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Good for the athlete.
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Jul 25, 2024, 7:23 AM
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There is no such thing as tampering.
It's merely recruiting the portal.
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Game Day Hero [4126]
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Re: Good for the athlete.
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Jul 25, 2024, 7:54 AM
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Multiple coaches have come out saying their players are being approached and those players were not in the portal. Tampering does exist. Once the player formally enters the portal all bets are off. Collectives, third party whatevers and anyone else approaching a non-portal player should fall under lack of institutional control for the program the "represent."
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Varsity [107]
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Nope.
Jul 25, 2024, 8:10 AM
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Collectives, boosters, and private NIL donors are not part of the universities.
Ergo, there is no institutional control possible.
Any effort to interfere with it is illegal under federal law. The NCAA acted as if their rules superceded the law. They got away with it for decades. Now the courts are fixing it. Good!
"The NCAA is not above the law".
SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh
NCAA vs Alston
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Clemson Conqueror [11491]
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Universities have always been accountable
Jul 25, 2024, 8:35 AM
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For what boosters do if it effects their program.
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Varsity [107]
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That was under the old, illegal NCAA rules.
Jul 25, 2024, 8:54 AM
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Ancient history, not pertinent.
To repeat..."NCAA vs Alston".
9-0 SCOTUS win for the athletes.
ANY 3rd party interference in NIL deals violates that decision, and the Sherman Antitrust Act.
Again, the NCAA,is not above the law.
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Hall of Famer [8285]
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The only way to "fix it" is to sign players to contracts like the NFL does.
Jul 25, 2024, 9:40 AM
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Then poaching or tampering does not exist outright.
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Varsity [107]
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That's not going to happen without making the athletes employees.
Jul 25, 2024, 10:00 AM
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That's the last thing the NCAA wants.
The consent agreement that the NCAA signed in the Ohio vs NCAA case prevents them from restricting transfers in any way.
The injunction in the Tennessee vs NCAA case prevents them from trying to regulate NIL or interfering with it.
That includes forcing contracts on athletes that they don't pay.
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Varsity [107]
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There is no such thing as tampering.
Jul 25, 2024, 10:13 AM
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It's "recruiting the portal".
The NCAA rule against recruiting people from other entities is illegal.
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Legend [6963]
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I guess the Stanford degree is not worth a million
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Jul 25, 2024, 8:24 AM
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dollars, at least not to this player
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Dynasty Maker [3523]
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May be good for the athlete, but is it good for the sport? If the sport can't or
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no longer exists, what is there for the athlete? There has to be some balance or everything is going to collapse on itself.
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Dynasty Maker [3523]
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May be good for the athlete, but is it good for the sport? If the sport can't or
Jul 25, 2024, 9:04 AM
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no longer exists, what is there for the athlete? There has to be some balance or everything is going to collapse on itself.
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Hall of Famer [8268]
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Re: Good for the athlete.
Jul 25, 2024, 10:42 AM
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Maybe not tampering, but certainly some fiscal tickling.
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If course college sports are continuing to exist as is.
Jul 25, 2024, 7:24 AM
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Your post proves it. Things are rolling along just like the past few years.
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Re: Stanford softball pitcher gets $1mil to transfer to Texas Tech.
Jul 25, 2024, 8:11 AM
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When I see things like this and it may be wrong but I'm being honest, I hope that she fails miserably at Texas Tech!!!
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Orange Phenom [14374]
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Re: Stanford softball pitcher gets $1mil to transfer to Texas Tech.
Jul 25, 2024, 8:17 AM
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This was strictly a money opportunity for her, which I can't blame her one bit (smart move), but she could have gone to Oklahoma if she wanted to win a Natty. TT record was only 29-21 last season and even with adding her, TT will likely not compete with Texas or Oklahoma. Although I guess they won't play unless its a tournament since both those schools are SEC now but you get my point.
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Orange Phenom [14374]
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Re: Stanford softball pitcher gets $1mil to transfer to Texas Tech.
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Jul 25, 2024, 8:22 AM
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That said, there are probably only 3-5 teams out of 250 D1 schools that could fathom paying this kind of money. And when one person gets a crazy $$Deal, that just hurts the rest of the sport as it raises expectations of payments to other players that will never see anything like it.
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Question I have is why? Why anyone would spend 1 mil on a softball
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Jul 25, 2024, 8:26 AM
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player. Who cares.
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There's an individual who REALLY likes TT softball and wants to see them
Jul 25, 2024, 10:05 AM
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do well. And they've got an extra $1 million. Probably a drop-in-the-bucket to him/her.
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110%er [3819]
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Re: There's an individual who REALLY likes TT softball and wants to see them
Jul 25, 2024, 12:23 PM
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Tax write off.
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Orange Blooded [2573]
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Re: Natty? No guarantee of that anywhere.
Jul 25, 2024, 9:52 AM
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If it makes you feel better, she will net quite a bit less. Her accountant will fill her in on the details.
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Varsity [107]
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It's still.lots more than she would have made at Stanford.
Jul 25, 2024, 10:02 AM
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#winning
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This is a really bizarre transfer
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Jul 25, 2024, 8:38 AM
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Texas Tech is definitely not a softball school and has had very little success in it. They usually don’t even male the tournament. Why they decided to suddenly drop over a million on a single softball player is odd.
Also Palo Alto to Lubbock gotta be one of the biggest culture shocks out there.
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Clemson Conqueror [11594]
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With NIL - there are a lot of folks involved with a lot of disposable income
Jul 25, 2024, 10:08 AM
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It's good for the kids - they are getting money from folks who obviously have too much money.
...bad for college athletics though.
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Campus Hero [13629]
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Jul 25, 2024, 8:48 AM
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Congrats to the student softball pitcher who is being paid $1Mil.
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Re: Stanford softball pitcher gets $1mil to transfer to Texas Tech.
Jul 25, 2024, 9:13 AM
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Makes you wonder what kind of offers Val got.
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Mercenary.***
Jul 25, 2024, 9:18 AM
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Hall of Famer [8285]
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If the going rate for a top softball pitcher is $1M, what is it for a top QB?***
Jul 25, 2024, 9:42 AM
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Orange Phenom [14374]
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Re: If the going rate for a top softball pitcher is $1M, what is it for a top QB?***
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Jul 25, 2024, 9:57 AM
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Shedur Sanders was paid $5.3mil in NIL last year. Pretty sure he was the highest paid. But there was that HS QB (forget name), that was offered $7mil by Miami, he committed but then a couple months later Florida offered him $13.1mil. He committed to Florida for couple months but decommitted after the Florida Collective couldn't pay the offer. The QG is now in a suit with Florida for the failed NIL offer. That QB is now somewhere like ASU or SDSU, somewhere over there missing both big offers.
So where is the market, I'm guessing between $1-5mil for top QB right now, educated guess.
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And, not even Texas. Texas TECH, for cripes sake. Money rules. Can't blame the
Jul 25, 2024, 10:46 AM
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athlete in this case, who is going to make a million bucks as a college softball player, normally?
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Re: Stanford softball pitcher gets $1mil to transfer to Texas Tech.
Jul 25, 2024, 10:49 AM
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That's about how much you'd have to pay me to trade a Stanford degree for one from Texas Tech. I don't blame her if she doesn't want to fly to the East Coast every other week to play ACC softball, though. Travel is going to be an issue for Stanford's recruiting, especially for the non-revenue athletes.
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Re: Stanford softball pitcher gets $1mil to transfer to Texas Tech.
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It's insane but if TT is stupid enough to do it she should do it in a second
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Good for her
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Jul 25, 2024, 12:43 PM
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Glad she is in the position to get paid for her skills.
With that said, this sort of stuff will lead to my caring less and less about college sports in general. It's just my opinion, but there is a reason I was never as big a pro sports fan. For 4 (or 3 at worst) years you got to see an athlete represent your school and grow. That part of college sports is rapidly going away.
Again, I get this should be legal and allowed and it's the right thing for athletes to be rewarded financially for bringing money into the program... but the effects as they are now are gonna eventually cause me to continue to lose interest.
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