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For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
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Jan 14, 2025, 9:47 AM
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We're 1-0 vs. Penn St. There is your answer. It's a step up for any coach and/or player.
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:15 AM
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Well, that game was 45 or so years ago when Danny and the boys kicked Joe Pa in Orlando so there is no relevance to today. We will know how lateral the move is when the contract details are released.
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:26 AM
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It was stated he was making 1.4 mill at Penn St. It wouldn't surprise me to see him get something in the 2's with incentives for his first contract with us.
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Definitely a step up.***
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Especially since PSU seems to be on the verge of running their coach out of town
Jan 19, 2025, 10:46 AM
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... even AFTER he just made it to the semis.
Much like OSU, Penn St seems to be looking for a reason to get rid of their guy, even as they sat on the doorstep of a natty.
This was a good year for them, but if they repeat it once or twice more without making the championship game, I bet they get rid of Franklin.
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In chess, lateral moves are sometimes required.
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:34 AM
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And they're often winning moves.
And Dabo Swinney is playing next-level chess.
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Do you think we are better than Penn State right now?
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:44 AM
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Because I don't.
I think they would've beaten us by double digits.
There's your answer.
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LOL.***
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:45 AM
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Re: Do you think we are better than Penn State right now?
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:51 AM
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Vanderbilt. Sorry typo.
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Of course it is possible for us to beat them.
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:32 PM
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But considering the fact that it's been a few years since we've beaten a team ranked as highly as they are, beating them now isn't likely is it?
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Touche***
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We are better than all but about 15-20 college football teams right now.
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:34 PM
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Unfortunately Penn State is in ranked highly in that group of 15-20.
I don't understand why some of you are seemingly unable to be objective in these types of discussions.
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Being objective isn't thinking the worst.
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:35 PM
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If we played Penn State in football in these playoffs, they would be favored. Probably by at least a touchdown.
It doesn't mean that we couldn't possibly beat them, but Vegas would say that Penn State is expected to win fairly easily.
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How is it narrow minded to say that Penn State is currently a better program?***
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:36 PM
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We got everything we need and now have a DC
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Jan 14, 2025, 3:24 PM
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We fixed our glaring weakness and now can compete with anyone. We were a DC away from advancing in the playoffs. With a DC, you don’t know if PSU would be favored.
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Re: Do you think we are better than Penn State right now?
Jan 14, 2025, 3:28 PM
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That’s why change is necessary. We wouldn’t have improved without change
Say it again for the people in the back!!!
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100% - Penn State is a poverty program
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:46 AM
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and doesn’t come close to stacking up next to Clemson. We’re all about championships here, and they’re about diddling kids. If they were serious about football they’d hire a real coach instead of a reject from Vandy. Plus the B1G can’t comprehend what it takes to win in the ACC and how to compete with ACC speed. But Ohio State is about to find out when Noter Dame flexes that ACC talent.
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I think we have a chance to be better by hiring him.
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Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 AM
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It speaks to the overall quality of our program to poach him from PSU imo. We may pay him more in the end, and we may tack some incentives and a ‘co-‘ title onto his responsibilities. But in the end he’s coming to Clemson as a DC. So that’s a lateral title move in my book.
If he helps us get back to stuffing the run, increasing our TFL numbers, sacking the QB, and not letting Sellars run around like he owns the place, I’ll be very, very excited.
Let’s get back to dominating on defense!!!
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It's a lateral move for sure the way I see it,
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Jan 14, 2025, 11:04 AM
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though I don't think it matters one way or the other really. Allen seems like a great fit here - Dabo wouldn't go after him if he weren't, and Allen wouldn't be coming if he didn't believe the same. It's a win for Clemson and that's good for me.
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
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Jan 14, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Living in Clemson is obviously better. If I had 2 million dollars or wherever he is getting and had to chart my life out, I would feel like a fool to live in University Park, Pennsylvania compared to Clemson, SC.
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
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Jan 14, 2025, 12:34 PM
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Living in Clemson is obviously better. If I had 2 million dollars or wherever he is getting and had to chart my life out, I would feel like a fool to live in University Park, Pennsylvania compared to Clemson, SC.
Have you ever been to State College, or for that matter, out of Pickens County?
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:04 PM
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Well, I was born and raised in California, so yes. I live in NC now. I have also been to every state in the country aside from Alaska. Yes, imo, I would much rather live in SC opposed to living in PA.
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I have lived in both places...
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:37 PM
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Pluses and minuses for both. I enjoyed my time there and love going back to visit. The summer weather is great. Arts fest. Wing fest.
But central PA is in the absolute middle of nowhere and no very diverse. I, as a black woman, struggled to find a place to get my hair done! I ended up coming back home (Clemson).
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The position is lateral but working for Dabo rather than Franklin is far, far...
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Jan 14, 2025, 12:34 PM
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away from a lateral move. How many nation championships has Franklin? Me reminds you PSU is one of the media's historical bluebloods. Evidently ruining children's lives isn't a factor the media considers.
No, I haven't forgotten and I'll never forget.
BTW, I know that post was a troll post for PSU lurkers.
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Re: The position is lateral but working for Dabo rather than Franklin is far, far...
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:02 PM
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Dear ClemsonTiger1988®,
I don’t know what has happened to TNet, but you may be the only responder in this entire thread to recognize that the OP was trolling Penn State lurkers.
BTW, I haven’t forgotten, either. Many of the same big $$$ Penn State supporters who funded the PSU football program of the Joe Ped years are still pumping money into the Penn State FB program if today.
I mean, even the Epstein Island clients have disavowed any involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. Who would have imagined that Epstein Island clients have a better moral compass than Penn State boosters?
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No, I got that, I remain supersensitive to the concept that Clemson isn't far...
Jan 19, 2025, 10:14 AM
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away superior to PSU and I quite enjoy reminding everyone that PSU mean Pedophile Supporting University.
You build one bridge but that doesn't make you a bridge builder. Suck one pickle and everyone will call you a pickle sucker.
As far as getting over it, I'll get over it when I die, those victims will get over it when they die.
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
Jan 14, 2025, 12:39 PM
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I don’t think it really matters. His reasons were more than just money and position and I doubt he really cares how it is perceived.
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The only opinions that matter on this topic right now
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Jan 19, 2025, 10:37 AM
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are Dabo's and Tom Allen's.
Allen made 1.7 million at PSU last year.
He's getting 2 million a year at Clemson.
Apparently Dabo and Tom both believe Clemson is an upgrade.
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Lol
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Jan 19, 2025, 10:42 AM
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I didn’t realize how bad Penn State was at football. I bet if Penn State called Wes Goodwin, he wouldn’t even answer.
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That's dumb.
Jan 19, 2025, 3:22 PM
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I mean when they call him to replace that looser head coach's job I bet Wes will have to think long and hard about it.
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
Jan 19, 2025, 12:47 PM
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Does not matter one way or the other as the primary reason he took the job was geography. If Clemson was located in Cali or Texas for example, he would not have taken the job as even Dabo said he was not looking for a change.
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Re: For those debating whether it is a lateral move, Clemson vs Penn St.
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Penn st made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs and we got bounced in the first round….i would say it’s a lateral move at best.
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