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Game Day Hero [4346]
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From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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Dec 22, 2024, 10:35 AM
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or sunshine pumper, whichever you think applies. Or both.
Some come on here and cop the "WE TOLD Y'ALL" attitude after every Clemson loss and in many cases, DURING every Clemson loss and in still other cases, before, during and after every Clemson WIN.
But here's the thing: it's two sides of the same coin.
Of course this Clemson team is not going to climb the mountaintop in their present reduced state. But that does not mean they aren't a year away, or two or three.
Of course we watched them miss tackles and kick horrific punts and do all the things we wish they wouldn't do yesterday in DKR.
But I tell you, they kept coming back and showing flashes of brilliance. Like when you tune in the radio and catch flashes of Led Zeppelin -- you keep fine-tuning until it's dialed-in and then turn up the volume.
That's this Clemson team. Flashes of Zeppelin. Just needs a little fine-tuning.
But what we optimists don't feel entitled to do is, from the cheapest seats possible (anonymously, online), publicly snipe at every wrinkle, every imperfection, we see.
Instead, we believe Dabo Swinney, who is not immortal and yes, is very well paid, is probably the best coach to do what we believe needs doing. And history is probably on our side in that regard.
HTH. Go Tigers.
Merry Christmas.
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Paw Master [16873]
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Terrible punting in year 6. This is how I know Dabo is not serious about winning
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He chooses to field his friend's kid despite him being terrible. That is not someone that is going to make all the right decisions to make this program a winner.
I feel sorry for the players.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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So the same guy who made all the right decisions to make the program
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a winner is not the guy who can make all the right decisions to make the program a winner.
I'll file that one away.
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Paw Master [17705]
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You could have said the same thing about Bobby Bowden...and Jimbo Fisher...
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:45 PM
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You can file it away, but your handle has to live long enough to use it Skockman
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Paw Master [16873]
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So not playing Wesco and Moore in the opener was the right decision?
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Playing a hurt Mafah for a month was the right call?
Sitting DW and Trevor on the bench behind lesser talent was the right call?
I get that he’s trying to reward upper classmen but sometimes it’s to the detriment of the team. He literally cost us valuable RB experience this year just trying to get Mafah to 1000 yards. The rules are different now, talent isn’t going to sit around and hope to play some day.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I have absolutely no idea.
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Dec 24, 2024, 11:27 AM
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But I have a pretty good idea that if he had played Wesco and Moore in the opener, or started DW or TL over more experienced players, or if he had sat Mafah instead of playing him, that you'd be on here b*tching about it how he shouldn't have played Wesco and Moore, or started DW or TL, or stuck with Mafah despite being hurt.
Because fans like you are always less interested in the 100 things that went right than you are in the three or four things that went wrong.
I'm glad we don't work together.
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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And people like you defend Dabo to the death and cant acknowledge the issues.
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You just keep referencing our two national championships, tell us that things are great, and lecture us on being more grateful. Dabo would be proud.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Gonna refer you back to the OP.
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Dec 24, 2024, 11:51 AM
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"Of course this Clemson team is not going to climb the mountaintop in their present reduced state. But that does not mean they aren't a year away, or two or three.
Of course we watched them miss tackles and kick horrific punts and do all the things we wish they wouldn't do yesterday in DKR."
I think that what you don't like about people like me isn't our optimism, it's that people like me don't think people like you know more than people like Dabo do about how to win football games.
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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I dont see anyone claiming to know more than Dabo.
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Dec 24, 2024, 12:28 PM
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His accomplishments speak for themselves.
However, those accomplishments don’t mean that he is above criticism.
It is pretty obvious by our slide the last four years that he doesn’t have all of the answers.
You can’t blame people for offering their suggestions and critiques, especially when we continue to have issues.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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If winning 10 (again), winning the ACC (again), and making the playoff (again)
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Dec 25, 2024, 9:18 AM
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is what it looks like to "have issues," sign me up.
And to criticize the way another person takes care of their business is to indeed claim to know more than the other person does about their business.
Which in this case is absurd, because for anyone other than maybe Nick Saban to criticize Swinney about the way he's handling Clemson football is on the level of a third grade math class criticizing Einstein for the way he handled relativity.
Merry Christmas!
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Dynasty Maker [3211]
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Re: Terrible punting in year 6. This is how I know Dabo is not serious about winning
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He did that and won national championships! So it’s a problem now that we are not? A national championship isn’t realistic every single year. There are 128 teams that compete for the national championship every year. There are only 2 active coaches that have won it. That’s how hard it is. This team we had this year was only 2 or 3 pieces away.
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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Our team this year was way more than 2 or 3 pieces away.***
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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All those broken and faulty pieces.
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Dec 24, 2024, 12:02 PM
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And they still made it to within a few plays of beating the same team many believe will eventually become national champions.
What a testament to the ability of Coach Swinney and staff to recruit and develop talent at the highest levels.
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.***
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I don't lose sleep over this.
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Dec 25, 2024, 9:20 AM
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It's Clemson football, not cancer research.
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Paw Master [17705]
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yeah, if the going gets tough, you'll just change your handle...again***
Dec 26, 2024, 5:05 PM
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I am flattered by your obsession with me.
Dec 26, 2024, 5:54 PM
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And hope you have a very Happy New Year's.
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Paw Master [17705]
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I don't know what it is, but I just love watching you run from my simple
Dec 26, 2024, 6:06 PM
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question...At least you aren't lying about not having a previous handle anymore...that's progress right?
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I've never had another handle.
Dec 26, 2024, 6:11 PM
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And I remain flattered by your obsession with me.
And I hope you have a Happy New Year's.
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Paw Master [17705]
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Spoiler Alert: Nobody believes that...you absolutely got here before April,
Dec 26, 2024, 6:14 PM
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you've been posting here for years
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I think I told you I've been reading TNET for years.
Dec 26, 2024, 6:26 PM
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If it'll make you feel better, feel free to throw out any handles you think I've operated under before and I'll be happy to say whether you've guessed correctly.
In the meantime, I remain flattered by your obsession with me. And I hope you have a Happy New Year's.
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Paw Master [17705]
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Of course you've been reading for years, you've also been posting...a lot***
Dec 26, 2024, 7:05 PM
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Is "posts a lot" or "posting a lot" the handles you want me to check on
Dec 27, 2024, 5:22 PM
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for you?
Please hold while I consult the bots.
Ok.
I checked.
Nope. Never operated under either one.
Now that you see how this works, maybe you could tell me which handle(s) you are convinced I've used in the past?
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Paw Master [17705]
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aaaah the charade continues***
Dec 27, 2024, 5:25 PM
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MVP [527]
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Re: Our team this year was way more than 2 or 3 pieces away.***
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I think he is correct about 2 or 3 more pieces. 1 more elite DE, 1 more elite LB, and if went for 3 perhaps a good punter. So I wouldn't say way more than 2 or 3 players. With that you probably don't lose to SC, GA still a loss, but so early in the season it wouldn't have mattered. Play Lou better but maybe we still lose. And give Texas a much better game. Even without that we still got to the playoffs. That can't be argued. We were there.
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I do not post on this site often, however, I do read the responses…. Dabo knows the winning formula! He’s been successful in the pass, however, he has to change or the game is going to pass him…. Flame away! I’m 71 years old and have sat in these stand since I was 5-years old!
This program has been amongst the best over the years…. It requires top notch leadership! It requires top notch coaching and leadership! Something I’ve have seen that is missing!
It’s Dabo’s responsibility to hire the best coaching available…. I am not seeing that on the field today!
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Go find the best coaching *available*
Dec 25, 2024, 9:21 AM
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and let us know how many of them aren't already working for Clemson.
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totally agree. I was a punter at Daniel High in Clemson for 2 years and averaged well better than what we got now, I didn't get any offers, LOL. you'd think one of every 2 or 3 punts would get nailed, but alas... no.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Yeah the kid we have back there isn't it.
Dec 25, 2024, 9:22 AM
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Campus Hero [13768]
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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The problem is the experiment didn’t work. He tried to promote from within as something different than what got him to the top. He went out and hired the best position coaches and coordinators money could buy. It worked well. Fast forward to where he starts bringing in ex players and promoting GA or analyst to big time roles. This isn’t a coaching developmental league. It’s a results league. I’m not happy losing four games a year. No one is. That’s Bowden territory.
So, no thank you. I don’t want a participation trophy. I want to kick down the door and take it all (Natty). Applauding something that sporadically works is a bad look. It’s like saying my truck is great it only breaks down 20% of the time. That means somethings wrong. Gotta fix it. Fine running Wes Goodwin and the coaching deficiencies will take years. Again, no thank you.
Yes, it’s great to be a Tiger and we played our hearts out on offense while Texas just ran another long TD as I type his. We proved we are pretty good. Just not good enough. That may be good enough for you, it isn’t for me. If Goodwin was my investment guy he’d have been fired three years ago.
Merry Christmas to you and yours. What I can agree with is that regardless of view, we all love Clemson. Well, most of us.
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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Very well said in my opinion. My biggest pet peeve with Dabo is being told that I should be satisfied with everything. I can be happy with certain aspects, and still have issues with others. I feel like there are times that he criticizes the fan base because we don't applaud everything, despite my view that much of it is coach speak that he doesn't even believe.
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I get caught up after losses in the emotion of the moment. I’m not a Dabo hater. Respect him very much. He tweaks his HS NIL and portal stances and keeps making Luke type hires this team can be elite again. What gets to me is that many peopke on this board are so critical of so many coaches and players and just give Dabo a pass. Happens all the time. And when someone points out Dabo’s big role in it all they are called coots and such. I was new to the board when we promoted Streeter and Wes and some were skeptical and boy were they right. It’s okay, Dabo is an all time great but has had bad 4 years. Here’s to him fixing it and excited for next years team.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I'll take your word that someone is telling everyone
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to be satisfied with everything. I've never heard him or anyone else say that. I've heard him say that winning is hard and when it happens it should be enjoyed. And that being grateful for the opportunity just to compete is a virtuous habit.
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Standout [237]
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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When the boss makes 11 mil a year at a school the size of Clemson maybe there isn’t enough left over to pay big time coordinators. Things were different when he was pulling in 5 or 6 mil a year.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Alot of things were different back then.
Dec 23, 2024, 2:42 PM
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Including college football itself.
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Paw Master [17705]
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Yeah, you posted under a different handle***
Dec 23, 2024, 9:24 PM
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I am flattered by your obsession with me.
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And hope you have a Merry Christmas.
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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There is plenty of money for big time coordinators.
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Our assistant coach salaries this year rank third nationally.
We have plenty of money, and Dabo spends it - just not very well.
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Re: There is plenty of money for big time coordinators.
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Does brownell have good 🐱
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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You do realize Dabo was himself an "experiment"
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for several years there in the beginning. And it has worked out quite well.
And that I readily admit he may have forgotten more than I'll ever know about football/coaching football is not the same as being satisfied with losing. It's just self-awareness.
And a football team is not a pickup truck. LOL.
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I truly believe Dabos greatest attribute is not his tactical acumen or coaching prowess, his greatest talent is identifying the right people to put in the right spots and then serving as a figurehead. At our pinnacle, he nailed this approach. Currently, he has missed on several hires in my opinion. Streeter, Spiller, and Wes hVe all proven to be underwhelming. The jury is out on Grisham/Riley. How do we have so many talented RBs and yet none are actually capable of meaningful snaps? We have to play a backup WR at RB or play a player completely unable to contribute due to injury? I believe Venables covered for a lot of the coaching deficiencies of Dabo, as did the team of Scott/Elliott. Dabo is at his best as a manager, leader, and administrator. This coupled with his slowly evolving mentality on NIL and the portal have lead to our decline. Big picture, 4 wins for 11million a year isnt a good season.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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He's worth many times his salary in
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terms of brand alignment and equity, which is crucial to Clemson's ability to attract and retain donors, which is in turn crucial to Clemson's ability to attract and retain both talented players and staff.
In other words, he's the rising water that has lifted all ships.
But since so many of you think of his compensation in terms of horse races:
They won 10 games (again). (And were one of only 13 P4 programs to accomplish that this season.)
The were in the hunt for a national title (again).
They won the league (again).
That they didn't win enough games to suit you, or didn't win those games in a way that passes your eye test, is probably not something that comes up when he sits down to talk with his bosses about his future employment status.
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10 wins in The ACC is an empty accomplishment. The fact we had an 0-3 record against the SEC this year proves our record is smoke and mirrors. If the ACC continues with it's current trajectory, it's only a matter of time before the BIG10/SEC negotiate to get rid of auto bids for conference champs as a maneuver to place more of their teams in the playoff. If best is the standard losing to Louisville, SC, 0-3 to the SEC, and an incredibly underwhelming recruiting effort is not living up to that standard. Do I want Dabo gone...no. However, to say the problems with this program aren't many and prevalent is absurd. Our LB depth next year will be even worse, we're pinning our hopes on a Wr convert at RB, and if Cade opts out our offense is really toast. This doesn't even take into account the huge elephant in the room that is the failed project of Wes at DC. The sky is not falling, but neither is Dabo infallible. We lucked our way into the playoffs with help from Syracuse, beat a decent but not great SMU team, and got shown we aren't close to elite by Texas. Changes need to be made.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Unfortunately for you,
Dec 25, 2024, 9:26 AM
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seven athletic directors, three former head coaches, two former players, and a pretty respected former football writer completely disagree with you on most all of your points.
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We got our playoff spot due to winning the ACC, not our Strength of Schedule or Record. Heck, SMU was even granted a higher seed than us even tbough we beat them and won the conference title. This speaks volumes to the fact that the committee considered us the weakest of the 12 teams. How about the fact that Boise St was given a bye week and they are not even a Power 4 program? The committee was left with no choice but to include Clemson as a conference champ. I hate to admit it but Kiffin was probably correct in stating Ole Miss deserved a spot over us, same can even be said for USC (that's painful to type). Considering the ACCs two teams pretty much crapped the bed in the playoffs I can very much see the auto-bids for conference champs being discarded in the years to come. The Big10/SEC are the driving engine in college football, if they want to see auto-bids go away in an attempt to allow for my of their teams the it will be done. Heck, last year FSU was cast aside as a champion, granted that was a different system.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Kiffin should probably win more and tweet less
Dec 26, 2024, 5:58 PM
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if he wants a spot in the playoff.
Clemson is in the ACC. Clemson won the ACC. So Clemson made the CFP.
Where they were seeded, what the committee thought of SMU, or Boise State's bye week had no bearing on the fact that Clemson is in the ACC, Clemson won the ACC, and Clemson therefore made the CFP.
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100% correct. Is it not at least a little bit telling that as of tonight the ACC is 0-5 in bowl games (including a loss to Toledo)? 0-2 in the playoffs? Neither playoff game was competitive? The ACC is a joke. It stinks, but its true. The longer Clemson stays, the wider the gap will grow. Winning 10 games and a conference champ in this league was great when we could back it up by beating out of conference opponents. Let's face it, we played 3 P4 out of conference opponents and lost all 3. Most of our wins were against inferior teams. Our record was inflated by playing a weak schedule. The fact that we lost to every good team we played except another ACC foe (SMU) is proof of this. Kiffin is a turd, I dont like him, but the ACC hasn't exactly made his comments ring untrue.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Normally I'd say you've made a valid point.
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But given the portal/bowl opt-outs, it's probably impossible now to determine whether the ACC's 0-5 bowl record is evidence that the ACC is worse than the MAC, for example, or just the natural consequence of reducing non-CFP bowl games to scrimmages.
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Fair point, but as long as the ACC is a second rate financial league the results will keep coming in negatively. Pittsburgh, the team Clemson barely bear while they had a backup QB just lost to Toledo. I'd be lying if I said I knew how many transfers or opt-outs Pitt was dealing with. Still, losing to a non-power 4 team doesn't bode well. SMU and Clemson didn't exactly show out in the playoff, and as I type this GT is losing to Vandy. Point is, the ACC is a mess.
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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Dec 22, 2024, 10:47 AM
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I am with you, A1ASauce. Certainly didn’t like the outcomes of four games, thought we had real weaknesses visible in some of our wins, too. This team never gave up and kept fighting.
I expect Coach Swinney will make some staff changes, but I am going to support him, the team, and the University 110% no matter what the future brings. Go Tigers!
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
Dec 24, 2024, 1:57 PM
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I think the problem lies with this logic. Being critical of the direction and season does not equate to not supporting the team. Quite the opposite in fact. If we want Clemson to be elite, and expect them to be elite, then being happy with Medicare results will not return us to elite status. Clemson arguably finished as the 12th best team in college football this season. By any measure 12th is a good, not great season. We have not been elite in over 4 seasons.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Four whole seasons?
Dec 27, 2024, 5:27 PM
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Tha horror.
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Re: Four whole seasons?
Dec 27, 2024, 6:07 PM
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How many season in a row in your mind before it becomes a trend? I think based on this years recruiting effort the last 4 years are impacting more than just results on the field. I don't want Dabo gone...unless he continues on this path. The ugly truth is Clemson can't compete with elite teams as it currently stands. These results are playing out on the field.
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Game Day Hero [4406]
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If we're talking rock bands of Brittania..
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Dec 22, 2024, 10:58 AM
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I much prefer The Who
Otherwise, pump away baby, pump it.
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CU Guru [1542]
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Re: If we're talking rock bands of Brittania..
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Loved The Who. Also Wishbone Ash who I saw in Littlejohn in the early 70s as the warmup band for The Allman Brothers...
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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Dec 22, 2024, 11:20 AM
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I think we all just wish he'd get on with it...
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MVP [531]
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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Dec 22, 2024, 11:33 AM
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Great post. I've loved Dabo from before he became our HC. His post game pressers always get me. Hearing the passion in his voice when he says how much of a blessing "doing life" with his guys is just another example of who he is as a leader of men. Go Tigers!!
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Paw Master [17705]
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Good Lord, that's pitiful...I can see why you would use your scok to post that***
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Re: Good Lord, that's pitiful...I can see why you would use your scok to post that***
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Dec 23, 2024, 3:47 PM
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Dabo lost to all 3 sec teams he played this year and one of them was the stinking coots…but he still says we had a great season? Talk about a loser mentality…they we as a fanbase cannot buy into! Sorry dabo we expect more for $11m!
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All-TigerNet [5771]
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Re: Good Lord, ....well two of them,,,
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Dec 23, 2024, 10:00 PM
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played in the sec championship, and the third one could beat most anyone on any given day, .. a loss is a loss but if you are gonna build a narrative, then tell all the facts...
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Commissioner [1228]
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Re: Dabo's job is to win the ACC, not the SEC.
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Dec 24, 2024, 11:46 AM
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Yes we can talk about history all day long, but most recruits don't remember those times as they were in middle school when we were dominating. If you look at just this decade alone (Jan '20-Dec '24) We are 2-7 vs the SEC and 0-1 against the B1G. Overall we are 2-8 vs what is considered the premier conferences in CFB today. Changes need to be made on the Defensive side of the ball and even some on the offensive side of the ball. One thing has been going up, our coaches pay, meanwhile the results have been going down. Something needs to change.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Dabo's job is to win the ACC, not the SEC. Or B1G.
Dec 24, 2024, 12:10 PM
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I haven't done enough research to say coaching salaries are only going up at Clemson. I think probably it's more accurate to say elite coaches are commanding more and more money in general.
I can agree that I'd like to see Clemson back in the national championship and am grateful they came so close to being there again this year.
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Re: Dabo's job is to win the ACC, not the SEC. Or B1G.
Dec 24, 2024, 1:53 PM
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We came close? By basic logic we finished as the 12th best team in the country. That's not close to the national title.
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Game Changer [1603]
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We were ranked 16th before losing to Texas.***
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Head Coach [930]
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Re: We were ranked 16th before losing to Texas.***
Dec 24, 2024, 3:17 PM
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Even worse
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Head Coach [930]
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Re: Your defintion of basic logic
Dec 25, 2024, 12:51 PM
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Probably so
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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You mean Dabos dominance of the SEC last decade?
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That doesn’t matter much now.
This decade, Dabo is 3-6 against the SEC. That would be in the bottom half of the conference for sure.
But if you want to reminisce on previous history while ignoring the current reality, go ahead.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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But Clemson is in the ACC.
Dec 26, 2024, 6:03 PM
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When or if Clemson ever joins the SEC, I'll start caring about their record against SEC teams.
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Head Coach [930]
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Re: But Clemson is in the ACC.
Dec 27, 2024, 12:49 AM
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Considering the SEC knocked us out of the playoffs, you should probably care a little bit. Considering our rival is in the SEC, you should probably care a little bit. Considering that the SEC has won the overwhelming majority of championships in the last 20 years and will probably win again this year, you should care a little bit.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Ok.
Dec 27, 2024, 5:29 PM
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This is me caring a little bit.
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Head Coach [930]
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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It's probably more accurate
Dec 25, 2024, 9:45 AM
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to say Dabo's job is to put Clemson *in position to win it all.
It is entirely inaccurate to say that's what "Best is the standard," means.
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Head Coach [930]
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Re: It's probably more accurate
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Dec 25, 2024, 1:04 PM
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Best means finishing in first. The 'Best' team is the one who wins it all, period. Nobody would argue 'Best' means finishing in the Top 15 with 4 losses. If the 'Best' Clemson can strive for is 4 loss seasons and a 12 out of 12 seed in the playoffs then we no longer need to pay a 'Best is the Standard' salary level or contribute to Clemson athletics.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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email: iptay@clemson.edu
Dec 26, 2024, 6:05 PM
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to inquire about how you can stop paying Best is Standard prices.
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Rock Defender [50]
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Yes. And they were *fan*tast*ic*
Dec 26, 2024, 6:05 PM
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Paw Master [17705]
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No obsession, just continual amusement that you change your handle but not your
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Dec 23, 2024, 9:35 PM
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behavior
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I am flattered by your continual amusement with me.
Dec 24, 2024, 12:15 PM
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And hope that in 2025, you find a way to become a source of continual amusement for someone as I am for you.
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Paw Master [17705]
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I hope you don't have to abandon another handle in 2025***
Dec 25, 2024, 2:25 AM
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I am flattered by your obsession with me.
Dec 25, 2024, 12:01 PM
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And I hope you have a Happy New Year.
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Paw Master [17705]
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I'm amused that you can't shake it...Tell me what your handle was an I never ask
Dec 26, 2024, 3:46 PM
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again...otherwise, you will see the same question every time you trot your sad act out here
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I am flattered by your obsession with me.
Dec 26, 2024, 6:06 PM
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And hope you have a Happy New Year's.
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Paw Master [17705]
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I just love outing scoks...you can end it anytime with a simple response***
Dec 26, 2024, 6:09 PM
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Right. And calling another man a coward
Dec 25, 2024, 12:00 PM
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from the comfort of your keyboard is the height of courage.
You've been fairly well behaved up to this point. I am surprised at you.
Merry Christmas!
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Heisman Winner [83946]
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I like the analogy, but the dumpers are sure to tell you John "Bonzo" Bonham
Dec 23, 2024, 4:47 PM
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is dead, and not coming back.
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Tiger Titan [49750]
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Sounds like you are happy with moral victories.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:55 PM
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And expect the rest of us to be also.
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Only when it comes to basketball***
Dec 23, 2024, 9:08 PM
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Paw Master [17705]
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Then why do you still whine so much during basketball season?***
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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I am flattered by your obsession with me.
Dec 24, 2024, 11:14 AM
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And I hope you have a Merry Christmas.
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Paw Master [17503]
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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One of the Best Post !!! You nailed it !!!
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Merry Christmas!
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Legend [6658]
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Re: From the Desk of a Dabo Apologist
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Agree. It takes a unique coach to keep Clemson competitive(Howard Ford Sweeney). They don’t come along often says this 77 year old that has been following the tigers since age 10 before Jim Phillips came along and before we had upper decks or a west end zone except in it a high school score board. Trust Dabo and support him as you don’t want to wander in the wilderness hoping to be bowl eligible every year. I’ve been there done that. Give Dabo time to figure out this Wild West show and to learn from his own mistakes he has made. Think of all the top college teams that did not play in a conference championship game or even taste the playoffs. BE HAPPY DONT WORRY🙋♂️😁
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Game Day Hero [4346]
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Merry Christmas!
Dec 25, 2024, 12:01 PM
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