Re: From a Pharmacist...

mph5491 · 2018-12-27T15:03:07.550Z

My dad is a licensed Pharmacist/professor of Pharmacology who has decades of experience and has written/published numerous articles about substances. He is very familiar with drug tests and percentages....Per Dex this morning, the Osterine showed up on the test at .02%. I texted my dad and he said that the percentage would've been much higher if he had taken actual supplements of Osterine. With that in mind, it's fairly safe to say that is must have came from something secondary. I know no one is really surprised but I just wanted to throw this out there. Hoping it gets straightened out but knowing the NCAA, there's not much room for interpretation.

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Dec 27, 2018, 1:34 PM

No, actually your thinking is backward on that. The salt bath could be it because of the numerous variables involved in people getting contact amounts of it introduced into their system in such a manner, which is not a uniform exposure for numerous reasons, such as amount of ostarine not being standardized to any given level for bath products which are not reguated by FDA (so some scoops may have more or less of this substance in it), the amount of time (if any) certain players spent in this bath for varying reasons, the difference between transdermal absorption rates between different people are drastically different as opposed to medicine injected or taken orally, as well as the time it takes for people to metabolize this substance will be diffrent for each person given both the duration of exposure and concentration of the substance in said individual's bath.

In other words, there are many complicated variables that could make this scenario very likely the culprit and almost impossible to zero in on in a short time frame as it will take time to do testing on these salts, various batches and brands of it and so on.

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At a half life of 24 hours, the amount of substance left after 4 days is still 6.25% of whatever you took. That's not "gone" at all...it would still clearly register on a drug test. And you are right, that's what the NCAA will be considering, as they should.

Take "Clemson" and "Dex" and "Ostarine" and "NCAA" out of the conversation. If it was HGH that was caught in the test at a trace amount, that could clearly mean that the athlete was caught near the end of a doping cycle. It doesn't make him more innocent just because it's a trace...it's all timing.

Now, all that said, I am definitely of the opinion that this is all BS and Dex and crew did nothing wrong. But from the pure standpoint of why the athletes are drug tested, the fact that any of a banned substance was found has to trigger a suspension otherwise the drug testing is useless.

The bigger question should probably be whether or not the threshold for Ostraine should be raised so that trace amounts via contaminated supplements do not have such a large impact.

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