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So sometimes we want to help hurricane victims, other times no?
Dec 18, 2024, 9:25 AM
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What precisely in Mike Johnson’s bill funds illegal immigration?
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Campus Hero [13336]
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You said that.
Dec 18, 2024, 9:48 AM
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Not me.
DHS and FEMA both get and spend money to provide services for illegals.
I wonder how long it would take to pay off our $36 trillion debt if we started paying it off, say $100 million per day.
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CU Medallion [19875]
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What is Trumps track record in his first term on debt?
Dec 18, 2024, 10:05 AM
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What percentage of FEMA and DHS funds go to providing services to illegals?
One would think there might be something on X about this?
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Campus Hero [13336]
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What is Biden's track record on debt?
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:07 AM
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Since we're just asking random questions.
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CU Medallion [19875]
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Trump vs Biden on debt info.
Dec 18, 2024, 11:21 AM
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From the beginning of Donald Trump’s presidency in 2017 to its end in 2021, the national debt increased by 40.43%, about $8.18 trillion, according to the U.S. Treasury Department.
As of April 5, 2024, the national debt has grown by about $6.17 trillion, or 21.7%, since Joe Biden was inaugurated in 2021, according to the U.S. Treasury Department. In his first year in control of the federal budget from September 2021 to September 2022, the debt grew by about $2.5 trillion. In his second year, it grew by $2.24 trillion. The national debt has grown by $1.43 trillion so far this year.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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That's horrifying.
Dec 18, 2024, 11:28 AM
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And a good reason it's very hopeful that the CR is getting so much pushback.
Pubs who talk like conservatives but spend like democrats is a big part of the problem.
Do you see much impetus for debt reduction on the left?
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Ultimate Tiger [35571]
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Exactly how many hours a day do you spend copying X posts to Tnet?***
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Dec 18, 2024, 9:47 AM
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Less than you spend deflecting from the topics.***
Dec 18, 2024, 9:49 AM
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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Do you ever have any original thoughts?
Dec 18, 2024, 10:03 AM
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Or is it just whatever outrage you see on X, like lies about school shooters being trans?
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Sure
Dec 18, 2024, 10:05 AM
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Do you?
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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Definitely
Dec 18, 2024, 10:30 AM
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Especially after a few beverages and an edible...
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Ultimate Tiger [35571]
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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Re: Thomas Massie on the omnibus
Dec 18, 2024, 10:37 AM
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Thomas Massie: "People call me NostraThomas..."
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Ultimate Tiger [36272]
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Re: Funding illegal immigration
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:06 AM
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Last week you were pissed off that FEMA wasn’t giving people houses, now you’re mad about the government funding FEMA? Welcome to MAGA worldview- no solutions, just being pissed off all the time.
I’m really excited to see who gets the blame when nothing changes after Trump takes office and has Congress. My assumption is that the “deep state” will flex its muscle again when prices don’t come down, immigrants still cross the border, cities still have crime, and wars still exist.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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And you're pissed off
Dec 18, 2024, 11:09 AM
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because I'm noting that your claim is not true.
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Re: And you're pissed off
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:11 AM
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Ok, so just another example of posting rage bait tweets with no commentary at all, then pretending like you’re just sharing news. Got it. This forum was better when LBB and Miura posted constant nonsense, at least they weren’t huge ####### and actually stood behind what they posted.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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You people lie so easily.
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:12 AM
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Lots of practice?
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Re: You people lie so easily.
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:16 AM
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You’re batshit crazy dude. Maybe go outside and touch some grass every now and then.
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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He hasn't posted an original argument or counterpoint in 20 years
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:18 AM
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It's either...
-Steal someone else's long, well-written editorial and pretending it's his.
-Posting a rage Tweet that states what he actually believes.
Then he'll deflect and pretend he didn't say it, twist the conversation into points that aren't relevant, and try either personally attack or gaslight anyone who challenges him. After pretending he isn't stating what's in the OP, he'll post another one shortly after.
Dude needs a life. At least others here who agree with him actually offer some discussion.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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LOL at lying boy
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:19 AM
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You're on a roll.
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Re: Pay raise for congress included.
Dec 19, 2024, 12:01 AM
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That's disinformation from Elon. Do a little fact checking. Recommendation: Don't search the CR like I did, just google for the fact check to save yourself a lot of time. The fact check says a max increase of 3.8% in 2025 (not the 40% Leon lied about), but I'm still searching for it.
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Re: Pay raise for congress included.
Dec 19, 2024, 12:18 AM
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Found it with the help of factcheck.org, but like it says you have to figure out what the stricken language does. Congress passed a law in 1989 to give themselves cost of living adjustments, but have blocked it every year to look good politically. The last raise was in 2009 (language from that act is stricken in the failed CR to allow an annual COLA). Don't know how Leon cooked up 40% unless he's expecting 40% inflation under Trump.
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Re: Pay raise for congress included.
Dec 19, 2024, 12:43 AM
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Correction, it strikes a phrase from PL 118-83, that references a section in PL 118-47 blocking COLAs:
"Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no adjustment shall be made under section 601(a) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946 (2 U.S.C. 4501) (relating to cost of living adjustments for Members of Congress) during fiscal year 2024."
Similar phrasing has been used since to block the raise at various times since 1989. Five years under Clinton, no raise. Then they got a yearly raise under Bush, except for 2007. They haven't gotten a raise since Jan 1, 2009 when Bush was president. Ironically, Clinton and Obama are also the only presidents in my lifetime to freeze government and government contractor salaries.
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Re: Pay raise for congress included.
Dec 19, 2024, 12:52 AM
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The last three times Congress got a raise under a Democratic president, the budget was either balanced or we were running a surplus (Jan 1 of 1998, 2000, and 2001). Those are also the only times under a Democratic president since Carter.
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Typical and intentional DC Swamp shid that
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Dec 18, 2024, 1:03 PM
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has gone on for too long. This isn't really a CR but an Omnibus bill full of garbage and poison pills.
Like him or not - Thomas Massie called this out 3 months ago when Congress had plenty of time to come up with different spending bills but knew they would refuse to do so.
https://x.com/_robertakabobby/status/1869193490653229366
I'm so sick of this shid from both political party's...
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Republicans wrote the bill. Why are you mad at lefties?
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Dec 18, 2024, 3:35 PM
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Amazing your inability to look at your own party's problems.
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If you don't think
Dec 18, 2024, 3:41 PM
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I criticize sellout pubs, you've mistaken Caterwaula's hysterical lies for reality.
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You don't. You support spend-happy Pubs like Trump and Bush.***
Dec 18, 2024, 3:48 PM
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LOL at lying boy
Dec 18, 2024, 3:52 PM
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In this thread is a I made about lying, sellout pubs.
Why don't you see if you can find it.
You're such a child.
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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Name three Pub politicians in the past 20 years
Dec 18, 2024, 3:56 PM
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You supported, either in Congress or in the executive branch, who never had a hand in increasing spending.
Tell us also why you've been so fiercely loyal to Pubs who have done it, like Trump, Bush, etc.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Did you find it?
Dec 18, 2024, 4:20 PM
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Want to recant your recent lie?
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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Can't name em, huh? Didn't think so.
Dec 18, 2024, 4:22 PM
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McMuff is pro-big government spending.
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So why complain on TNet to the 'lefties'
Dec 19, 2024, 9:42 AM
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The TNet lefties had no part of this, and aren't defending it. Direct your complaints to the people that wrote the bill, and stop voting for those same type of people.
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I have a crazy idea....
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Dec 19, 2024, 7:50 AM
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why don't we expect the WH and Congress to PASS A GOT DANG BUDGET AND APPROPRIATIONS BILLS LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AND STOP ALL OF THIS CR BULLCRAP?!?!?!?
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Orange Phenom [14190]
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^^^THIS^^^^
Dec 19, 2024, 9:20 AM
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There are 12 appropriations committees of the same subject areas (if not titles) in the House and Senate who are supposed to produce 12 SEPARATE spending bills every year to cover all of our Government spending.
But do we do that in any type of consistent orderly fashion throughout the year where all of our elected officials get a chance to participate/comment/read the bills as they go through committee and finally to floor votes?? NO...
Instead we have a select group of lifelong Party politicos (from both Party's) who are now more like oligarchs that go behind closed doors for weeks/months, wait until the last d.amned minute when Government funding is about to expire and throw their Frankenstein created 1500(+) page Ominibus funding bill garbage at the rest of Congress and demand an immediate vote to avoid a Government shutdown. THIS IS TOTAL BS and has been going on WAY TOO LONG. We are not meant to be Governed this way and it is time to say ENOUGH...
So I'm glad this pork filled Omnibus bill hiding as a "CR" bill was killed. I don't care if the Government "shuts down" or if all of Congress misses Christmas and New Years because of it. They didn't do their jobs after the last "CR" bill (which was only 27 pages long) and it is their fault for the predicament the country is in. They either produce another 90 day, 27 page "clean CR" or get to work on the 12 separate spending bills to have it done in a couple of weeks.
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Re: ^^^THIS^^^^
Dec 19, 2024, 9:49 AM
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But if your pension check comes a day late, you’ll really flip out. Wait till you hear Leon and Vivek’s plans for those illogical govt and military pensions.
It wasn’t like this until Gingrich, when he introduced shutting down the government as a political weapon. It has never worked for them. Government employees go home, contractors keep working until their contracts run short of money. Eventually, Republicans give in and all the govt employees get back pay for the furlough and effectively a free vacation.
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