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Tiger Cub [14]
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Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Is Dabo on the hot seat if we miss the (12 team) playoffs this year?
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Not even remotely***
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Coot Alert !***
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or just yet another JK scok. It's embarrassing.
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Re: Coot Alert !***
Dec 3, 2024, 6:36 AM
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I doubt very seriously they make the playoffs with us!
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Dabo has a hot seat.***
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Re: Dabo has a hot seat.***
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:48 PM
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I'm a older guy, I would be more interested in the temp of Dabo's Moms seat.
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Re: Dabo has a hot seat.***
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:41 PM
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Not nice, but funny.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:42 PM
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No.
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Tiger Spirit [9112]
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Why would he be? Please expand.***
Dec 2, 2024, 7:42 PM
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Why would he be? Please expand.***
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:45 PM
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I think he is getting pushed by the university to utilize the NIL and I don’t think he will comply to their standards. Missing the playoffs this year and not performing in the transfer portal could very easily land him in the hot seat next season.
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Dynasty Maker [3457]
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Re: Why would he be? Please expand.***
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:55 PM
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You are a 10 year old little Coot.
Leave!
Use the NIL.
Just leave.
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Tiger Spirit [9112]
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Thank you for answering.
Dec 2, 2024, 8:09 PM
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He does use the NIL. Have you not seen commercials with some players? I've been seeing people with players jerseys on, so im assuming the players are getting their NIL money. Not sure if the Paw Journey counts towards NIL, but it's a very beneficial asset for the athletes.
College football has changed almost overnight. Did Dabo win a championship his first year?
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Paw Master [17550]
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Re: Why would he be? Please expand.***
Dec 3, 2024, 8:36 AM
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He will have no option but to go after players in the portal if we can only get 12 to 15 guys in this recruiting cycle, this year and for years to come.
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Ring of Honor [21930]
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Im not one that believes Dabo should be anywhere near a hot seat but to play
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:53 PM
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Devils advocate
Last 4 seasons
39-13
5-7 vs Out of conference P5
7-6 vs opponents ranked at the time of game
2-2 vs the coots
1 ACC championship (so far)
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Tiger Spirit [9112]
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Can we agree that college football has changed very quickly
Dec 2, 2024, 8:19 PM
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the past few years with NIL and the new transfer rules?
You bring up "last 4 seasons." Did Dabo win a championship in his first 4 seasons?
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All-In [10336]
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Re: Can we agree that college football has changed very quickly
Dec 2, 2024, 8:22 PM
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Yes, he won an ACC Championship
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Tiger Spirit [9112]
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Year 4. NIL and TP started 2021.***
Dec 2, 2024, 8:25 PM
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Tiger Spirit [9112]
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Not sure you noticed, but, um,
Dec 2, 2024, 8:41 PM
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Clemson is playing for an ACCCG this year.
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Tiger Titan [47343]
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Is our goal to be one of the best teams in a weak conference?
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Dec 2, 2024, 9:03 PM
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Or is our goal to be one of the best teams in the country?
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Dynasty Maker [3457]
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Re: Is our goal to be one of the best teams in a weak conference?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:13 PM
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Your goal is to be contrary.. you reached your goal
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Yes, but our program trajectory these four years is worse.
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Dec 2, 2024, 9:29 PM
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It’s going the wrong way.
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National Champion [7936]
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and to your point, won one 2 years ago during the
Dec 2, 2024, 9:39 PM
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“NIL”. We have definitely dropped in talent and performance but we are gunning for our 2nd in 3 years.
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Tiger Titan [47343]
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Yes, but it has changed quickly for everyone.
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Dec 2, 2024, 9:02 PM
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Not just Dabo.
Our program was elite, and was thus one of the best positioned programs to pivot and adjust to new changes. Instead, we’ve been one of the slowest to change.
And it’s Dabo’s fault.
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Tiger Spirit [9112]
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Not when you don't have the money as a Texas or Ohio St team***
Dec 2, 2024, 9:28 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3457]
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Re: Yes, but it has changed quickly for everyone.
Dec 2, 2024, 9:46 PM
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You are not realistic at all. In the last 4 years how many teams have won a National Championship? 1? 2? 3? 4? Everyone is a bust by your standard for Dabo.
If you can’t look at Dabo’s record and see how good it is you will never be satisfied!
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Re: Yes, but it has changed quickly for everyone.
Dec 3, 2024, 1:15 AM
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UGA with two…
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Re: Im not one that believes Dabo should be anywhere near a hot seat but to play
Dec 2, 2024, 8:49 PM
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If we beat SMU and thus get into the CFP, do both not count because (1) the ACC no longer has a formal two division structure -and- (2) the playoffs got expanded to 12 teams?
Got to be ready to contrive new arguments to keep diminishing Dabo’s overall success at Clemson.
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Re: Why would he be? Please expand.***
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Why not at 11mm a year? This is the thinking that I don’t understand. If he and his ego can’t adapt he must go. Be great if he adapts. Why is this hard to understand. Or let it become a non p-4 school/ p-2 school and don’t spend the money.
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Re: Why would he be? Please expand.***
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:06 PM
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When Jim Harbaugh struggled he changed his
Compensation package to be more incentive based. Dabo could do that.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:43 PM
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This coot has been stirring the pot all day.
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 7:46 PM
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You think what you want, I’m just being realistic.
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Dynasty Maker [3338]
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Dabo has well surpassed anything any Clemson coach could do
Dec 2, 2024, 7:44 PM
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He names his quit date.
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Re: Dabo has well surpassed anything any Clemson coach could do
Dec 2, 2024, 8:02 PM
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And I would hope we are thinking about the next step on his quit day now as the game moves away from him.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:44 PM
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Let’s put it this way. Dabo will be at Clemson when Beamer is no longer at SC
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:47 PM
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Is that a good thing for us in the long run? I mean, honestly.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:51 PM
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What you mean us, coot
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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“Us” depends upon your frame of reference.
It would be a good thing for Clemson (if Dabo stays) and a bad thing for S.Carolina (if Beamer leaves).
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Dynasty Maker [3482]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dabo is not, and won't be on any hot seat after the ACC Champ game, regardless of the outcome. Dabo is here until his youngest graduates and then he will have his Nick Saban/Tony Bennet moment.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Nick Saban moment might be a little bit of a stretch, again, just being realistic.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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To a S.Carolina fan, the ability to comprehend two National Championships might be much more than “a stretch.”
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Gridiron Giant [15293]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 7:48 PM
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Tough wimmens chicken loss to UCLA got you addled?
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Gonna need you to translate that one, bossman.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:39 PM
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Let me translate - you are a coot.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 7:48 PM
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Hot seat no. But let’s be real here if he doesn’t change his ways.
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:49 PM
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That’s all I’m saying.
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All-In [11007]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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No. It won't even be a thought by anyone who has any say.
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Dynasty Maker [3457]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 7:54 PM
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Who is this we you speak of?
You are not a Clemson Fan.
You just got here and you ask a stupid question.
Not even a good troll!
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Me just getting here makes me not a Clemson fan? I’m sorry I didn’t create a tigernet account at birth.
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Campus Hero [13435]
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the people who make these decisions have a longer and deeper view
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:35 PM
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than morons on TNET. Dabo is and has been great for Clemson, Clemson football and Clemson Sports. He made the ACCCG this year. Doesn't mean much to you because you didn't do the slightest bit of work to get the team there. Those that actually know football and football programs, know the work it takes and appreciate how he handles these things.
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: the people who make these decisions have a longer and deeper view
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After every other school in the country has already established revenue sharing. It’s like making an investment in a stock a year after everyone already knows about it. You’re already behind.
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Re: the people who make these decisions have a longer and deeper view
Dec 2, 2024, 9:08 PM
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If “falling behind” represents taking a team in the midst of the fastest paced, highly transformative era that CFB has ever known, and then maintain the team’s 10 win season streak (with the one line exception exception being 2023) starting 2011 -and further- playing for another conference championship + knocking on the door for another berth in the CFP, then indeed Dabo is a falling behind.
Good luck dreaming that Shane Beamer will ‘fall behind’ same as Dabo.
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Re: the people who make these decisions have a longer and deeper view
Dec 2, 2024, 10:00 PM
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Why do we keep comparing ourselves to South Carolina? Who cares about South Carolina? They aren't the measuring stick we shoukd be looking at. We used to be in the same category as Texas, UGA, Bama, Michigan, Ohio St. These last 4 years were closer to the category of Pitt and NC State. Look at the ACC; SMU in their first year is in the title game! We laughed and mocked them for joining the ACC. This conference is a joke. It stinks to say but its the truth. Going 9-3 with an ACC schedule isn't acceptable. We played 4 average or better teams this year, in those games we lost 3 of them. The one victory was a last minute miracle against a team playing their backup QB. Heck, even the Citadel ran the ball all day against us. This program is not elite currently. We haven't even beaten any good teams this year. The smart and painful bet would be on SMU to continue this trend. I love my Alma Mater, but this program has major issues right now. The fact we are comparing ourselves to South Carolina should be a huge alarm for us all.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:51 PM
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No your stupid question makes you either: not a fan or a coot or a spoiled brat that’s only known Clemson as a National Power.
If it’s the latter you can thank Dabo . He is the sole reason Clemson got there and is still there!
Hoped that helped skippy.
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Hall of Famer [8104]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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There is no hot seat for Dabo
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Everyone has their crossroads with fans and the university at some point. It’s inevitable, and I think it’s closer than we think.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dabo is Clemson's Bobby Bowden. He could lose 100 games over the next decade and they still wouldn't fire him. He did more for Clemson than anyone ever imagined.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:14 PM
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Key word, did. I just don’t understand his child-like defiance of keeping up with the times. At some point if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 10:05 PM
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It's just not going to happen. I mean I'm glad I got to feel what being on top of the mountain felt like. 90% of the rest of college football fans will never get to feel it. As far as adapting goes, Clemson WILL be extremely active in the portal going forward. I think the writing on the wall is that we only have 14 players committed in 2025. I expect Clemson to add 8-10 portal additions.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Nope. A portion of our fans love dabo more than our program..and there’s the problem.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Should he be? Yes. Will he be on the hot seat? No. Practically speaking Clemson cannot afford to buy him out. We definetly cannot afford to buy him out, pay a comprable replacement, and fight to leave the ACC. As for those saying he's earned the right to retire whenever he wants I strongly disagree. Every sport and every legendary coach come to a point where either the game, or the will to coach passes them by. At that point you have 2 options. Allow the legend to continue, brag about past accomplishmens, and press forward with the understanding the program will continue to regress. The other option? Part ways either amicably or forcibly and therefore move the team in a new direction. This choice ultimately lies with Dabo at the moment. It is not too late to right the ship, but changes in philosophy must be made. Early Dabo showed a willingness to adapt and change, veteran Dabo seems to be adverse to change. I'm hoping for a resurgence of early Dabo, veteran Dabo gives me too much concern for the future. If he doesnt adapt, I do not wish to continue to brag about past championships of previous decades while watching a team compete to win 7-9 games a year. These "best" standards would not stand at other top programs, why would we allow them to at Clemson?
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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This is a fantastic point and aligns with my original thought process. Had he been a great coach? Absolutely. But how many years will it take saying “he did” this and “he did” that before it’s too late? Going to have to pay players a lot more to come into a rebuilding program than it would cost now.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:57 PM
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You people are either just trolls or your teenagers who have never known anything but winning provided by Dabo.
Either way your point of view is pitiful and greedy but sadly the type of attitude I see all around.
Enjoy the next few years because your attitude and people of your ilk have killed college sports!
It cannot sustain this current system!
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:57 PM
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You people are either just trolls or your teenagers who have never known anything but winning provided by Dabo.
Either way your point of view is pitiful and greedy but sadly the type of attitude I see all around.
Enjoy the next few years because your attitude and people of your ilk have killed college sports!
It cannot sustain this current system!
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:11 PM
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Ok. If he doesn’t change he should hear about it as he collects his checks all the way to retirement. Hopefully he does change But if not let him answer questions every week. Real ones.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:31 PM
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Let me clarify. If he continues doing things in the current manner, we continue to lose games and recruits, and we continue to lose to South Carolina you're ok will all of this? As long as he gets asked difficult questions at press conferences that he is under no obligation to answer truthfully or take under consideration? This from the same guy who cancelled his call-in questions? I'm as proud of 2015 and 2018 as much as the next guy but I'd prefer to brag about current success, not wins from the previous decade.
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Tiger Spirit [9112]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:28 PM
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No. Dumb question.
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:29 PM
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Thank you for your insightful input.
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Campus Hero [13435]
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questions like this reveal how shallow you are***
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:29 PM
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All-In [10257]
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Re: questions like this reveal how shallow you are***
Dec 2, 2024, 9:12 PM
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Questions like that reflect why GameKook fans are so short sighted when it comes to their own FB program.
The Gamekook fans are to football as the meth heads are to high energy people. The moment the euphoria of the high has past, they go crazy and do something very stupid.
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Game Changer [1754]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:29 PM
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Just enjoy your honeymoon with sellers. If you’re lucky, some other SEC team will pay him tiles of money and he will leave.
If he doesn’t leave, he’s gonna provide you with 180 yards passing per game next year like he did in 2024. Good luck.
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Tiger Cub [14]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:33 PM
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Brother, I asked a question to create a discussion about our coach and your response was, “dumb question”. If that’s your opinion, great, but it’s not adding anything to the conversation.
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Tiger Titan [47343]
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No, because a lot of people at Clemson believe he gets a permanent pass
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:46 PM
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because of success he had last decade.
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Game Changer [1762]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 2, 2024, 8:46 PM
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What an idiotic question coot.
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MVP [514]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:23 PM
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Absolutely not and never will be.
Dabo has earned the right to leave on his own terms, and that may be much sooner than most of us realize.
I hope I’m wrong, but I have a feeling he’s decided to retire after this season is over and has already told some members of his staff. This may explain why we’ve lost so many commitments recently.
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 9:36 PM
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I think if recruits knew he was retiring, the rest of the football universe would know as well. In todays social-media environment a secret like that could not be trusted to recruits to not share. Secondly, no coach, regardless of success earns an indefinite stay. Do you not think if Saban had not retired and began to lose 3-4 games perennially while losing out on top recruits Bama fans wouldn't be asking for his resignation. All good athletes, coaches, executives, etc reach a point where they are no longer in their prime. Is Dabo at that point? I don't honestly know. What I do know is the current results and trends are not great. Dabo can and must adjust. The question is will he.
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Dynasty Maker [3457]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 2, 2024, 10:59 PM
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Dabo has earned the right!
Build statues and rename the he stadium !
Dabo is Clemson Football.
It will be a sad day when He is gone!
If they were to fire Dabo I would never watch another game !!! Ever!
That’s not gonna happen!
Go Dabo! Go Tigers!!
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 3, 2024, 1:47 AM
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Your cult worshiping of Dabo is scary
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 3, 2024, 1:46 AM
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Proud 2011 Alumni. Clemson football is bigger than any one person. I'm not rooting against Dabo, but if he doesnt change his mentality the program will continue to decline. Past success doesn't create an unlimited timeline for future failure.
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110%er [3646]
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His future is better than any coach at SCjr
Dec 2, 2024, 9:42 PM
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Nm
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Re: His future is better than any coach at SCjr
Dec 2, 2024, 9:46 PM
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Who cares about South Carolina? They've never had any success in football. If we're comparing ourselves to them now we really are up the creek without a paddle. The reason myself and others are mad is the success Clemson HAS had on the field. With every passing season that success is becoming a memory, not a future reality.
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Freshman [-96]
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Re: His future is better than any coach at SCjr
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We’ll see about that when Beamer makes it in the CFP and yall are in the Pop Tart Bowl
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Valley Protector [1489]
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Head coach of the Clemson Tigers...duh***
Dec 2, 2024, 10:01 PM
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Freshman [-96]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
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Dec 3, 2024, 1:43 AM
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Please keep him and give him a lifetime contract. His refusal to adapt will kill the clempson football program and give us some more ### whoopins over yall
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Tiger Cub [13]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 3, 2024, 6:27 AM
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He better hope we win and get into playoffs. LSU is going to be on FIRE come next season when they come in Death Valley. I'm tired of losing to the SEC
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Asst Coach [845]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 3, 2024, 7:14 AM
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Only in terms of the pressure to make drastic changes to the coaching staff...
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110%er [3866]
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Re: Future of Dabo if we lose to SMU?
Dec 3, 2024, 9:21 AM
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No but he should at a minimum be sat down and reminded he's paid to win games and play for championships. To do that he has to evolve and make changes to his typical way of doing business.
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