answer, but we have not found it yet.
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Re: Good non-answer.
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Dec 21, 2024, 10:12 PM
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I agree, Bret, especially with the last statement. It's Dabo's job. If we can see the problems, he certainly does. Please find us a real DC.
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You're right. He's not going to fire Wes at a presser.
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Dec 22, 2024, 8:04 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if he did fire Wes, though. It wasn't just Texas who gashed Clemson in the running game.
They are not going to win many championships with a 70th-ranked defense.
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Re: You're right. He's not going to fire Wes at a presser.
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Dec 22, 2024, 8:06 AM
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I think Wes is done... check that, I hope Wes is done.
CDS has fired people before, including long time friends. I have no doubt he will pull the trigger if he thinks its needed
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I mean I hate it for Wes and his family. But he's over his head at this point.
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Dec 22, 2024, 8:10 AM
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Hopefully, if he does get fired, he will keep learning and be a good DC one day.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:07 PM
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As expected a non-answer answer
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:07 PM
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Looks like Wes is here to stay
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People said the same thing about Brandon Streeter
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:11 PM
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and Riley was hired out of nowhere.
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Re: People said the same thing about Brandon Streeter
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Dec 22, 2024, 10:51 AM
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I expect that Dabo will ask around a little, but I am not sure that he finds someone touted as much as Riley was that would be interested. I think there were only 2 or 3 people that Dabo would have traded Streeter for. My guess is that none of the DC's that Dabo would be willing to trade for are available.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:19 PM
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Don’t put money on it donkey. Dabo isn’t going flat say he’ll fire someone in a frickin post game interview. Try using that tiny brain of yours just a bit.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:14 PM
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Dabo always has a list of coaches. He does a lot of networking. I believe this was coach speak for ... I need to get my head around this, but changes are coming. We have a lot of talent on dline, yet we were horrible vs the run. Texas beat us because they could run. I imagine Dabo's going to fix this
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Fix this? You mean like he has fixed things since 2020?
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:20 PM
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LOL
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Re: Fix this? You mean like he has fixed things since 2020?
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:30 PM
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Apparently, you haven't been paying attention. He has dipped into the portal, now. He replaced two d coaches and the o.c. I know you have this mad on for Dabo, but he's done far more than your man crush
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Wes needs to go
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:16 PM
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We've got the players. But the players aren't in position to make plays. It's chaos on D. Any good play feels like we had divine intervention. The experiment is over.
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Re: Wes needs to go
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:21 PM
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We don’t have enough of the right dudes and depth to win it all…
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Re: Wes needs to go
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Dec 21, 2024, 10:22 PM
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Agree completely. Don't have the dudes. And darn sure don't have the coaches to help the ones that are ballers.
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Which is also Wes's fault. Didn't Wes tell Dabo he didn't need portal players?
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Dec 22, 2024, 8:07 AM
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Let's not start eliminating roster management from the responsibility of position coaches. I know it's the pumper narrative, it was the same for Streeter, Austin, etc.
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Re: Which is also Wes's fault. Didn't Wes tell Dabo he didn't need portal players?
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Dec 22, 2024, 8:08 AM
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That's not Wes's fault. Our lack of reiterate talent is a lot bigger than Wes.
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He also coaches LBs which are a hot mess, including two future pros.
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Dec 22, 2024, 8:12 AM
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Lots of teams with less talent on defense are ranked way above 70, so stop with the BS.
Message was edited by: PACIFIC BEACH TIGER®
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Horse #### Dabo. I've always been one of your
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:25 PM
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Biggest supporters, but grow a #### set and say that changes need to be made.
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Re: Horse #### Dabo. I've always been one of your
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Dabo is a professional. He's not going to embarrass those men. He will have a private meeting. They will discuss the situation. He will analyze and have a plan.
It doesn't happen in front of people. That just doesn't happen...even when we get embarrassed by wvu.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:30 PM
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Where is Charlie Strong?
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:40 PM
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Hate to disagree with Dabo, but our defensive scheme sucks! Change’s need to be made!
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The D has issues that dont seem to be player quality but more so
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:42 PM
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Coaching quality. Wes seems to be an awesome DC assistant but not a DC of a (should be) fop 10 program. Something surely NEEDS TO CHANGE.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 9:51 PM
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He made a great change on the o line coaching. It’s time to do the same for the defensive side of the ball.
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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney on potential changes to defensive staff
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Dec 21, 2024, 10:50 PM
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Very Simple Wes Godwin IS Not Brent Venerables...And Until The "D" Coordinator Can
Build A Defense That's Just Stout...
This IS It🌞
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Dec 22, 2024, 2:14 PM
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If we were good running team we would know how to stop the run,got to be able run the ball and stop the run,if you are successful at running 90% of the time you gonna win,why because you are winning in the trenches
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I'm offering a little construtive advice to Dabo.
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Dec 22, 2024, 10:55 AM
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Buy some straight jacket and have someone, Crump® strap the loud mouthed Tnetters in.
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