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Newsome turned off the fire hydrants...brilliant!!***
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Jan 8, 2025, 3:56 PM
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Orange Immortal [66852]
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They mayor cut $17million from the fire fighters
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Jan 8, 2025, 7:51 PM
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last budget.
She was asked about that and why she was in Ghana as the houses burned and she had zero answers.
Liberals just keep taking losses with no apologies
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Re: They mayor cut $17million from the fire fighters
Jan 8, 2025, 7:57 PM
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Definitely plenty of blame to go around as far as resource mismanagement for sure,. But what I find odd are those pesky 100-mile-an-hour winds whipping through the canyons, bringing desert air in with them, and the persistent drought the Democrats focused their weather modification lasers on.
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Orange Immortal [66852]
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Fire fighters and officials have said
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:11 PM
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for YEARS that with the right winds, LA would burn. Years. Everyone ignored and the forests, especially Sierras (just north of LA) have 5x the growth they should have.
It’s absolutely ludicrous.
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Re: Fire fighters and officials have said
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:16 PM
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Don't try to pretend that you have any idea of what you are talking about.
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Orange Immortal [66852]
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Ok.
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:19 PM
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Sit down.
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Gridiron Giant [15398]
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Re: Ok.
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:22 PM
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As usual you know nothing and have nothing. Don't embarrass yourself anymore. Show yourself some grace and go have some brews and watch fake wrestling. Just be your authentic self.
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Re: Ok.
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:32 PM
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actually, he's right, they have known about the possibility of this, just like Western NC getting 2-3 feet of rain, but we just cross our fingers and do nothing. It takes events like these before municipalities wake up. But I am not sure how much 18 million would have helped in this scenario, they do not have water on hand to fight this thing, and it is too windy to drop water in via plane and helicopter, this is a failure on many levels. I hope it does not turn further south.
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Gridiron Giant [15398]
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Re: Ok.
Jan 8, 2025, 9:23 PM
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I don't think 18 million would have done much at all. That's my point. He wants to make it political. Tell people you are raising their taxes and you need let's say an extra billion for the state and they would lose their minds. It's a can't win situation for the politicians.
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CA spent $Billion$ on illegal immigrants alone... citizen's taxes.***
Jan 9, 2025, 12:02 AM
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Re: CA spent $Billion$ on illegal immigrants alone... citizen's taxes.***
Jan 9, 2025, 12:13 AM
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It would be interesting to see what they added to the economy. That issue is so complex we would people more in the know to break that one down. It seems like a waste, but who knows?
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Re: Fire fighters and officials have said
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:25 PM
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Yes. I am here in LA right now. I am in Studio City. I get the same news you get. The problems with situation, how it came about, and what were the strengths and flaws aren't as simple as you are wishing to make. It's politics for you, but the facts of what is going on you have no idea about. Let's see what is said after the "dust settles". We will see what flaws that being faces in the end.
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Stay safe, man.***
Jan 9, 2025, 7:58 AM
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Re: Nice for you to make a joke of the situation***
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Jan 8, 2025, 9:28 PM
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Who is making a joke of the situation? I have been hanging out with somebody much of the afternoon at my sister's who just took as much as they could in a van and their cars and abandoned their house in Pasadena. The flames were very close to his house. His daughter commented that it was raining. He told her, "No that's the water from the helicopter fighting the fires". Numbnutz wants to make everything political pointing out an 18 million budget cut as the cause for the chaos. He knows nothing about the system out here. Nor do I. It's a massively complex system.
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Re: Meanwhile in Los Angeles...
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Epic fail
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The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
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Jan 8, 2025, 8:46 PM
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Article from 2018 (The Weather Channel) provides the basics of the Santa Ana winds.
In a rare article that doesn’t blame the Santa Ana’s on man made global warming, the strength of the winds are reported as being typically in the 30 to 70 MPH range with occasional 100 MPH winds being recorded historically. There is nothing new in 2025 about Santa Ana winds that weren’t known back in 2018. Back in 2018, the Santa Ana winds historical annual behaviors / year-to-year variances were consistent with their previously documented history.
The current fires in LA and surrounding communities are extraordinarily damaging because (1) bad luck that these January Santa Ana’s are at the high MPH side, (2) City of Los Angeles cut the firefighting budget by ~$17M before the 2025 New Year, (3) a common responsible practice of checking the functioning of municipal fire hydrants was neglected (LA’s DEI fire chief Kristine Crowley added DEI hiring practices with emphasis on increasing the numbers of women and LGBTQ+ firefighters as a top priority; guess they deemphasized checking the fire hydrants), (4) State of California’s decades old practice of stopping the clearance of undergrowth brush / fallen limbs in forests because ‘undergrowth is natural in forests and Californians want things to be natural), and (5) despite being aware that LA’s municipal water system loses billions of gallons of water every year due to leaky pipes, valves, and pumping stations in disrepair, neither the State of California nor the County of Los Angeles have the leadership acumen to spend money in boring stuff such as water systems infrastructure maintenance & repair.
Brainwashed leftists in California, in effect, voted for this catastrophe to occur. Of course leftist politicians everywhere and climate fraud crony capitalists will blame it on Exxon, Chevron, MAGA, and Trump because they know that their constituents are fools and live being lied to. They’ll never take responsibility for their own mismanagement, and one wonders if they’ll ever face political consequences for it.
https://weather.com/science/weather-explainers/news/2018-10-15-santa-ana-winds
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
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Jan 8, 2025, 9:07 PM
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not disagreeing with much, other than blaming it on a political party is ludicrous. And I am not entirely sure how many firefighters and resources it would take to successfully fight this thing, it is beyond any municipality's budget to prepare for something like this.
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
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Jan 8, 2025, 9:19 PM
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Indeed, long term planning & preventive measures are what helps to ameliorate natural disasters.
I’ll grant you that Arnold Terminator was a two term Republican governor of CA during this multiple decades interval of governmental mismanagement. He too wears this Santa Ana fires disaster, even though he’s long been gone as governor.
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
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Jan 8, 2025, 11:44 PM
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I was living out there when Governor Schwarzenegger made budget cuts in the face of a 30 billion dollar that doubled the homeless population in Santa Monica almost overnight. There is no winning attempt to balance the budget out there, but I know he ran deficits. ANd as far as this fire, you could have every fire department in the state involved in it and it would not change anything. No land management s going to prevent when the Sanata annas are blowing 5% humidity at up to 100 mph, and ember could travel 10 miles and light a different area on fire.
I fear this is not going to be good, California has fires of this scale all of the time, but not in a dense area. I had friends in Topanga Canyon, a gorgeous area, but would not want to be there right now. And I wish we could throw the partisan hackery overboard. This si the desert attempting to Reclaim los Angeles, they will run out of water at some point, at least to to the point where they can nto support their current population, and those people will be heading east in the next Decade.
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
Jan 8, 2025, 9:24 PM
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Also agreeing that an effective response to this catastrophe required the State of CA to be involved with coordinating (and funding) preventative / disaster preparation measures.
It’s not as if State of California was ignorant of the Santa Ana winds and their potential to do what’s happened as we’ve seen within the first 8 days of 2025. Hoping that nothing bad happens is not a plan.
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
Jan 8, 2025, 9:31 PM
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They just need 100's of millions more dollars spent and more regulation possibly? That's what some are saying. The politicians can't win.
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
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Jan 8, 2025, 9:38 PM
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The politicians have the money but they #### it away on all kinds of virtue signaling BS instead of spending in on the drudgery of actual governance. Besides, none of them can get rich by laundering forest clearing funds like they can when they spend tens of billions on homeless scams.
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
Jan 8, 2025, 9:42 PM
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Figuring out where to put funding and where to cut is always chaos in places massive like California.
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CA is the land of plenty
Jan 8, 2025, 9:47 PM
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There is infinite money there, right? That is why local politicians make $500k/yr doing effing nothing.
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Re: CA is the land of plenty
Jan 8, 2025, 9:53 PM
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I am not sure what they do as far as jobs, their in pay, and how that money would have stopped this fire situation. Maleficent spending on politics salaries has been a complain for decades in California. I am not sure the impact salary cuts would have impact these wildfires though. It will be interesting to see when all said and done where the blames and solutions fall when the reports are written.
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Re: The Weather Channel (Oct 2018) Santa Ana winds article - 2025 is nothing new
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Jan 8, 2025, 9:36 PM
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California Dems know they can underfunded firefighters, allow forests to become tinderboxes, send the years excess rainfall right into the ocean instead of filling reservoirs, and hire/elect incompetent DEI clowns to run everything and their idiot constituents will blame the invisible man in the sky they call climate change for the resulting calamity. Never doubt the power of brainwashing via a corrupt school system and one party media apparatus to propagandize away the responsibility of the suffering inflicted by the party that controls literally every aspect of life there.
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Reality doesn't matter to the dems
Jan 8, 2025, 9:48 PM
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They can't think beyond the next 60 seconds; they can't even fathom a second order effect.
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Right on cue, the board cretins jump in to make a tragedy political***
Jan 9, 2025, 7:59 AM
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Re: Right on cue, the board cretins jump in to make a tragedy political***
Jan 9, 2025, 8:41 AM
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Not the best time I agree. But to be fair there were plenty of leadership failures that will need to be addressed.
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Re: Right on cue, the board cretins jump in to make a tragedy political***
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Jan 9, 2025, 8:57 AM
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The real cretins who are politicizing this are the ones who are out there pretending this is all because of climate change and that the only way to address wildfires is to raise taxes and drive EVs(among other ridiculous things). They pretend that wildfires are just something that we have to live with and that things like forestry management (which successfully kept wildfires in check for decades) , funding fire departments, maintaining adequate water supplies and making sure you have competent people in charge are irrelevant to the conversation and anyone who dares mention any of them is the real problem. If you want to look at something that's almost entirely a man made climate related disaster then the preparation and response to these fires is exhibit A.
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Re: Right on cue, the board cretins jump in to make a tragedy political***
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Jan 9, 2025, 9:01 AM
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I agree with everything you just said. The forestry management practices out there are just plain stupid. There’s no other way to state it.
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It was analyzed and determined BEFORE the tragedy, but they didn't do anything.***
Jan 9, 2025, 11:19 AM
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