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Can't believe Our Man got himself into this mess..
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:06 PM
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Which messed uP his career due to scandal, missing playing best years of his life, changing teams..
And worse is what it probably did to his supporting Mother!
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Re: Can't believe Our Man got himself into this mess..
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:23 PM
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If Cleveland voids his contract over this, that is an expensive blow to DW. IT MIGHT BE IN HIS best interest in this case to pay the million dollars to settle this by having the suit dropped. Would Buzbee find others to keep milking the cash cow? Who knows, but it is a mess with several hundred million dollars on the line.
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Legend [6866]
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It may not matter if he settles or not
Sep 9, 2024, 8:28 PM
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If, as the article says, the NFL or Browns conduct an investigation and determine this doesn't fall under the previous punishment and determine the accusations have merit, he's toast and may not even make it through the year.
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Re: Can't believe Our Man got himself into this mess..
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:23 PM
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So this person didn’t feel compelled to come forward while this was on every news outlet, being actively litigated with multiple complainants, and only now does she have the “courage?” And all this by the same ambulance chasing lawyer…?
Does anyone have any common sense to at least be a little skeptical here? I know Bill doesn’t because..well…gotta type and respond without any analytical thinking.
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Re: Can't believe Our Man got himself into this mess..
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Sep 9, 2024, 9:21 PM
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Every word you said is correct but the answer to your question is no… most don’t have any common sense.
As you said… where was this when this case was literally in every headline in America. And of course it’s Busbee again. Dude is a snake.
It’s a total money grab and bc it’s a woman claiming it people automatically believe her.
DW4 didn’t rape anybody. The only thing he’s guilty of is being stupid.
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Re: Can't believe Our Man got himself into this mess..
Sep 10, 2024, 12:52 PM
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The thing is none of us know what actually happened. Sounds like DW has some issues that nobody saw in him. I hope he’s innocent but nobody knows what went on , if he’s guilty, so be it , it was a stupid act on his part if so
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Legend [6866]
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Tell me about it
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:24 PM
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I just can't believe he's gotten himself into this mess. I don't want to believe it's true based on who we all thought he was character wise when he was here, but inside my gut says it's hard to believe all these women are making it up and it's all lies.
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Right. So any woman that comes forward in perpetuity is telling the truth and
Sep 9, 2024, 7:29 PM
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deserves compensation.
Thinking like this lays the foundation for people like Buzbee while simultaneously diluting the validity of legitimate acts against women.
That last part is what really #### es me off.
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Legend [6866]
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Do I think they all are telling the truth
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:36 PM
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Absolutely not. I think a majority in fact are just looking for cash. However, I do think at least a couple are possibly legitimate, which is why Buzbee has been able to milk this. He found 1 or 2 legitimate cases and piled on with whomever could convince to join
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Re: Do I think they all are telling the truth
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Sep 9, 2024, 8:03 PM
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Not when all the dogs were running with the same pack!!! I never believed any of howling meant anything and I still don't. They wanted the whole cow over just a steak, typical predator!!!
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Re: Do I think they all are telling the truth
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Sep 9, 2024, 11:32 PM
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I feel any rape victim would seek criminal charges. Not civil litigation. 1 million dollars won’t help heal trauma. That’s the biggest a red flag too me. I feel like he may be guilty of soliciting lude acts for money. He needs to be careful. That Steve McNair documentary should open his eyes.
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Re: Do I think they all are telling the truth
Sep 9, 2024, 11:37 PM
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That’s how I view this too. Sad that he fell into that behavior. What a waste. It’s four years later and I’m hoping he’s matured, but I’m not convinced he has yet. This flaw in him was like catnip for those in the industry he frequented.
We’ll see if anything after 2020 pops out. That should be telling.
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Clemson Conqueror [11148]
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You dont know what if any evidence the accuser has to corroborate her story and
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:44 PM
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yet you’re ready to dismiss her as a gold digging fraud Just because she’s accusing one of your heroes.
It’s thinking like this that lays the foundation for many legitimate rape victims to be too afraid to come forward.
I hope it’s not true but at best DW4 has done a lot of creepy things in the last few years; at worst he’s done some criminal things.
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Legend [6866]
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Preach on, 100 percent
Sep 9, 2024, 7:49 PM
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"I hope it’s not true but at best DW4 has done a lot of creepy things in the last few years; at worst he’s done some criminal things."
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Re: You dont know what if any evidence the accuser has to corroborate her story and
Sep 9, 2024, 9:17 PM
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Too many on here seem to think that because he wasn't found guilty in a criminal trial that he didn't do it. I guess those people all believe OJ was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
based on standards for rules of evidence for criminal cases the Texas prosecutor would probably never have prosecuted DW, knowing that a conviction would be highly unlikely. I would like to know if victim/plaintiff actually ever filed a criminal complaint and, if so, what became of that. Likely not, cause then Buzbee would not get his 40-50% fee. Anyone know the answer?
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Game Changer [1799]
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Re: You dont know what if any evidence the accuser has to corroborate her story and
Sep 9, 2024, 9:56 PM
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The only reason Watson's case(s) ever went in front of a grand jury was because of the attention it was receiving. The optics of a DA "doing nothing" given how much attention there was on the case was not palatable. No one with a modicum of understanding of how criminal trials work would ever have expected that case to go to trial.
I'm not sure how a victim agreeing to participate in a criminal trial has any bearing here. It would not prohibit them from suing Watson in civil court. One does not preclude the other. Of the accuser's that did agree to participate in a criminal trial I believe all but one have settled civil suits against Watson.
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Re: All of this. Thank you for posting.***
Sep 9, 2024, 11:08 PM
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You may make your site more money by being you, but it doesn’t change the fact that you make your living by profiteering off other people’s weaknesses.
That makes you true trash in my view.
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Re: All of this. Thank you for posting.***
Sep 9, 2024, 11:19 PM
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Your presence in this thread is completely predictable. Like puppies led to cat ####.
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Recruit [97]
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Re: You dont know what if any evidence the accuser has to corroborate her story and
Sep 9, 2024, 11:02 PM
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We’ll see what actually comes forward here in terms of actual evidence.
As is typical, you immediately judge an individual’s motives behind their options based on your preconceived notions.
“One of my heroes”…
Your dismissal of this attorney’s deserved reputation.
The timing of this..in one of the only states that allows such after such a looongg period of time.
Right, he’s my hero, and I can’t have my hero tarnished so I refuse to believe a woman, 4-years removed from an alleged incident whereby physical evidence is non-existent, and only a year after the ambulance chasing lawyer has already milked this with wide spread media attention, without a single criminal complaint, filed a new
suit.
And I’m wrong for being skeptical, and not
only that I’m;
“Laying the foundation for many legitimate rape victims to be too afraid to come forward.”
Just because you can use word play doesn’t make it correct or appropriate. Issues like this are why I think the Chinese are ultimately going to rule us all.
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Clemson Conqueror [11148]
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Wow that was a lot
Sep 10, 2024, 11:47 AM
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And none of it was worth reading
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Re: you just assuming it's a lie is no different than people assuming that it's true
Sep 9, 2024, 8:58 PM
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You’ll be needing to provide some actual data on that, sir.
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Solid Orange [1320]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 7:22 PM
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> seeks damages in excess of $1 million
Of course she does. Why file a criminal case when a civil case works just fine. :eye-roll
Dude’s no angel, but going to Buzbee is basically 713-CASH-NOW.
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Game Changer [1952]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 7:25 PM
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Is Buzbee still the McNair’s bestie and next door neighbor?
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:34 PM
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At this point, I’m done with Deshaun.
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Letterman [191]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 7:37 PM
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When DW4 was at CU I thought he was a really great kid with the story of his Mom raising him and all. When the story broke with all this when he was Houston...it has been more than a source of tension with my wife when I spoke on the subject...So I digress.
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 7:48 PM
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McNair had the blueprint to figure out how to get out of a bad contract, then the truck stop guy signed an even worse contract with Watson. I am sure Watsons contract has a morals clause that the NFL and Players Association signed off on.
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 7:51 PM
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I am not saying he did not do it, but why not file criminal charges instead of calling the glorified ambulance chaser lawyer.
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Clemson Conqueror [11148]
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If I had to guess; preponderance of the truth vs beyond reasonable doubt.
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:55 PM
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also the accused of a crime has certain rights that he would not have in a civil case because the stakes are so much higher. She has a better chance to maintain some anonymity in a civil case. Perhaps she doesn’t wanna be plastered all over the news while they recount details of one of the worst days of her life.
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Re: If I had to guess; preponderance of the truth vs beyond reasonable doubt.
Sep 9, 2024, 8:12 PM
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Also, she probably doesn’t get any money from a criminal case.
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Game Changer [1799]
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Re: If I had to guess; preponderance of the truth vs beyond reasonable doubt.
Sep 9, 2024, 8:33 PM
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A criminal case would not prohibit civil proceedings.
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Re: If I had to guess; preponderance of the truth vs beyond reasonable doubt.
Sep 9, 2024, 9:33 PM
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Correct. Again the OJ trial for example
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Game Changer [1799]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
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Because individuals do not file criminal charges. District attorneys do. Sexual assault (or whatever the jurisdictional equivalent is) is a notoriously challenging criminal charge to prove beyond a reasonable doubt because of its very nature. Sexual assault victims seeking justice in civil court where the burden of evidence is lower is not at all unique to this case.
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Legend [6866]
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however, for a DA to file charges, a police report must be filed
Sep 10, 2024, 8:45 AM
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I do not think a DA can bring a case if the victim doesn't at least file a report, especially in a case like this where it is his word versus hers. If she doent file a report then the DA wouldnt have anything to go on that a crime even occured.
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
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I am not saying he did not do it, but why not file criminal charges instead of calling the glorified ambulance chaser lawyer.
Because a criminal prosecutor in (whatever county), Texas, would have to review the “facts of the case” and whatever evidence was available (physician exam, DNA, social media, etc) and determine if it’s worth his/her time & taxpayer’s money (reasonable expectation of conviction) to prosecute DW. Rules of evidence in a civil action are much less strenuous than in a criminal case so plaintiff is favored. Also Buzbee wants a jury trial so he can appeal to the emotions of the jurors and he would push for at least 50% female representation. He knows a judge without a jury present would probably strike most of what he presents.
Let’s also understand that plaintiffs’ attorneys take these cases on contingency and generally get 40-50% of the settlement amount if they win. Last but not least - Buzbee’s intent is to settle this case for the payout BEFORE it goes to trial. Most plaintiffs attorneys would prefer this I think. Preparing for a trial is expensive & time consuming.
When all said & done, the law isn’t about the truth, it’s about what you can get people to believe.
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 7:55 PM
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Wow, that is the biggest load of horse manure I've ever read. It's like this "doe" pieces all the other stories from the other Watson lawsuits and came up with this conglomerate of a money grab. This is a civil suit and they want to go straight to jury trial?
Insane.
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Athletic Dir [1148]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
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Sep 9, 2024, 7:57 PM
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Or maybe all of the cases are similar because Deshaun likes girls rubbing his butt? It’s very unlikely that every one of these girls are lying.
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 8:13 PM
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Not a chance on this one. The others...there's definitely a possibilty.
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Re: Were you there?***
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Sep 9, 2024, 10:14 PM
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Yeah I was. Butt nekked in the kitchen fixing a sandwich.
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CU Guru [1530]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 8:05 PM
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Buzbee = pure scum.
Karma is a female dog and Buzbee will pay.
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Sep 9, 2024, 8:21 PM
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Uhhhhh ....the real question is why does anyone need 26 different masseuses? Weird IMHO. Strange fits too.
Askin' for a friend.
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Clemson Conqueror [11148]
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+20 hes pushing 50 masseuses in that time period
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Sep 9, 2024, 8:31 PM
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26 or so women accused him and then his defense brought out 20 or so other women who said he was a perfect gentleman during their sessions. So this cat has been rubbed up by around 50 women is just a couple of years. Clearly he was shopping for some services that aren’t necessarily on the normal menu.
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Re: +20 hes pushing 50 masseuses in that time period
Sep 9, 2024, 8:56 PM
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Or maybe some of these 26 did have the menu he wanted to order from, but decided later to cash in.
DW4 is not innocent, but I doubt all of these women are innocent either.
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Clemson Conqueror [11148]
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Im sure he found his share of women willing to satisfy his kink
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Sep 9, 2024, 9:06 PM
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But, Just like a junkie shopping doctors until he finds one who will give him a scrip for oxy, the sheer volume of women he found to rub him up indicates a predilection towards some suspect shenanigans.
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yeah I mean thats the thing here
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Sep 9, 2024, 9:10 PM
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I am sure "the line" is different for each of these 26 women. But he seems to have approached each one in a creepy manner rather than an honest approach of asking them out or whatever.
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Rival Killer [2738]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 8:38 PM
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Did she ever go to the police
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Re: DW4
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Sep 9, 2024, 8:41 PM
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Needs to grow up . He is living in high heaven !!!!
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The answer is, no. No, Forest she did not go to the police.
Sep 9, 2024, 11:15 PM
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She lived her life for 4-years. She didn’t go to the police. She didn’t skydive without a parachute into the reflection pond. She filed a civil suit 4-years later.
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Legend [6866]
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I'm guessing no or we would know her name
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Sep 9, 2024, 8:48 PM
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If I'm not mistaken you can't make a criminal complaint anonymously. You have the right to know your accuser.
Also it would have come up in the previous lawsuits
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Re: I'm guessing no or we would know her name
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I think this one is a money chaser. Sounds really bizarre. Everyone persecuted the Duke lacrosse team too and they paid dearly for years. These women are just out for a payday.
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Re: I'm guessing no or we would know her name
Sep 9, 2024, 11:29 PM
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Some on this thread would reflexively support the Duke Lacosse accusers to this day. AND SOME OF THEM HERE DID THAT THEN.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
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Too bad NIL was not a thing in his day...
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Re: DW4 has new lawsuit coming his way
Sep 9, 2024, 9:33 PM
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So instead of going to a public event on a first date, she asks him to come to her apartment. Smells like a set up. Maybe he did this stuff and maybe he didn’t- not being a part of the first round of “victims” also smells fishy. How f’n stupid is this woman? What if he’d been a serial killer? DW brought this garbage on himself putting himself in bad situations with questionable people. It’s going to haunt him forever.
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Solid Orange [1338]
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What a gross and naive out of touch take.
Sep 10, 2024, 6:17 AM
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Nm
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Varsity [135]
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One article I read
Sep 10, 2024, 6:53 AM
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Said “Jane Doe” didn’t feel comfortable meeting him in a public place so she invited him to her apartment for dinner. HUH?
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Re: One article I read
Sep 10, 2024, 12:07 PM
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That's what the law suit states. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Ole Buzbee is going to be haunting DW4 for the rest of his days***
Sep 10, 2024, 1:51 PM
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