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CU Guru [1099]
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Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 5:49 PM
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For better or worse.
Roll of the dice when you replace a HOF coach with anyone, much less someone not from the "family".
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 5:50 PM
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Calm down. It's baseball
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National Champion [8072]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 5:51 PM
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Football is still king.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 5:51 PM
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depends, does this free up more money for Dabo's assistants?
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CU Guru [1099]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 5:53 PM
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Likely not. Lee is demanding his pitching coach be paid same as SC pitching coach. Working out the numbers, that's why deal not done yet.
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 9:16 PM
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BS. We dont follow scar. And you have no way to speculate such preposterous crap
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Heisman Winner [80329]
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doubt it
Jun 16, 2015, 5:52 PM
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no offense, but it is only baseball
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Ring of Honor [21196]
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No announcement yet...and already the trolls come out to
Jun 16, 2015, 5:53 PM
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bash the decision. Yes, yes little Exiled, we know...all Clemson Athletics will eventually unravel and the oculus will collapse due to this hire...fire DRad.
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Seriously... Can we please unite around our new coach
Jun 16, 2015, 5:58 PM
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According to polls, most Clemson fans wanted a new coach. It's fine if you disagree, but can we please not be just silly and outrageously wrong to continue to push that sentiment.
Someone wrote "He'll always be remembered as the AD who fired a Hall of Famer." Yeah? Is that hwo FSU's AD is remembered? Plus, it is baseball.
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Re: Seriously... Can we please unite around our new coach
Jun 16, 2015, 6:06 PM
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I'm sorry anyone got fired but look at his last 3 years. Would you have kept your job ?
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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CU Medallion [19146]
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NO one is irreplaceable. No one.
Jun 16, 2015, 6:08 PM
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Just like dipping water out of a bucket. It may splash around for just a bit, but it doesn't take long for it to become like it was before it was disturbed - like nothing happened at all.
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Ultimate Tiger [38588]
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Re: NO one is irreplaceable. No one.
Jun 16, 2015, 7:01 PM
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Monte Lee is a good baseball coach .
I like the dudes intensity , and his aggressive style .
Hopefully his recruiting ties to the southeast will be a boost here at Clemson.
Go Tigers
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Associate AD [808]
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Clemson is a football first school
Jun 16, 2015, 6:09 PM
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As long as the football team is winning and Dabo is happy...DRad is not going anywhere
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CU Guru [1099]
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Re: Clemson is a football first school
Jun 17, 2015, 12:16 AM
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He's not going anywhere. I agree. This will define him though cause I don't see him having to make another move in the big 2 sports during his tenure. I do however believe that Lee is simply keeping the seat warm for a few years. Then we get our guy.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 6:16 PM
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His fate is based on football and football only. Now is legacy may be base on baseball and basketball.
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Dynasty Maker [3531]
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Why did you post this in a football board?***
Jun 16, 2015, 6:41 PM
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 6:51 PM
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I fell asleep reading this post. Really?
Some of you guys don't get this. We have a BOT, an AD and Clements wanting to be the best in athletics. If you cannot fathom to see this then cheer for Wofford.
Please, I've seen the fallout over Ford, the terrible presidents like Lennon & Barker. The Chicken Amicks and....now...things really have seemed to change.
Get on or get off...
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 6:56 PM
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This is on a half dozen charts down below the Danny Ford firing. Are you crazzzzzzzy!!!
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 7:00 PM
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i was talking about the big time leadership at CU. If you cannot see that, then, go cry for Leggett, I'm sure he'll really care.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 6:57 PM
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Where do you get the notion our board, AD and President want to be the "best in athletics?" It took two weeks and at least three meetings to come to terms with a Colonial Athletic Conference coach. We gave a coach who can't make the NCAA tournament a long term deal in basketball. I'm really not trying to be belligerent, but I don't see it and I would love to be persuaed otherwise. When Wilkins was elected chairman there was a lot of hype that Clemson was finally going to have an advocate for athletics. But everything has been business as usual as far as I can see.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 7:04 PM
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Biggest ####### on the board. Again, I'm not a special Ed teacher. If you cannot see this, then I don't have an answer.
You're a Leggett homer anyway....not Clemson, Leggett. Have fun with that.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 7:48 PM
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So, I take it you're conceding you have no answer for the question, even though it wasn't directed at you anyway? I'm sure your pulse is because you're so friendly and reasonable - not because your just a coot.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 7:57 PM
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Yea, I'm a coot. You're really a freaking idiot.
Again, this is why I'm no Special Ed teacher. And, I give a thumbs up for them. They deal with much more than I could.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:11 PM
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Well, you don't seem to be able to answer a question.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:13 PM
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If you don't see the clear answer then I'm not going to hold your hand. Or, get Leggetts' nuts out of your mouth.
There's your answer, practiceboy.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:13 PM
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If you don't see the clear answer then I'm not going to hold your hand. Or, get Leggetts' nuts out of your mouth.
There's your answer, practiceboy.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:23 PM
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So, no answer? And a little homophobia thrown in for good measure. Wise Tiger indeed.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:25 PM
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#######
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:28 PM
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Idiot. You don't even know. Man, has this been fun. Biggest moron on the board crying about a baseball coach. Did Leggett get his nuts out of your mouth already or are you still cupping them?
Answer the darn question?
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:35 PM
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I'm not crying for a baseball coach. You're the temper tantrum throwing baby Dr. WiseTiger that can't handle being challenged. Where exactly is the commitment to winning? If it's only about football, then how was it relevant to the baseball hire? I didn't start with the name calling. Please tell me why I'm supposed to believe Wilkins, Radakovich, and Clements are committed to putting athletics forward at Clemson. You said it. I'm asking for some evidence. Is this hire supposed to be it? If so, just say so. I see a President at Carolina calling sports their front porch and performing and spending money all over the place. What am I missing. This, "if you're too stupid to see it stuff" is a complete cop-out. Don't care if you like, but I'm not going anywhere So it would only make sense to try and persuade me. Look at my post counts. I'm not like the belligerent tools that thread stalk people and post a dozen times a day on average. I'd love an honest answer. Since you seem to think so much of yourself, there might actually be some validity to it.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:39 PM
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Wall of text. Did not read. Again, I'm not going to hold your hand. Figure it out for yourself.
And, yes, you're a moron.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:42 PM
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Yessir mister doctor wise tiger. You have it all figured out. Except for the whole not being a giant bag of d*cks thing, but that might come to you one day.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:43 PM
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Meh.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:47 PM
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I was looking over your very sporadic post history. You really do have some anger issues. Perhaps your colleagues could hook you up with some sedatives or something.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:56 PM
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Really? It's all about post history?
I gave my opinion on this. Sorry (not really, I kinda have that right), you went apeshat on it, because you're a bully on this board.
So, again, I'm not going to hold your hand if you're such a moron not to figure it out. Post points or non posting 100xs a day. Hell, any monkey can post 100xs a day.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:59 PM
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"Where do you get the notion our board, AD and President want to be the "best in athletics?" It took two weeks and at least three meetings to come to terms with a Colonial Athletic Conference coach. We gave a coach who can't make the NCAA tournament a long term deal in basketball. I'm really not trying to be belligerent, but I don't see it and I would love to be persuaed otherwise. When Wilkins was elected chairman there was a lot of hype that Clemson was finally going to have an advocate for athletics. But everything has been business as usual as far as I can see."
This was my question to you. How could I have phrased it differently to receive a less hostile response? Don't see anything "apeshit" here and then you jumped straight to ###### and #### jokes and name-calling.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 9:01 PM
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Dumb if you don't know...hint it has nothing to do with the balls you just got out of your mouth.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 9:07 PM
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So, we're back to that huh? Would you use that kind of humor in public? I imagine it might have some potential career ramifications for someone as smart and influential as you. I guess it must be a real relaxing thing when you can saddle up to the Internet and let all your prejudices fly. Well, let me pull these balls out my mouth. Nope, they still don't have an answer to my question. That's cool if you're not used to being challenged. I know you might be used to having syncophants around all day and not really no how to react. It's cool. I'll just chalk it up to you really actually have no answer or you're just a miserable prick.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 9:11 PM
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What? I'm supposed to spell this out to morons? Again, I'm not a special Ed teacher.
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110%er [8013]
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: smh
Jun 16, 2015, 8:54 PM
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Thought we already hashed things out. Have you not seen the number of things he's called me over the preceding dozen posts? My initial query was entirely reasonable. No, I don't intend to just lie down to every TNet bully. And at a 50% pulse, I'm clearly not the first person he's ever gotten out of line with. Sorry, didn't realize I can't ever come back to the club if we don't all share exactly the same opinions.
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110%er [8013]
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We did hash it out. I have no problem with you personally.
Jun 16, 2015, 9:06 PM
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I just hate to see you go down the same path with him that we went down.
And even though you didn't ask me, I'll try to answer your question.
Yes, this admin, pres, and BOT appear to be committed to athletic excellence. Last year we had the highest paid OC in the country. We had the highest paid OC/DC team in the country. We built a new indoor practice facility. New track facility. Are building a new basketball arena. New additions to DV. Look at how much has already been spent on the baseball facility and how much more is planned. A new tennis facility. And even though you don't agree with it, the decision to fire a HOF coach was made in support of better athletic performance.
Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more examples.
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Re: We did hash it out. I have no problem with you personally.
Jun 16, 2015, 9:10 PM
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This, but vizidiot cannot figure this out.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: We did hash it out. I have no problem with you personally.
Jun 16, 2015, 9:13 PM
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See, perfectly reasonable answers. I definitely think there is a serious commitment to football. I am concerned about the other sports. i guess we'll see. I still cast everything to do with baseball against what USC has done. Hopefully the final product will be comparable. Comparing budgets is somewhat pointless since their budget included buying property and building an entire stadium.
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Re: We did hash it out. I have no problem with you personally.
Jun 16, 2015, 9:20 PM
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Really? The upgrade to LittleJohn? But, please compare it to the coots.
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Re: Drad will seal his fate with this fire/hire
Jun 16, 2015, 8:08 PM
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Do you actually have a clinical condition where you are compulsively unable to answer a question? (Sorry my a-hole filter is off on this device). It was a serious question posed in a reasonable manner. What has changed? What? Hire on the cheap or dramatically overpay for garbage. If you think they've waited till now over background checks and due diligence you're daft. He wants way more than he's worth and the board wouldn't come off with the money till everyone realized there were no better or more affordable options. TDP gave Bowden a nice big, fat extension and buyout to fire him a few games later. Brownell will last a season and half longer than Bowden (after his new deal) did but that's about it. Will eat nice big buyout on that one and then hire on the cheap again. Monte Lee might work out fine but don't pretend for a second this was a home run hire. Schlossnagle or O'Sullivan were home runs. This is purely B-team and you know it. You are one of the who used lack of championships to tear into Leggett. So if I'm judging the administration why doesn't the same standard apply? Where are the championships because I sure as heck don't seem them. There are 4 major sports and we're putrid at one, bad at the other, and slightly above average at a 3rd. Football is fun again but we aren't exactly swimming in championships if that's the standard. So tell me where we're hiding all the trophies so I'll see my mistake. 10th of 15th teams in the ACC in the All Sports Cup doesn't exactly scream commitment to athletics and winning.
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You're over inflating the importance of a baseball hire
Jun 16, 2015, 6:58 PM
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for an AD.
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You are delusional
Jun 16, 2015, 8:32 PM
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if you think that while football is having it's best period since the late 1980's a baseball coaching hire is going to be the tipping point for an AD.
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Re: You are delusional
Jun 16, 2015, 8:34 PM
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Baseball coaches in college are not deal breakers .
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No it won't. Football and basketball are more important.
Jun 16, 2015, 8:46 PM
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Baseball, while important to some Clemson fans, loses about $1 million per year and is not a career-defining sport for athletic directors.
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Paw Master [17238]
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Re: No it won't. Football and basketball are more important.
Jun 16, 2015, 8:50 PM
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I agree with you in principle but I really doubt he's gonna hire a football replacement during his tenure so this could be his landmark hire. Brownell isn't likely going anywhere no matter what for 2 seasons and after that it'll be fairly consensus what should happen. So, I doubt he gets fired over a baseball fire/hire, but it could very well be what defines his tenure.
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fate would have ben sealed by not firing***
Jun 16, 2015, 10:14 PM
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I hear ya COOT!
Jun 16, 2015, 10:24 PM
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Don't be a Hater - because You Mad at Chad!
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