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Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 13, 2016, 10:02 PM
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This post comes on the heels of the coots getting the commitment from OrTre Smith from Wando this weekend.
To hear them tell it, his commitment is all part of Muscoots "grand plan" to "take over the state" in recruiting and that plan is going to lead to Clemson's demise. As if them getting a higher % of in-state commits than us is going to somehow vault them over us in both recruiting rankings and on-field performance.
First, the state of SC only produces around 6 - 8 blue chip P5 D1 players per year. Even if they got EVERY ONE OF THEM, that would put them woefully behind us and other elite programs in the SEC in regards to overall talent. Of course they won't get everyone of them. They seem to convince themselves that the in-state kids will feel "slighted" by Clemson and this will have them play with a "chip on their shoulder" against us. Ha, this is fantasy land.
Sure, we would have taken Brian Edwards, as a DB. OrTre, yes, he had a committable offer from us as a WR but he would have had little to no chance of avoiding a RS year at Clemson. Shi Smith? We stopped recruiting him long ago.
So, if all these SC guys aren't going to be enough to bring them championships, were else do they go? FL? GA? NC? Nope, not enough gravitas to swing enough big fish from those states to get them over the hump.
Also, just keep in mind that the coot staff has not proven that they can coach and develop talent (see Florida).
Bottom line, expect them to remain what they have always been. A middling program in a down SEC East that will average about 7 wins a year annually.
That is all......
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POTD!!!!!***
Sep 13, 2016, 10:04 PM
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Orange Blooded [2567]
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What planet do you live on that you can possibly believe
Sep 13, 2016, 11:20 PM
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that they will be able to achieve a 7 win average each year? Pluto?
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Campus Hero [14067]
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3 easy non-con games per year and then they only have
Sep 14, 2016, 12:41 PM
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to beat some of the crappy SEC East teams. Beating Vandy and Kentucky isn't very hard. Mizzou seems like they are going to be pretty bad as often as not.
6 wins a year might be more reasonable, but a lot of it depends on how well UT, UGA, and UF do.
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CU Guru [1245]
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edwards is
Sep 13, 2016, 11:34 PM
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Going to be a good receiver but would have never made a DB.
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Re: edwards is
Sep 14, 2016, 6:43 AM
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And where do you currently coach football? Just wondering where your pedigree stacks up to the staff that played for a NC last season.
Are you coots feeling good about 'beating' Clemson on these recruits? Lol. Are you guys feeling like world beaters again? Should I show you threads of your preseason excitement last year and the year before? You know, before reality smacked you across the face.
If you're looking for a pat on the back, you won't find it here...but you may find a swift kick in the ### in the form of a ban (hopefully).
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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dude take a pill, he just made a comment. Edwards is already
Sep 14, 2016, 6:59 AM
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a good receiver and I don't see him as a DB from what I've seen so far, he may be the best WR they have.
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Athletic Dir [881]
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He has the size and speed Reed likes for CB or S
Sep 14, 2016, 7:45 AM
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He wasn't going to compete with our current WRs for playing time, but Reed could have developed him into an NFL DB. See TJ Green. Clemson initially recruited OrTre as a TE, which he didn't like. Good WRs are a dime a dozen, good TEs are rare.
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Re: dude take a pill, he just made a comment. Edwards is already
Sep 14, 2016, 8:00 AM
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You wanna control the way I respond to a poster on a public forum? Good luck Kim Jong-Un...you're a long ways from North Korea.
I don't have to explain myself to you but I'll take moment. Tymcoot's a coot troll that loves to stir the pot and troll the board. I'm sure he appreciates you standing up for him but he's a big boy and free to respond/troll back. His pulse should have been your first clue...
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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pulse rating and alliance aside, you sound like an angry
Sep 14, 2016, 11:19 AM
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person that's ready to lash out at whoever gets in your world.....I'm sure it's a place that nobody else wants to be a part of....carry on
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105576]
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108265]
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Speaking of wall-hangers that are easy to catch, but hard...
Sep 14, 2016, 12:54 PM
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as hell to clean.
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110%er [3842]
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Is he really a "good" receiver when he's the only one
Sep 14, 2016, 8:55 AM
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you got that can catch a ball??
Or at that point is he "the only one we got that can catch a ball??"
Silly Coot.
South Alabama > Miss St.
Miss St. > USuC
lulz...
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Re: Is he really a "good" receiver when he's the only one
Sep 14, 2016, 12:19 PM
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A couple things;
1)Transitive property cannot exist in college football.
2)Bryan Edwards should have been recruited by Clemson as a WR. He's much, much better than most realize.
3) yes, SC has the #1 from NC and #1 from SC committed and is trending for 2018 #1 from NC Z. White, along with 2018 #1 from SC X. Thomas.
4) ...and most importantly, the fact that this conversation is even taking place is very, very telling.
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Edwards looks very slow for an SEC receiver
Sep 14, 2016, 9:05 AM
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he does make himself a big target though. Thats just my impression from a whopping 2 game sample.
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 7:07 AM
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Well , they do get a small bump in recruiting rankings because of SEC membership , and because oversignages.
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 7:09 AM
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If they want to get to seven this year , they better start praying that ECU and UMass bring their C- games .
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Paw Master [17658]
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Let them have hope.
Sep 14, 2016, 7:48 AM
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It's all they've got.
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 8:05 AM
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We also have the #1 player in NC committed to us...
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 8:06 AM
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Question, do you think UF's talent was better than yours while Muschamp was coach there?
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 8:11 AM
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Defensively? Absolutely.
Offensively? Hard to say.
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 8:13 AM
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Agreed.
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 8:15 AM
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You know who it is.
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110%er [3842]
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No really, please fill us in on this magical #1 recruit
Sep 14, 2016, 9:04 AM
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from NC that's committed to you.
I'm waiting with googly eyes.....
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Re: I don't, who is it?***
Sep 14, 2016, 9:21 AM
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You guys know you follow our recruiting close enough to know.
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Re: I don't, who is it?***
Sep 14, 2016, 9:23 AM
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Probably talking about Hamsah Nasirildeen.
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Re: I don't, who is it?***
Sep 14, 2016, 10:27 AM
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So pathetic that this troll cant answer a basic question.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105576]
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That would be true if it wasn't false
Sep 14, 2016, 11:16 AM
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Other than OrTre I can't name a single USuCk recruit off the top of my head, but I do know he's not from NC.
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Justin Foster is the top recruit in NC by the way
Sep 14, 2016, 12:06 PM
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Rated higher per 247 sports in composite ranking and prospect rating. Foster is also rated higher on ESPN and Rivals. Not sure where you get you're stuff from but none of us would mind if you'd head back to your roost and suck on a railroad spike.
But regardless, I'd have to say the pecking order in NC would be Foster, Lawler, Melton, Cauthen, Jones and THEN maybe Himsacoot or however you say his name. And you know that you guys often have a problem with people qualifying too....
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/high-school/article74881027.html
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Re: Justin Foster is the top recruit in NC by the way
Sep 14, 2016, 12:10 PM
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Yeah I'm just going to stick with the rankings that confirm my own bias.
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Re: See for yourself
Sep 14, 2016, 12:39 PM
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You're posting the composite rankings. Not the 247 rankings.
Don't call people idiots when you're being obtuse...
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 9:45 AM
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Zamir White is the consensus #1 in NC for the 2017 class ... and he wouldn't end up in Columbia by ACCIDENT .
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 10:25 AM
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Sounds like you're a year ahead of yourself.
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you do realize
Sep 14, 2016, 10:31 AM
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no one gives a #### - right? usuck is not on the same planet and you are at best a 6-7 win program - like nc state or wake. you had a few good yrs. wake gets recruits. so does state. you comment on a bored that has a team that just played in the national championship and is favored to do so again. and gets to cherry pick recruits. you need to go over to vandys bored or ecu's bored. many many more commonalities when it comes to football programs
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Well to be fair.....
Sep 14, 2016, 8:11 AM
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Muschamp really showed us his coaching genius with the talent he had at Florida.
He turned chicken salad into chicken s#it. Can you imagine what he will do with the chicken S#it he has at SCAR?
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Whats after chicken S#it ...o.o
Sep 14, 2016, 8:16 AM
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nm
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Fertilizer
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 8:12 AM
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What I have seen from the Coots the last 2 games is a team with not much talent.
It would take at least 3 top classes to get them back to decent.
Then if they get some good players somebody has to coach them.
They may over the next few years have some good Ds but Boom is a 7 win coach .
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 8:21 AM
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I am hoping you are right @badb! I SOOOOoooo desperately want us to reel off AT LEAST six in a row over the coots (everything after would be special icing on the cake!).
GO TIGERS!!!!
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Coots got good football players. But the facts are that
Sep 14, 2016, 11:31 AM
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those fine young men want to play NOW. With the lack of current coot talent, they can play early at Psycholina. They might be red-shirted at Clemson.
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Re: Don't fall for the coot propaganda:
Sep 14, 2016, 12:19 PM
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