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Dynasty Maker [3147]
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For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 2:39 PM
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It was planned before hand that he would sit out the second half and he was coaching his backup on the sideline.
This narrative that he broke a record and proceeded to quit on his team is just false.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 2:47 PM
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It's still a bad look and always will be, especially the way they post. It's a selfish move, it just is and goes against the team concept.
Now you could argue he sacrificed for the future of the team by letting the backup play, but I don't see it that way. Otherwise. Every bowlgame starter should do the same.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:00 PM
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You sound like that makes it ok? Well, it’s still crap and that will be his legacy for life.
He’s a very highly payed person to PLAY football, not quit on your team at halftime.
Anyone justifying this crap needs to wake up and get a life.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:01 PM
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This reply was meant for the original post not the reply. Sorry.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:42 PM
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Why is it okay to sit out an entire game but not second half. His career is put in jeopardy by playing at all. I see no problem with playing or sitting. It’s his choice.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:55 PM
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Because playing a half deflates the argument that he's doing it for his safety. Why is it more risky to get injured the second half?
He wanted the record, didn't care about the team winning, and it shows.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 6:09 PM
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Bro it was the pop tarts bowl. These second rate bowl games are more for next years players anyway.
I say kudos to him for breaking the record and proceeeding to coach his teammate up for next year trying to get a win.
I think people like you just look for a reason to bash someone. It’s part of the negativity that surrounds sports.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 8:53 PM
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If the attitude was “bro it’s the pop tarts bowl”, then why did he play at all?
Answer: for selfish reasons
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 9:39 PM
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It’s selfish to go after ncaa records. Got it.
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Re: While you're right..
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Dec 30, 2024, 9:41 PM
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It’s selfish to use your teammates to help you achieve an individual record and then quit on those same teammates in the same game.
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Re: While you're right..
Dec 30, 2024, 10:04 PM
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I would imagine the coaching staff wanted to get next years QB some reps, and I’d be interested to know how many of this years departing starters played the second half.
Also if I was the kids coach I would definitely encourage the kid to go for the NCAA record before hanging up his college jersey, but I guess that’s just me.
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Re: While you're right..
Dec 30, 2024, 11:12 PM
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No it’s not just you.
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I'm bashing Cristobal.
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1. The story that the coaches wanted to evaluate the back up doesn't pass the laugh test.
2. I'm confident the plan was made during preparations that Ward would play at least until he broke the TD record and if he broke it in the first half then he wouldn't play the second half. I am confident that Ward and Cristobal knew that was the plan before the game started. It wasn't something Ward decided on during the game.
3. Cristobal is an imbocile for not just admitting this in the post game presser and saying essentially, "The decision was made in private and I'm not gonna discuss it." That leaves open the possibility that Cam quit on his team. Cristobal essentially threw the guy who saved his job under the bus.
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Re: I'm bashing Cristobal.
Dec 30, 2024, 5:45 PM
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Ooops.
I made a new post on the very subject which you so succinctly expressed in your post (above).
Props to you for recognizing what should be obvious to everyone, but yet apparently isn’t.
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Re: I'm bashing Cristobal.
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Dec 30, 2024, 6:13 PM
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Crystalball is a big doofus. Oregon and Nike are thanking their lucky stars that he left for da u.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 2:50 PM
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The announcers apparently didn't know because they kept talking about him like he's the second coming of Patrick Mahomes.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 4:01 PM
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ESPN anointed him in the start of the season for Heisman and no matter how bad he was the rode with it. Not that they are agenda driven or anything.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 6:10 PM
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Wait I thought ESPN was all about the SEC?
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 8:39 PM
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Big Dog wants to have Cam Ward’s baby.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:03 PM
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Show proof that this was pre planned.
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Orange Immortal [66985]
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sounds like they pre-planned enough time to break the record, then quit.
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:52 PM
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Doesn't make it look any better. Only an idiot dog would think otherwise.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:06 PM
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I’m sure that was the plan, unless he didn’t break the record in the first half lol.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:11 PM
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More BS.
Similar to your last points which made no sense...why couldn't Ward have coached his backup in the first half, too?
I don't care who made the decision. QB, Coach, Mom and Dad...the optics are terrible and there's no valid explanation.
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:32 PM
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I think we should all get used to these antics...don't have to like it, but it is college football in today's world. I am thinking the La Vegas oddsmakers and the gamblers must be really be pi**. I am pretty sure Miami's QB switch had an unplanned effect on the $$$ outcome for the game...anybody agree??
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:40 PM
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Did the Miami fans that paid to go to the game know that he was going to quit during the game? What about DRad, was he aware?
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:42 PM
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Regardless if it was planned, a true competitor would have sacrificed anything to get his team a W. It was pure selfishness, plain and simple. I am assuming he probably also cost the coaches a bonus as well. I imagine their contract has a bonus for a bowl win.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 6:14 PM
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A true competitor? Lol.
Dude holds the NCAA record for TD passes. Pretty sure he’s a competitor.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 8:54 PM
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Competitors don’t quit.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 3:44 PM
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He is making over 2.1 millions in NIL to be Miami’s QB. I pretty sure that money is being paid for him to play not stand on the bench & coach up his backup.
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:45 PM
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That backup will still be the backup next year after they bring in another hired gun, getting him some coaching is laughable.If any of that was true, Cristobal wouldn’t have had trouble telling people that at the postgame press conference, instead he gave the typical response ( we will keep those conversations private) what a joke he and that program are.
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Valley Protector [1465]
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Can't wait to see his NFL contract.
Cam will play the first half of the Super Bowl unless he is up for contract negotiations the following year. At which time he will take himself out of the game so as not to jeopardize his NFL future.
He will be more than happy to stay at said game to offer advice and any coaching necessary to the team's backup QB.
sounds legit.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 6:17 PM
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It’s common place for NFL players to sit once meaningful play has stopped for a variety reasons.
Could be that a team no longer has a chance at the playoffs. You gonna play your franchise QB when you are 4-10? You wouldn’t last long as an NFL coach.
Cam Ward is about to be drafted as possibly the number one pick and you want him grinding it out to win the Pop Tarts Bowl.
Laughable.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 7:04 PM
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If I'm a Miami fan who paid thousands of dollars for the booster club and bowl tickets, then yes.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 8:47 PM
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For the NFL franchise, the QB is commonly possessed if a multi-year contract that isn’t constrained by terms which take into account the college’s academic parameters.
The NFL team’s best decision (for the team’s business interests, not the player’s) is to protect the QB.
College is an entirely different deal. CFB teams are reliant to some degree on low-NIL paid FB players. Esprit de corps means a lot more to CFB players than NFL players (all of whom are paid middle salaries at the very least).
Thus, the comparison between the best interests of a CFB team and a NFL team is deeply flawed.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 8:55 PM
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Again, hypocritical nonsense from you. If the team shouldn’t have played him, why did he play?
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 31, 2024, 7:49 AM
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Thanks for the laughable, that was the intent.
Personally, I couldn't give two shiats what Cam Ward or Miami do. What was on display was the definitive "Ima git mine" culture the college football has chosen to embrace. How any player could in good conscience stand on the sidelines while his TEAM was trying to win a game is beyond me. If he was indeed protecting his assets, he probably should have been at home, in the gym or at least someplace else. But no, he chose (and Miami endorsed) to have at least one more first half show. Did that up his value?
A lot of people say that these bowl games don't mean anything. Nonsense. They mean something to somebody. Cam Ward and the University of Miami said we don't care what it means.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 31, 2024, 7:57 AM
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What is laughable is that you claim to know anything about college or professional football. I have see NFL teams with 3 touchdown lead have their starter in at the end of a game in victory formation .......
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 4:56 PM
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He quit before he took the field. Yeah, he played for a bit, but it was a planned publicity event for him. He didn't care whether his team won or lost, so long as he got his record and his cash.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 8:49 PM
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If indeed Cam was banking on his 2nd half opt-out move as creating favorable publicity, then boy oh boy was he wrong.
Cam should fire his agent because his agent didn’t talk him out of such a stupid idea.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 4:58 PM
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Loser…
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Paw Warrior [4887]
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 5:07 PM
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I thought their players fighting (amongst themselves) on the sidelines was more embarrassing for the team as a program. Typical Miami madness.
Message was edited by: Stillapirate®
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 8:51 PM
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Various Miami team factions battling opt out (not entirely in the metaphorical sense) to be the biggest fools.
Cristobal and Miami are meant for each other.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 5:08 PM
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It is pathetic —no way else to look at it
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Why would Mario agree to this?
Dec 30, 2024, 5:39 PM
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Either you're all in and want to play to win the game or you're not. If he just agreed to stay in until he broke the record, then it was all about him and nothing about the team. I don't think you'll ever convince me otherwise.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
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Dec 30, 2024, 5:46 PM
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Then don't play at all. Say what you want he got his record then sat. I bet if he was 5 yards short at half time he would have played until he got it.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 8:50 PM
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Gtfo with this narrative.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 9:15 PM
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He and his coaches let him quit on his team after winning an individual award. That is absolute trash imo. We play on a team for your teammates. That's how it should be imo and I will never change my mind.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 9:16 PM
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who cared if it was decided beforehand? still selfish and he deserves all the criticism he is getting
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 30, 2024, 9:16 PM
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It’s still crap
He was standing there on the sideline watching, while the backup couldn’t drive the ball down the field on the last drive.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 31, 2024, 8:03 AM
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Not false he did quit on his team. He just happened to prove, in the process, that Mario is quite possibly the worst and dumbest football coach in America.
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Re: For those of you bashing Cam Ward
Dec 31, 2024, 8:12 AM
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This is so messed up. First, if the coach knew then he should have never played the first half. Second, how do you think those offensive linemen felt when they ran off the field and saw their star quarterback holding a clipboard. Don't step on the field if you aren't willing to give everything you got. If it's a meaningless game then nobody should have played.
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