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Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Watch how wide open Antonio comes early from the top of the screen on the drag route across the middle. Cade has absolutely no pressure but still doesn't see it. Then, watch the beautiful adjustment Antonio makes to get wide open again and Cade doesn't see that either. As a result Cade ends up tucking the ball and running for a 2 yd gain. So, frustating.
https://x.com/CDonnick1/status/1792943126853906856
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Yeah that’s pretty bad, especially bc he was rolling out and it was right in front of him
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 23, 2024, 1:49 PM
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Be encouraged. It’s there. Small improvements will make big dividends.
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I'm afraid the next man
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Jun 23, 2024, 2:19 PM
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might be worse than the first man.
Cade needs to continue to:
1) Get game experience.
2) Trust his coaches and the play calls (he's called his own number a few times)
3) See improvement at O Line (we can't get worse here, right)?
4) Have at least 75% of the 2 deep at WR stay healthy the whole year.
If 3 & 4 happen, I think we're going to see Cade get better with experience and the game will slow down for him. At that point, I think he'll trust the play calling more too and stop calling his own number.
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Dynasty Maker [3434]
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You have ZERO basis to say that. You dont know at all.***
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Elite football programs recognize that QB is the most important position
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Jun 24, 2024, 4:15 PM
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in sports, and prioritizes accordingly to ensure that there is always legitimate competition at QB.
Unfortunately, we haven’t been doing that lately. We’ve had several underperforming QBs lately and no one to push them or take over if needed.
Right now, we have Cade who has been disappointing so far. Behind him, we have Vizzina who by all indications is not developing as hoped. We then have walk-ons after that.
This is when I find it maddening that Dabo hasn’t addressed this better through high school recruiting, the transfer portal, or both. No excuse for us to be in this situation.
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DJU in '22 led us to a 7-0 start (13-game winning streak at the time)
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Jun 24, 2024, 6:20 PM
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and was on the Heisman Watch List (top 10) prior to the Syracuse game (he was putting up YTD #'s equal to DW and TL including vs all Atlantic division major rivals). Our backup and depth, that you say here we didn't have, and future starting QB Cade Klubnik came in and led us to a come-from-behind victory in that one to go to 8-0.
We were a CFP Top 4 in their first official ranking that year, and in it until the 1-pointer L to SCar.
Your troll talk of QB's not having someone to push 'lately' spanning years and the clear dig at leadership there is crap. CK2 'took over' in '22 to keep us undefeated in a game, then 'took over' to win the ACC league championship when the starter wasn't performing.
This 'nobody to push' QB is riding the nation's 3rd longest winning streak heading into next year.
Beyond that you're just regurgitating negative narratives du jour as normal.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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That's bc the kid doesn't know where his receivers are supposed to be on the field with each play that is called. If he did, he would've seen how wide open Antonio was over the middle. That says a lot, and what it's saying is that Cade isn't studying our play film, and the QB coach isn't testing him by asking him questions about the plays in the play book. Every play we have in the play book shows the QB where receivers should be on the field with every play, and if the receiver isn't there, the problem is with the receiver and not the QB!!!
I agree on one thing, Dabo needs more on the field coaches bc Cade missing that play was simply bc he doesn't know the plays, and nobody is seeing to it that he does. Trevor knew where his receivers were 99% of the time, and if they weren't there it was the receivers fault, not Trevor's!!! Tajh Boyd was really good at knowing where his receivers should be at on the field!!!
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Theres $2.1 mm that says he should know the plays and how to make them.***
Jun 23, 2024, 2:38 PM
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 23, 2024, 4:38 PM
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There was a big cluster of linemen between him and Antonio on the first opening, Cade couldn't see over or through them.
In the second situation, Cade didn't anticipate Antonio's move to get open and he decided to tuck it and run at the exact same time Antonio made his break.
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Yeah its apparent on certain plays.
Jun 24, 2024, 1:19 PM
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Faking handoffs to no one on several occasions. There was a designed dump off to Shipley last season where Cade forgot the play. Shipley is waiting for the ball while Cade is looking to pass downfield. Cade didn’t even notice that the WRs are setting up their blocks downfield.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 23, 2024, 1:50 PM
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Ding ding ding. And there are LOTS of plays like this last season that don’t show up on the stat sheet. He is so so bad at QB. Kid is way in over his head. He’s a practice guy. He’s not a gamer at all
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 23, 2024, 1:50 PM [ in reply to Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end ]
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Ding ding ding. And there are LOTS of plays like this last season that don’t show up on the stat sheet. He is so so bad at QB. Kid is way in over his head. He’s a practice guy. He’s not a gamer at all
HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD STICK TO ANOTHER SPORT YOU KNOW JACK SQUAT ABOUT. BASEBALL. THAT IS PURE COMEDY.
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Game Changer [1809]
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 9:45 AM
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Good insight old man
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don't worry , Cades golf game is really improving
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Jun 23, 2024, 1:53 PM
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🏌️♂️ this off-season
he's seems always be traveling too
never actually see him practicing football
so i have high confindece his field vision is going to improve because of his mental health leisure . i think he just has all the do die NFL focus needed to go 1st - 3rd round in the NFL
#LIFE AFTER FOOTBALL . Best is not a standard anymore. It's just a Frat Party now
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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As a starter, he was basically a Freshman last year. I do expect to see improvement and more confidence displayed this season. If not, our QB depth will definitely be challenged.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 24, 2024, 1:01 PM
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Cade looked awful in the Spring game. He was not very good
most of last year. However, it was his first time as a starter. Let's
see how much he has leaarned. GA will be a great test for him and
the OL. I am hoping for the best, if not we dang well better have a
plan B ready.
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We dont have a plan B.***
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Jun 24, 2024, 4:17 PM
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What did it look like from the end zone camera behind the QB?
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This ain’t a video game the QB is trying to see past 10-12 giants half of whom are trying to kill him. Anyone can see an open receiver from the high sideline angle camera sitting on the couch. It takes an elite athlete to be able to process that info fast enough to make a play; Cade hasn’t done that often enough yet hopefully he can make a big step this year. But if you’re trying to say that should have been an easy read that anyone could make; it wasn’t.
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Re: What did it look like from the end zone camera behind the QB?
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Jun 23, 2024, 2:11 PM
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It's a roll out. There is no pressure or linemen in front of him at all. Just green grass and Antonio.
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It was a scramble and Williams adjusted his route to the QBs movements
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Jun 23, 2024, 2:16 PM
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Garret Riley made it very clear last year that he was backing off of wide receiver option routes because of the difficulty the QB and wideouts getting on the same page. So when the receiver modified his route it was in response to the defense crashing to the OL to defend the scrambling QB.
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Game Changer [1847]
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So did Cade never play backyard ball?
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Jun 23, 2024, 11:58 PM
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Isn’t that where you learn to quickly recognize where your players are and adapt to changes in their runs? 😄
This reminds me of the same thing that challenged DJ… locking on one receiver and not identifying where the best opportunity is.
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Re: What did it look like from the end zone camera behind the QB?
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Dude what??? 10-12 giants 😆 ok big time exaggeration. It was a roll out with a backside drag. Easy read. Cades bad but you defending him on this play is worse. Get real
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Valley Legend [12290]
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Brochacho it was a scramble and you dont think 5 OLs and 4 DLs who each
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Jun 23, 2024, 2:48 PM
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Weigh between 290 and 330 lbs are giants?
Did Cade and Antonio practice that as an option route (which Riley is only doing sparingly) or was that Williams free lancing?
It was a split second before Cade crosses the line of scrimmage and Williams breaks down field that he woulda had to make a throw. If he makes that play it’s an incredible play not an average one; The ability to make that play is what makes DW4 special.
If they’re not on the same page and the ball gets picked you’re the first person on tigernet calling him a bum.
Things look a lot easier from your barcolounger; I’m betting you couldn’t make that play on Madden.
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Re: Brochacho it was a scramble and you dont think 5 OLs and 4 DLs who each
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So when are there ever 12 players on defense? Legally anyways?
Do all “10-12” players weigh 290-330???
If that’s the case no wonder Antonio was so open TWICE. Man cade can’t even throw on 300 pound defensive backs.
Well he didn’t throw the ball and didn’t get picked and I’m still calling him lousy. Not a bum but he’s bad at QB
You’re entire post is dumb AF
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Reading comprehension is something you need to work on
Jun 24, 2024, 4:53 PM
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I said he had to see over 10-12 giants HALF OF WHOM ARE TRYING TO KILL HIM. 5 offensive linemen and the front 7 on defense. You somehow assumed that all of big guys on the field were defenders; that's tots dumb AF brah.
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Re: What did it look like from the end zone camera behind the QB?
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It's the QB's job to put himself in a position to see past or over the L O S!!! But first he needs to know where his receivers are supposed to be for him to look for them...
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Exactly. If Cade is too short to see over linemen, why did we recruit him?***
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Re: What did it look like from the end zone camera behind the QB?
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Ok...I know I am going to take heat for this but I must ask the same question again...........
" Who evaluated this kid as a 5 star prospect? "It appears the fundamental skills of reading, recognizing and making consistent good decisions at the QB position are lacking. Unless the young man is blessed with some divine infusion of talent starting from the neck up, I don't see a big leap in one season. I hope i am wrong, but the good part is we get to find out where he is real quick on August 31st at 12noon against UGA in the dome.
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Re: What did it look like from the end zone camera behind the QB?
Jun 24, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Not just the mental part either. The physical skills aren’t there. He doesn’t have size, strength, speed. He has straight line speed but qb’s need agility like DW. Cade wobbles and falls when he’s touched. He is too bad in every aspect of the quarterback position to be able to improve in enough areas to be valuable for us
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Throwing a pick in the end zone on 1st and goal
Jun 23, 2024, 2:03 PM
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In the Gator Bowl.
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Re: Throwing a pick in the end zone on 1st and goal
Jun 24, 2024, 2:05 AM
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did you watch the whole video? that whole video was one huge OL failure, they were on him nearly every time rushing 3 and every time rushing 4 unless it was a run play. the last 2 minutes were gold - pure champion grade. Who won that game again??
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Rival Killer [3099]
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Who won they game?
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Jun 24, 2024, 9:55 AM
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The Tigers' defense did. They stink it up for most of the game, than got 3 or 4 turnovers late. If not for that, Kentucky wins.
We were lucky.
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Re: Who won they game?
Jun 24, 2024, 1:26 PM
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Both teams had 4 offensive touchdowns, we also had 3FG's so much for that take because Cade led each of those drives. KY only got one pick in that game and we had one fumble (which cade also recovered), ky had 3 fumbles, 1 by their qb which we recovered along with 1 other but somehow our guy sucks and deserves no credit for 7 successful scoring drives? Yeah, I ain't buying it. The vegas guys had us pegged to win by 3.5pts and we got 3 of those with the "W". We had no defensive scoring but they absolutely did create the opportunity to score, they were great but it does not diminish our offenses work and certainly not CK's. Especially down by 5 points with 2 to go, he was a boss on that drive to grab that win.
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Re: Throwing a pick in the end zone on 1st and goal
Jun 24, 2024, 12:10 PM
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Yes I’ve seen the whole game as we all have. I agree the oline was a total nightmare. I’m pointing out to a specific play. That’s all
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Re: Still can't believe we won that game.
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Mark stoops special. They had the lead and didn’t go for the kill. He’s notorious for that. The final drive Kentucky didn’t blitz once. They sent 4 lineman and sometimes 3 dropping into cover 3/4. They gave Cade time and everything underneath. They gifted us the game. All they had to do was go 2 deep and send 5. We couldn’t block that game and even when we do Cade sucks so
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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>Tuck and run.....the wrong way!
TOL
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 23, 2024, 2:33 PM
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He’s so dumb he doesn’t even remember what down it is in the biggest moments of the biggest games. Throws screens on 3rd and 1. Runs the clock out trying to run up the middle with no timeouts. He’s too bad in every aspect of the position to improve enough in any and all areas
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OK
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Jun 23, 2024, 2:43 PM
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But IMHO in real time, Cade has already taken off by the time Antonio is running open. The defender comes off Antonio to stop Cade's run. That said, there's work to be done. Hopefully, Cade and Riley are putting in the work.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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I just watched the ACCCG between us and NC and Cade looked like a pro
in that game.I don't know what has happened to him since. He has regressed
since that game.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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People see what they want to see. AW is open at the 7 second mark. By the 8 and 9 second mark he is covered. That is 1 second to see him open. Cade is rolling out. AW adjusts and 1 to 2 seconds later Cade is tackled. Game is moving incredibly fast. I don’t think that play is good to indicate anything.
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Yes IrmoTig
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Jun 23, 2024, 4:10 PM
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I just watched the ACCCG between us and NC and Cade looked like a pro
in that game.I don't know what has happened to him since. He has regressed
since that game.
That concerns me. Klubnik arrived with incredible skill sets and has not been developed. Cade owns some of it. And Dabo owns some of it, as he hired and then fired his QB Coach/OC and OL Coach. Here's hoping Cade and Riley get it worked out, and Riley's Offense (not the Clemson Offense) gets on track in 2024 after having to implement a new Offense and all new terminology in 2023. Coaches played so uptight and conservative last year, Klubnik often played more concerned with making a mistake than a big play.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 23, 2024, 3:51 PM
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No doubt what the heck is he looking at...you have to see and make those plays!!!
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Honestly the thing thats the MOST frustrating
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To me about the whole situation is the fact Cade got such limited playing time and snaps when he should have been atleast coming in games for a series or two designed for him to get him in these situations early… especially when DJ was clearly struggling sometimes. And don’t twist words and take it as me saying Cade should have been starting over dj the entire time , not what I’m saying … I’m saying he should have been in games and playing way more snaps than he was and these growing pains would have been accelerated imo
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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jeesh, give it a rest. That was last year, one play. Want to show the ball bounce off Shipley's facemask, or the drops and more drops, or the fumbles, or the break downs in pass blocking?
That is the Miami game right?
3 plays, with 3 and change in the 3d,
1. 50 yard pass to Briningstool
2. Motion penalty on Briningstool, 1st and 15...
3. Cade lays a dime to Briningstool in the end zone, knee hit first ruled a TD
You want to show those plays too?
Clemson up 17-7 followed by what?
Miami 15 play drive end of the 3d qtr and start of the 4th was Cade's fault right?
Cade did not lose a single game on his own last year...
I would put the win vs Kentucky in the bowl largely on his leadership and skills down the shoot.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 23, 2024, 5:39 PM
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Charlie is a Clemson football hater. He is a Judge Keller wanna b and trolls Tiger football every time he gets a chance, especially if it’s Cade. No point in arguing with that dude I think Cade hurt his feelings at some time.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 12:40 PM
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What about at the end of the first half against Miami when Cade ran backwards and got sacked? the ball was on the goal line when he was first touched. It should’ve been a safety, but the referees actually gave us one. Cade is not good
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Jun 24, 2024, 12:54 PM
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Oh wait let’s not forget about NOT handing the ball off to Shipley on 4th and Goal from inches.Cade kept the ball thinking he had any chance of running AROUND the defense when he’s slow as day getting going. He has no acceleration. The coaches called a straight hand off. Their whole reasoning for calling a straight handoff was to NOT give Cade the option to run or throw a screen (make a bad decision) just like he did in OT vs FSU. So what does Cade do? He goes out there with the game on the line and goes rogue AGAIN. Shipley would’ve scored and we would’ve been going for 2 to tie. These are inexcusable mistakes. He’s not gifted in anyway
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 23, 2024, 6:55 PM
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Watch how wide open Antonio comes early from the top of the screen on the drag route across the middle. Cade has absolutely no pressure but still doesn't see it. Then, watch the beautiful adjustment Antonio makes to get wide open again and Cade doesn't see that either. As a result Cade ends up tucking the ball and running for a 2 yd gain. So, frustating. https://x.com/CDonnick1/status/1792943126853906856
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 23, 2024, 6:57 PM
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That’s pretty rough. But it’s little things like that that I think Cade will improve on this year.
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Been trying to tell yall. The issue isnt WRs
Jun 23, 2024, 6:59 PM
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There are open receivers all day in Riley’s offense. It’s simply a matter of the QB being able ti execute the offense. Receivers aren’t the issue.
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Rival Killer [3099]
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I'm pretty sure that Beaux Collins agrees.***
Jun 24, 2024, 10:00 AM
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We'll see that goes for him at Notre Dame.
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eh, it was what it was last year
Jun 23, 2024, 7:40 PM
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Hopefully we see something different this year. A full year of starting CK2s belt should pay some dividends this year. Idk what the leap looks like but it won't have to be much for us to be a 10 win team. Cut down on turnovers and hero ball for him and the OL getting better have us going to the CFP IMO.
At worst, Hebert arrives in January to make things interesting.
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110%er [4017]
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The only play that frustrates me is lack of effort
Jun 23, 2024, 8:53 PM
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anything else is part of the game. They will make good plays and bad plays, but all of them are better than I can do.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 24, 2024, 12:21 AM
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I remember Trevor Lawrence didn't exactly fire out of a canon his first year, he had his share of headscratchers, but had ETN, Ross, Higgins, Rogers, and an Oline that could hold a pocket. He got much better his sophomore year, but the team took a step back when we lost Higgins and ETN, and we have been climbing back up that mountain since. There were a number of busts in recruiting when Scott left, and it eventually showed on the field. The last 2 cycles it seems we have been hitting on our recruits, and while Cade is may not be playing like his 5 star billing he does have the tools, elite speed and mobility for a QB, can make all the throws, and showed considerable improvement as a game manager as the season wore on and the running game improved.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 24, 2024, 9:22 AM
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True, but he still has a tendency to play "hero" ball and make boneheaded decisions when forcing throws, not seeing receivers, and not "feeling" pressure from the edges. That's the frustrating thing--all the tools are there, but he just can't put it together.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 24, 2024, 9:49 AM
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Cade has the same problem DJ had/has, they don’t process information fast enough. Elite Arm strength and mobility can cover up for it ( see Cam Newton early in his career when healthy).
Watch the long pass Trevor threw against A&M or the frozen rope at GA Tech for a TD from the far hash. The receivers were not wide open when the ball left Trevor’s hand but they were open when the ball got there.
Wayne Gretzky once said he was great not because he skated to where the puck was but because he skated to where the puck was going to be. Watson and Trevor were elite talents both physically and mentally. They had the ability to process information and react quickly as well. Have not seen much of the latter from our last two QBs with any consistency.
Pearman looked like the best QB in the Spring game because he got the ball out on time.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 25, 2024, 6:19 PM
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I do not think that is the issue with Cade, not for one second. And the issue with DJ was his mechanics, he could not get the ball out quick enough, and seemed to do his best work when improvising after a play broke down. Give Cade a pocket and some time to throw and he does just fine.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 1:37 PM
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LOL Syracuse. (Thank you, Chase Brice)
Also, Lawrence, easily an all-time Clemson great had a string of interceptions his sophomore year, his 2nd as QB1 because they told him to 'throw more' and eventually it all came together for him. but this again was into his second year as qb1.
cade saved the 2022 Syracuse game and won the ACC Championship game in a huge way when dj would absolutely have lost it.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
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Jun 24, 2024, 9:21 AM
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If I could give this 1,000 TU's, I would. I've been saying this for the last two years---for whatever reason, this kid just can't see the field. If you notice carefully, he's locked onto his primary target and isn't making his progressions. I'm not ready to call him a bust, but if we don't see improvement this year after 2 games, I say it's time to cut our losses on move on.
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His pocket awareness and downfield vision are not good
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Jun 24, 2024, 9:58 AM
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and I don't think experience will help that much. It's mostly innate.
It would be like trying to make me fast, or play the piano. Practice will make me better, but I will never be good at either.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 10:07 AM
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Because his very first read was Stellato and his route was undercut by the safety...Once he saw that he ignored his other progressions in which he had time to roll through...panicked and took off...Thats called ZERO poise....
I dont know what else you people need to see to understand that this kid is not a good QB...He is an athletic DJ...Period.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 12:12 PM
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You and I are gonna get along much better during football season 😆
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 10:32 AM
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So you spend time looking for bad plays on the QB to prove a point that Clemson has a bad decision making Quarterback.Give us a break and start your day on a positive note. I believe he will have a breakout year with a better OL and better receivers. So when he beats Georgia, are you going to give him credit or be a critic?
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 11:03 AM
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The most aggravating one that annoyed me was near the end of the Gator Bowl, when he had the Stool wide open for on a seam route over the middle and he just held it forever and by the time he threw it the entire secondary was there waiting on it.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 2:00 PM
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I went to the bowl game with my brother. It’s so obvious what Cade’s deficiencies are when you watch in person. Hie eyes are bad and he simply can’t see the field.
I’m not sure that can be fixed.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 2:12 PM
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Plays like a dog chasing its tail too many times. Full of energy but can’t harness it in the right way. 👍🏿🐅
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 25, 2024, 1:09 PM
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" The dog that chases his tail will be dizzy. "
- George Clinton (Parliament Funkadelic)
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 24, 2024, 5:11 PM
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Cade is a weakling. I doubt he has the arm strength to make that throw.
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Re: Example of Cade's play that frustrates you to no end
Jun 26, 2024, 4:00 PM
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Mostly I just want CK to pass quickly. If the OLine is improved this year that may not be as important, but last year whenever he had the ball after a three count back there I got worried.
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Not interested - he has won championships and bowl games for Clemson***
Jun 26, 2024, 4:56 PM
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