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TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans
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TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans


Mar 10, 2025, 12:42 PM
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National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans

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Is he still whining and crying about Clemson fans being critical of him while

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Mar 10, 2025, 12:47 PM
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he had a cold? He needs to have his mangina checked if he goes to the doctor for his sniffles.

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Re: Is he still whining and crying about Clemson fans being critical of him while

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Mar 10, 2025, 1:13 PM
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To be fair, it sounds like he might have the flu which has been notoriously awful this season, & we were collectively insulting, misquoted him from Clemson-branded reporting sites, relentlessly filthy-hateful, & as an inescapable legion with engagement again going through the roof because of how we responded.

We love it & go nuts for it regardless of whether or not it's accurate, but the bottom line is we do it so loudly & with so many people that yet another national voice is compelled to respond to the deluge, so to speak (again).

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He basically told the truth, no problem with that at all...


Mar 10, 2025, 5:17 PM
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but I have no time for someone, in front of God & everybody, playing up their cold symptoms in a disgusting, melodramatic ploy for sympathy...right up there with virtue signaling.. it's Herbstreitish-

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Re: He basically told the truth, no problem with that at all...


Mar 10, 2025, 9:40 PM
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Even Clemson radio had to shut down a bunch of shows for a flu outbreak, not to mention our own players missing games for being sick seemingly nearly every season, I wouldn't call any of them melodramatic but I hear you.

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He was "bullied in a chat group by Clemson fans"...


Mar 10, 2025, 10:51 PM
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while in the midst of a life and death struggle...battling the dreaded plague known as the "common cold". In a chat group, not a football game, not straining his vocal chords doing play by play..in a chat group pecking on a keyboard. I enjoy his commentary and overall, if anything, he displays a bias favoring Clemson. A chat group, common cold, my heart bleeds for him..although he may have made the Xtwitter comment in jest.

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Hes an idiot that can not even pronounce

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Mar 10, 2025, 12:47 PM
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Clemson correctly. Clemzen. Get a clue cue ball.

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Re: Hes an idiot that can not even pronounce


Mar 10, 2025, 6:38 PM
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The same people who pronounce Clemson as 'Clempson', pronounce Georgia 'JawJa'.
Not Clemson grads, so it is understandable for cue ball to pronounce it as Clemzen....

The fact that he is paying attention is great, he will pick against us in all playoff scenarios.
That is a safe bet, because there is only one champion..... But that is his point of reference, a Clemson Championship!

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Mar 10, 2025, 12:49 PM
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I usually like him but he's taking this criticism too personally. If you're gonna put out content like that you've got to be able to stand a few arrows coming at you in return.

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No way dude. I can be critical of any 1 in the world


Mar 10, 2025, 2:04 PM
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Cause I has a microphone.

If you are critical of me it is cause you are a moron crybaby.

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We made it personal

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Mar 10, 2025, 2:23 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans ]
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To be fair, we made it personal by making explicitly-personal attacks, misquotes, insults & more en masse again, & we did it to a degree that can't be ignored by anyone for how unique & loud it is across the sport is all.

We insisted on answers & he gave them, we begged him to give solutions & he did, then we executed them (coincidentally, if nothing else) in a recruiting coup in a single day this past weekend vs. on national signing day when this started & we didn't have anywhere near this level of jump (it really was a coup this past weekend, propelling us to #1 in the league).

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Re: We made it personal


Mar 10, 2025, 3:53 PM
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We 🤣

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Stop giving him ammunition. Whiny ### fans make

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Mar 10, 2025, 12:50 PM
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Us all look bad!

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It's not him is all

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Mar 10, 2025, 1:10 PM
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I don't mean to sound cynical, & while I'm with you in not liking how we respond to this stuff so negatively & en masse these days (especially compared to how we used to be collectively seen as the good guys), it's more unique to us as a fan culture than it is to Josh Pate, Ty Hildenbrandt, Greg McElroy, Kirk Herbstreit, et al.

We take all the bait, for sure, but stuff like this when we take it the wrong way, respond negatively & encourage others in Clemson nation to do the same, it's frustrating is all.

This Saturday was a tremendous recruiting coup, but the story is once again something else & I'm with you on it being frustrating, but what can any of us do but celebrate the good stuff?

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There really isn't a 'story' here with Pate.

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Mar 10, 2025, 1:41 PM
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Media blips around media blips don't register, especially when one of the blips is the blipper.

Five highly rated commits from one weekend - that's an actual story.

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It was a huge story regardless


Mar 10, 2025, 2:20 PM
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To be fair, the original response was so severe it was responded to by other national voices responding to his own regarding Clemson nation's attack.

I wish the story was just on how great of a weekend it was (we're now #1 in the league, for example), but the sheer volume of our responses in Clemson nation being ignored this time simply wouldn't make sense is all I meant.

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Herbie earned some good will but the Bomani Affair was a bridge too far(smh)****


Mar 10, 2025, 5:23 PM [ in reply to It's not him is all ]
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Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans

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Mar 10, 2025, 12:57 PM
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I think that 2010 to 2015 compared to today is like comparing Apples to Oranges. A tremendous amount has changed. Since some other teams are buying a championship team now this era to a previous era is not comparable.

Given the recruit commits last week I think Clemson is trending very well and will be a challenge to any team they play. Bring it on and spot the ball.

GO TIGERS

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Mar 10, 2025, 1:06 PM
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Nothing he said was wrong. Clemson will take a dip in 2026. A lot of talent will be lost.

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Maybe


Mar 10, 2025, 1:16 PM
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Maybe Clemson will take a dip in 2026, albeit maybe that's to be expected when replacing literally the most-experienced team in the sport in 2025 & a consensus 5-star QB, among other things.

Still, this recruiting day was an absolute boon, & you can't fake talent. Combine that with what I think is an elite-level coaching staff in nearly every position, a new financial model both internally & with TV revenue, & some legitimate day-one skill talent vs. a very manageable 2026 schedule, the dip in 2026 may me incidental is all. Go Tigers!

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"Fight?"

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Mar 10, 2025, 1:05 PM
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I wouldn't call it a "fight" as it was one-way; it was just us screaming en masse (again) only this time it felt misguided, like we were treating him as if he was Finebaum deliberately picking on us because he knows we'll take the bait.

Ex., he highlighted in one of his response videos to our "fighting" several ways the lack of recruiting on national signing day could be fixed (& explicitly that he hoped it would, & "I want Clemson to win"), & on a single day in early March 3 of those things happened together & frankly like never before.

Look, we didn't have a good national signing day, & responded to it badly, too. I had high hopes for the elite retreat, but I don't think anybody COULD have expected this kind of coup; it's inescapably unique is all, notably for how many 4-star players committed in a single Saturday. I do miss it all being on national signing day because it was fun & so much easier to keep up with, just saying we're all getting used to that day now being relatively meaningless vs. unique, individual program-defined dates that are vastly more determinant, & I love it.

Make no mistake, this Saturday was an absolute coup for recruiting & it's a good thing when the national press is talking about it, just wish we didn't "fight" so much but hey, I'm in my mid-40's so I'm old enough to see the changes & to say "good ol' days" without being cynical. Go Tigers!

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Online sports media host complains about online sports media.


Mar 10, 2025, 1:10 PM
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Classic.

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He did cite Tigernet explicitly


Mar 10, 2025, 1:32 PM
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He did cite Tigernet explicitly, albeit he's not wrong about being literally misquoted here a bunch & with enormous engagement (rather than just being misjudged and/or inaccurate).

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Anyone with an ounce of media credibility knows how this game works.


Mar 10, 2025, 1:48 PM
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Complaining about how a hot take gets reported out and discussed online is lame. If he doesn't know better then he's just a hack. By playing dumb about it - worse.

He also lumps the negative criticism into the 'you obviously didn't listen to the whole piece so how dare you' bucket - which is lame plus a dose of disingenuous.

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You're not wrong


Mar 10, 2025, 2:13 PM
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I hear you, just saying this isn't the first time, the first person, or that's it's not singular in how Clemson nation now so often responds en masse with anger & how that part unique to the sport at-large is all.
We did say things he didn't say (including illegitimate quotes from accredited sources exclusively in Clemson's name), & "negative criticism" is fair, I hear you on that, but that's consequently ignoring the sheer vastness of stuff we said that was negative but far from being fair criticism is all.

And the bottom line he was right; he outlined several concerns, gave explicit & specific examples of how they could be fixed, & we just met those examples in a huge way weeks after national signing day where we hadn't done much, then we did it all in a single 24-hour stretch this past weekend on a gorgeous Saturday.

The Elite Retreat was fantastic, & getting more good national coverage on a Monday where nobody else seems to be getting any may be just as great. Go Tigers!

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I absolutely agree with Josh Pate that if we only bring in


Mar 10, 2025, 2:29 PM
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15 HS kids per year from now on and barely scrape the Top 30 in recruiting rankings that we will not challenge for national titles after 2025. Genius level stuff there. He spun an anomaly as some type of dangerous trend though, and many who know better due to the context of that ranking number disagreed and shared that, some likely more colorful than others.

It's down time for college football. Pate, like most other media folks focused on this sport, have very little to report and gain traffic with. But he has bills to pay when it's not football season, so you go get what you can get.

In his first 'response' diatribe he picked the worst of the worst low hanging fruit to go off on. He is using us, our loyalty, and school spirit to stay relevant in February and March. Now he's apparently using a positive recruiting experience and outpouring to troll and remain in the convo, and he is doing that successfully.

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Absolutely disagree

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Mar 10, 2025, 3:08 PM
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I get the idea people are picking on us for clout, but Pate, and others, too?

Finebaum is one thing; he gives us bait, we take it all & beg for more, but it does feel like we see everyone else as being identical & consequently they get an identical response as legion.

This one, for example, don't forget it was a national signing day video with at least ten other programs in it; Clemson was in the middle, other teams were critiqued as well & several way more harshly, & to deny we responded in a way that was simply fair or critical seems misguided is all.

We don't have to agree, promise, & that's OK, but I think many know where I'm coming from when we mention how Clemson nation used to be defined as optimistic & "the good guys" is all. It was a special time, & a long time at that, but the sheer frequency this stuff happens now has changed what we are, for better or worse, right or wrong, & sometimes it's tough to swallow is all, if that helps add some clarity on where many of us are coming from regarding these kinds of stories.

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FWIW I don't dislike Josh Pate. At all. It's a tough gig to cover college


Mar 10, 2025, 7:15 PM
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football, where passions run high and memories run long. He's come across as largely fair and a student of the game from what I've been exposed to. It's a hard profession to make a living in as well, and he hasn't had to rely on a gimmick to get him where he is, so good for him. I did think it was a poor take on the alarmist side of things when this started, and he certainly knew he'd get some chatter back - that's part of the territory. I was surprised though that he went so low with some ridiculous responses representing the 'fan base' on his follow-up mini-rant, when there was plenty other material around it being shared here that was much more on the discussion side. He supposedly views Tigernet also, so that was a choice he made to push buttons on his show. And honestly, some of what he read then sounded like how some of our resident trolls would come across.

With buttons pushed then, he'll have more opportunities like this past 24 hours to 'trend' more apparently, so he'll probably come out ahead. Hope he's feeling better.

Go Tigers!

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Mar 10, 2025, 1:38 PM
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Gee Josh, who would have ever thought that lies, hearsay and misconception would be spread all over the internet! Glad that only happens in sports! Oh, wait a minute....

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Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans


Mar 10, 2025, 1:48 PM
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Why does anyone post anything related to Josh pate on TNet?

The dude is 100% wannabe relevant.

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Mar 10, 2025, 2:14 PM
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He cited Tigernet by name in the video above, for what it's worth.

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Mar 10, 2025, 1:51 PM
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He literally wrote this response on X:

i've got a genuine cold over here buddy. how bout feeling sorry for me.


I can't imagine being a grown man, with public persona aspirations, whining about his cold and people being mean. He ain't cut out for this line of work.

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Mar 10, 2025, 2:16 PM
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You left out the deluge of angry & hateful things he was responding to, to be fair.

Being sick sucks! This year's flu was absolutely brutal, had to postpone several of our shows because of it, as did Clemson radio.

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Mar 10, 2025, 4:28 PM
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He put himself in the crosshairs, this is what he THOUGHT he wanted. He is the TEMU Jim Rome

I don't feel bad for him in the least. Maybe he shouldn't have done a show with a COLD if he was going to be this weak about it.

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It was a huge story though


Mar 10, 2025, 8:19 PM
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I actually give anyone credit for doing it with a cold, but to be fair it was an absolutely huge story for Clemson & while essentially nobody else in the sport was doing anything worth talking about.

The Elite Retreat was a monster deal, make no mistake.

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"National " analist ?***

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Mar 10, 2025, 2:01 PM
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Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans


Mar 10, 2025, 2:15 PM
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Who gives a blank!

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Clemson nation does


Mar 10, 2025, 2:17 PM
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To be fair, we engaged & responded en masse here in Clemson nation (rather than none of us care) & in a unique way, for better or worse, but certainly as a legion is all I meant.

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En masse? The guy probably heard from a dozen people - tops.


Mar 10, 2025, 2:33 PM
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Maybe 25 actually posted about him here then or since. Are you his publicist or something?

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Way more than 2 dozen, to be clear


Mar 10, 2025, 3:03 PM
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I'm not his publicist (c'mon fam), don't even watch him much, but ignore it being him then as there are countless other examples, that's all I meant.

It was again enough posts with enough misinformation & defamation to be compelled to respond, & while that's also not unique to him, this one also was inescapably vast including from many of the most popular Clemson voices to accredited writers, even including Eric Mac Lain, our guy on the ACC Network responding to it directly again & Clemson trending in engagement on the top-3 platforms overnight.

I don't love it either, but can't pretend it isn't there is all, know what I mean?

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Eric Mac Lain is a Pate peer, and a pro. Not sure what he shared but


Mar 10, 2025, 3:18 PM
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it likely wasn't far from spot on.

I don't believe the rest about the volume of responses and feedback you claim he's gotten. Pate getting over emotional on his sports chat last night and claiming Clemson fan abuse is its own story, not really ours. If that trended somehow, it's due to him manufacturing press and clicks at our expense.

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Mar 10, 2025, 3:24 PM
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OK, I hear you. The implication is I'm not being truthful about the number of responses, and he gets the same stuff from other people in similar situations at least as much & just chose to single us out & isn't being honest when he says he likes Clemson & "I want Clemson to win," but again, I mentioned it's not unique to him or this story & I'm not sure how else to respond; can't likely fake the trending numbers in multiple platforms, for example, but if someone did hate us enough to do that just in case it created more engagement (rather than the engagement creating the trends), it happens enough I'm not sure it's simply misinformation is all, know what I mean?

At the risk of sounding cynical, a quick look will add a lot of that kind of information, & I'm sincerely curious what your thoughts are afterwards rather than taking my word for it (or his). We are absolutely a legion in Clemson nation, make no mistake, & one of the most popular brands in the sport, including Tigernet being one of the top-ratings messageboards for well over a decade now, for sure.

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Mar 10, 2025, 4:24 PM
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Can you provide a link to this chat that he got so abused on? Curious as to the actual number of different Clemson fans he heard from that got him all sideways. As you see often enough on here, there's a few in every crowd.

The exchange itself may be trending - he has a decent following and carries some clout. Clemson Nation is large and engaged as well. None of that equates to any kind of volume of people (en masse) though producing his fallout. Elon Musk and Mark Cuban are two individuals whose biting convos between one another can trend heavily for millions of interested people. Tyler from Spartanburg's call to Dabo trended massively, for days. Yet each was one person getting it from one other person. Did a few get under Pate's skin? Or as 'en masse' comes across, was it a few hundred or thousand?

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Mar 10, 2025, 6:49 PM
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We keep going back and forth so I think it's fair to say you won't take my word for it, & that's OK, promise, & while it's not unique to this or to Pate, that's why it's worth looking for yourself, & again I'm sincerely curious what you think about the response, even just from this one time in a bubble, so to speak.

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Mar 10, 2025, 7:28 PM
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Weird that you are so vociferously defending Pate’s position here but can’t actually show the “abuse” he took from the masses.

He seems like he might be a bit too whiny and weak for the line of work he chose. How can you not make fun of him for whining about people being mean while he had a cold 🤣

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Re: Eric Mac Lain is a Pate peer, and a pro. Not sure what he shared but


Mar 10, 2025, 8:05 PM
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I didn't think I was being demanding above about any kind of link or reference - it would be helpful to better understand where this Gray cat is coming from and if there were actually legions of Clem folk going at it.

Unconscionable? Sounds like Pate just had a bad day and was cranky with a cold and wouldn't mind just letting this lie. Or maybe he's getting his money's worth with it?

Go Tigers.

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Mar 10, 2025, 8:17 PM
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It's not demanding, but is asking to look for yourself? I responded several times with just implications of lying, but I can link to his twitter I guess? Or his YouTube, which is linked in the article we read above? I don't get it, but I tried, sincerely, multiple times, & it just keeps coming back to "you're wrong" & another dead end, which I suppose somewhat ironically proves my point rather than disproves it as a side effect is all, even after citing guys we do know & love like Eric Mac Lain, & again, it's not unique to Pate, that's why I mentioned it again this time but for some reason it feels like we're stuck on that in spite of what I said or how many times I said it, that's what I don't get, but again, that's why it's so frustrating as this is also represented in all those other national examples for Clemson nation & its fan identity regardless of it being personal for me here. Cheers & Go Tigers!

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Mar 10, 2025, 8:32 PM
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I don't equate not knowing really with lying. No harm bud. Maybe you heard something and thought it was bunches but it was only 12. That's all. It only takes a few trolls and idjits to paint a bad color.

BTW I did look for myself and couldn't find a thing, and wasn't going to click on an old Pate cast and earn him $$ in case that's where all these legions and masses of Clemson fans were hiding. The article read like it was a chat also, not a cast. No thread to be found for that. Figured you knew a lot about it and would have access. No sweat.

Cheers and Go Tigers!

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Mar 10, 2025, 9:38 PM
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Couldn't find a thing? Even among the trending engagement & some of the specific Clemson voices I mentioned, nothing?

Again, I don't listen to his podcast or often watch his show outright, & the financial "gain" for a click seems disingenuous at best. I "have access" as much as you or anyone by nature, of course (i.e., I don't think any of his stuff is behind a paywall of any kind, & if it is I wouldn't have accessed it regardless).


Perhaps I was right this was a dead-end then & I'm not sure what else to say to that, sincerely, it's just disappointing is all, & as sincerely. Cheers.

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I'm not.


Mar 10, 2025, 8:14 PM [ in reply to Re: Eric Mac Lain is a Pate peer, and a pro. Not sure what he shared but ]
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I'm not defending Pate. I hate that it gets so simplified as good vs. evil, & not to be redundant, I said above explicitly it's not unique to him, that's where we have to start or it's still just a dead end & so is the conversation.


I don't care about people being "mean" to him so much as that's how Clemson nation is defined & uniquely so, that's what I was trying to highlight & this looked like another good example to cite for the conversation, if nothing else.

Nobody else does reaction videos it seems like for anyone but us, let alone for something not just trivial but with remarkable results that match his specific response from a previous response video. It's unique, we're unique, & some of us don't love that it keeps defining Clemson nation is all, especially when the news was otherwise nothing but fantastic instead, know what I mean?

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Mar 10, 2025, 2:28 PM
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Did someone ask his opinion?

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A lot of us, yes


Mar 10, 2025, 3:10 PM
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For what it's worth, a ton of the biggest voices in Clemson nation asked him directly & explicitly to respond to the Elite Retreat news as it happened & afterwards, yes. It was a great weekend for Clemson football!

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So that's it then you're leaving it there...expound further on the points..


Mar 10, 2025, 11:10 PM
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you were trying to make or did make. Blog about it, start a podcast devoted to this manic fixation..
YouTube about it...this hyperfixation deserves a voice that carries into the aether-

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Interesting coincidence


Mar 17, 2025, 2:11 PM
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I'm more trying to figure out how much to let it bother me vs. how much to let it go & just accept the changes; having my own voice & show helps, for sure.

Coincidentally, I happened to stumble on an episode of a different big national CFB podcast who just did a lengthy segment on exactly this topic on Thursday & explicitly regarding Clemson while also expounding to all other fans & the sport at-large.

The general advice was to avoid as much participation, radio, message boards, Twitter, etc., but I enjoy them all & do a good job dealing with it promoting & representing Clemson, it's when these stories happen I'll probably just try to avoid them more rather than find an answer. Part of the problem is they happen often enough to be a concern as I like reading about Clemson every day, but I'm committed to giving it a shot so we'll see.

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Not sure what happened


Mar 17, 2025, 3:52 PM [ in reply to So that's it then you're leaving it there...expound further on the points.. ]
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Hrmmm... I actually responded to this & now it's not here, not sure what happened but it was in direct response after coincidentally hearing a different big national podcast talk about Clemson's culture & how it & other cultures can change, not sure what happened so this is kinda a test.

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Mar 10, 2025, 2:40 PM
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Dang! Mr. Clean walking his words back

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Mar 10, 2025, 3:08 PM
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Who is Josh Pate?

Nevermind. I don’t care.

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Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans

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Mar 10, 2025, 3:24 PM
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He's a good dude from southern ga. If you're going to make fun of his accent, then you may as well make fun of most southern Clemson fans.

He's got a pretty good following, and it's growing. I would gander a lot of recruits in all of our sports have listened to him. Ga and the southeast is a hotbed of talent for All sports. If you listened to his show, you'd realize he's very appreciative of Clemson. We really should applaud the free advertising instead of condemning it. It's rare that a national pundit applaud our and Dabo's culture.

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Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans

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Mar 11, 2025, 10:34 AM
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I'm a believer that Good national press for our Tigers is always appreciated... So lets not feed any negative fire towards a positive story we might receive ....
Go Tigers!

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Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans


Mar 11, 2025, 9:42 AM
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Pate squirms, writhes and wiggles out of what he has said like he always does because he is a master at the English language. I watch his shows on Youtube every week and know exactly what he says and what he insinuates by saying it. He has "insinuated" on many occasions that Clemson is on the downside of a great run. He was wrong, as were many, but will never admit it. Clemson has been through an era of "change" and is now coming out the other side. Beware what you say, Josh, because eating regurgitated words can be quite unpleasant.

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Re: TNET: National analyst reacts to Clemson recruiting weekend, feedback from Tiger fans


Mar 11, 2025, 10:20 AM
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I don't think its a sudden surge, last year was a great class too, only to have several decommits. It's not like we have trouble getting commitments. We've been a constant Top 10-15 class

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