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Future Expectations With Clemson Football
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Future Expectations With Clemson Football

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:28 AM
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Without a great year and a possible natty , we will be back to mediocrity soon. This year and this roster is Dabo's last stand at Clemson. When it comes to the value of programs and the amount of revenue that is brought in per year Clemson doesn't even rank in the top 25. With the current Pay for Play NIL we have to hope for some type of changes or we will not last long against these cash rich schools with overly eager alums who want to see them win and will help them buy the best players. Lets hope this year's team is the real Deal!

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:30 AM
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With fans like you who needs enemies?

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:32 AM
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You mean alt accounts for resident trolls, right? 🙃

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football ]
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Fans like me huh ? Fans who tell the truth ? You sound like you don't know much about football and don't like the truth. You don't win on the big stage of football without big time players . Correct me when I am wrong . Stop always looking at things with Clemson homer shades and take a look at reality . We finished the '24 recruiting cycle ranked 15 in recruiting , '25 cycle we finished at 28, and we are falling in the '26 class as we speak. Please come with facts or hold your dumb remarks thank you.

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:46 AM
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Aug 5, 2025, 11:55 AM
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Nailed it!

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Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:00 PM [ in reply to Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football ]
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Ahh yes, the old you must not know about football rebuttal. I'm as realistic as they come when looking at this stuff.

Clemson with Dabo will never get into an auction for players, but somehow, he keeps winning. He recruits individuals who want to be at Clemson for more than just money. If they come for money only then they will leave for money.

Dabo is using the portal now and will continue to do so to plug holes as he needs.

The drop to 28th in recruiting on 25 was due to NIL which Clemson was not a player as they should have been and/or Dabo chose not to hike up the offer the players already had.

Some of our best recruiting classes were mid teens.

2014 - 16th DW4, Artavis Scott
2016 - 11th Big Dex, Tre Lamar, Trayvon Mullen, Simmons
2017 - 16th Tee Higgins, AJ Terrell, ETN
2019 - 11th Tyler Davis and Ruke (3 star)
2022 - 14th Cade, Blake Miler & Woodaz (3 stars)
2023 - 14th TJ, Woods, OPH, Barnes,
2024 - 15th Sammy Brown, Moore and Wesco
2025 - 28th the year you call out - Amare Adams, Brayden Jacobs, Davidson, Watford, Ware

Some of our "elite" recruiting years.
2020 - 3rd DJ, Breese, Bowman, Tchico, EJ Williams
2021 - 5th Denhoff, Pennington, Beau Collins and Bubba Chandler all 4 stars

Point being class rankings don't always tell the story. Yes, in the higher rated classes we did have some superstars in those classes, but most were small ore zero sum contributors.

You can accuse me of having orange-colored glasses on all day long. Proof is in the pudding. Clemson will pull their fair share of talent and fill holes as needed and still be very competitive with the programs that have unlimited funds to pay players in NIL.

The biggest issue the program has faced the last three years in my opinion was coaching and it appears to me that Dabo has rectified that issue with the hires of Luke, and Allen not to mention several position coaches.

So, my original statement stands. With fans like you who needs enemies. It's healthy to debate football, starters, coaches etc. What I can't stand and will never understand is the "fans" who are constantly doom and gloom.

I'll make a prediction about you. You'll be one of the dozens of "ignorant fans" that show up on this board during a game when Clemson is down by a TD talking about the game being over and how the team sucks, never to be found when the final score shows a Clemson win.

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:32 PM
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Do you see the type players that headlined each of those classes ? Name one time that any of those recruiting classes got beat by 31 points against anyone. Like I said Georgia beat us 34 - 3 last year and its a reason that happened it wasn't just coaching . How many rushing yards did we give up to Texas ? Say what you want and you are welcomed to your opinion. I know that we aren't recruiting on an elite Level. You go find me a team with a 28th ranked recruiting class that has been competitive on a national stage. It helps that we play in a weak ACC that gives us a chance to fight for a playoff spot. I am confident in this years team based on the roster. That roster will have a plethora of holes to fill after this season and we are not recruiting well to plug those spots with elite players , but hey you got it Super Fan. Lol

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Hey, Tyler!


Aug 5, 2025, 1:04 PM [ in reply to Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football ]
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How’s sparklecity treating ya these days?

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:46 AM
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Why even bother watching since you know the outcome?

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:54 AM
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truth hurts , Dabo was mediocre before he got elite recruits to come in along with 2 generational QB's .
After this year, he is back to where he started from a talent standpoint . Our recruiting is barely top 25 over the last 3-4 years and that is where we will be struggling to land each year going forward, a borderline top 25 team. You cant struggle with recruiting and only sign 2-3 portal guys each cycle and expect to be elite when your competition is recruiting as good or better than you and signing portal hauls to boost experience and talent.

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:13 AM
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Exactly , I can't remember a team that was mediocre at recruiting that competed for a championship. Facts don't change, because its a team that I pull for. If we don't do something to change the direction of recruiting going forward it is no way the respect that Clemson has on the football front will last . We can't pay the recruits like other teams and we are losing the big games ( besides the ACC championship ) . People need to get out of their feelings and get a reality check.

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Heres your reality check coot

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:48 AM
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Re: Heres your reality check coot

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:51 AM
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Lmao you try to call every one who has a difference of opinion on Clemson football a Coot, that is childish at best. Just call me a fan with a different opinion . I'm definitely a Clemson fan just not one that tries to argue against facts. It's okay to be a die hard fan , its not okay to be delusional .

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Absolutely not true

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:26 PM
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I’m calling you a coot because you’re a coot.

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Aug 5, 2025, 5:57 PM [ in reply to Heres your reality check coot ]
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My gawd that sign is so embarrassing knowing that’s ALL they have 🤡🤡

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:59 AM [ in reply to Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football ]
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Truth like S.C, Is the laughing stock of college football with nothing to show for the last 100 years ? Never received a playoff bid even with the expansion? Holds a losing record with their instate rival of 73-44 ?

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:08 AM [ in reply to Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football ]
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Another dumb fan , I did not say I know the outcome. I said talent wise this looks to be Dabo's last roster that will compete at the top of college football based on talent if he does not win big this year to draw in the recruits needed to continue to compete on a championship Level . If you see the facts with what we have been doing on the field and in recruiting the trajectory has been downward. Stop trying to argue with facts.

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Aug 5, 2025, 2:41 PM
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I heard the same thing 3-4 years ago. "Clemson is irrelevant, they can't compete in this NIL era. Dabo has to change his ways or accept mediocrity".

And here we are, preseason top 10.

I'll trust Dabo.

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Aug 5, 2025, 3:39 PM
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Lmao , you act like preseason top 10 is some type of accomplishment . That is just an opinion, it doesn't win you anything or get you anywhere. You have to go out and play those games and COMPETE! The team we have this year is talented , I am not arguing that , I said if we don't maximize our talent this season I don't see us keeping up with the big spenders in the future.

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:54 AM
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Skidaddle

https://youtu.be/F3btYYCmJOA?si=FeEMYQp6SxajBH78

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Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:01 AM
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old 81 is a pathetic troll. he trolls every sport. sad thing is some people actually believe him.

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Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:40 AM
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There you are, I thought you had vanished after you were so dead wrong about baseball ? I will give you one thing, you are consistent, consistently wrong about anything you talk about!

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Aug 5, 2025, 10:55 AM
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We will never be a top value school simply because of numbers including population and living alumni. You are dead wrong about mediocrity because winning a Championship is not the end all be all of a great program. Revenue is one thing, value is another and it is far more than a National Championship that drives those cars.

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:27 AM
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TSitton makes valid points in his original post. Dabo is not recruiting at an elite level…the numbers don’t lie. The chance of us keeping up w the big boys w the current classes we are bringing in are slim to none🤷‍♂️

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:37 AM
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Gville85Tiger , they don't like the truth. The reason we beat great teams in the past is because we were recruiting top talent just like they were. Its not happening anymore. Georgia is a top recruiting team and they killed us last year. We played well against Texas but there were a lot of holes exposed from talent to coaching . I give credit Dabo has really built a great coaching staff so that is fixed, however, if we don't recruit on a high stage even that won't matter.

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Kind of a Dark Original Post

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:44 AM
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2025 is a critical year. No doubt. Winning vs. SEC teams and ACC rivals would enhance recruiting and better position Clemson for upcoming conference realignment. But not an end-all be-all season.

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:49 AM
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I am not necessarily saying " end all be all " season . I am saying if this team does not come out and make a statement with the talent that is suppose to be present this season it will be costly. There is a large amount of talent on this team when you look at it " on paper " . We also have arguably the best coaching staff we've had under Dabo it has to produce, if not I don't see us being very competitive in the future IMO .

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:52 AM
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You are about to get smashed on this post bro.

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With a TigerPulse below 45% & dropping like a rock, nobody takes you seriously.

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:53 AM
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Take your ball and go home.


Message was edited by: Chuckston T-Man®


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Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football

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Aug 5, 2025, 11:55 AM
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You underestimate the unique program that Dabo and Graham Neff are building at Clemson. You underestimate what stability and character mean to a program in these changing times. You underestimate what loyal Clemson supporters will do to support this program. We are in good hands as long as Dabo and staff are at Clemson. The coming years will prove you wrong. GO TIGERS!!!!

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Aug 5, 2025, 1:11 PM
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we saw last year what this means, losing 4 games and getting smoked by UGA and losing to the ##### again. Look at our record against ranked teams over the last 10 games and tell me again what a wonderful thing Dabo and Neff are building. Numbers dont lie and the results speak for themselves, with recruiting average outside the top 20 the last few years, and a refusal to use the portal outside of a few takes, the future is not bright. The talent gap Clemson enjoyed for so long against the ACC and USCUCK, is gone completely. If this is what DABO AND NEFF are building then we are in for hard times for sure. Talent wins games , you cant win the kentucky derby with mules .

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Aug 5, 2025, 3:57 PM
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Again , Enjoy wearing your I Love ##### tshirt while watching the Playoffs on TV . We know that you are use to doing so .

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:15 PM
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Here's a lesson for you. This is a Clemson FAN site. Trying to put out an objective criticism is just not going to play well on a fan site. Bellyaching can only happen once we are into the season and things go wrong...proactively trying to predict failure, even if you are trying to be objective, will land you in the Coot zone every time.

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:34 PM
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I can label myself a fan and still give my outlook on the teams future and that doesn't make me any less of a fan if I am pointing out a factual dip in recruiting and performance vs top competition . So whatever you want to feel or say you're welcome to it .

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:52 PM
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I get it. I don't completely disagree with your assessment. Recruiting has taken a hit in the last couple of years. But you have to take your punches if you point that out....You should commiserate with Judge Keller who has gone over the top with "objective" criticism to the point where he or she gets negative reactions to even the positive coments made.

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Aug 5, 2025, 1:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Future Expectations With Clemson Football ]
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BECAUSE HE IS A COOT TROLL. ####.

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:43 PM
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Coot alert....bwack bwack!!!

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:57 PM
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I smell chicken..........

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"Dabo doesn't want to use the portal. We should just stop saying that he does". ~ Judge Keller


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Aug 5, 2025, 1:05 PM
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Obed®'s back.

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Aug 5, 2025, 6:33 PM
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I thought it was ClemsonSCTiger

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