Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Game Day Hero [4318]
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Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:54 AM
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That we got a transfer, but he’s from Southeast Missouri State?
Is he really much better than any other receiver we have or will bring in?
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CU Medallion [20745]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:57 AM
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Not sure where you going with that. Is the young man in question criple or something wrong with him? Seems like a legitimate positive pickup.
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Game Day Hero [4318]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:58 AM
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How are you not clear?
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:00 PM
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Good dude coming to Clemson. Played well at SEMS What's not to like about it?
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Orange Blooded [2110]
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National Champion [7377]
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Re: What is your point? Smaller program?***
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Isn’t his coach Hampton’s dad?
If a players dad recommends him to Dabo, I feel pretty good about it.
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Ring of Honor [21293]
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No, that's another receiver in the portal
Dec 18, 2024, 4:30 PM
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From Ark-Pine Bluff
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National Champion [7377]
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Re: No, that's another receiver in the portal
Dec 18, 2024, 6:08 PM
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Oohh. I assumed it was this one.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Ring of Honor [22865]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:38 PM
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agree, his film looks better than our wrs that portal'd. I'd argue he'll be better at running routes than our 'speedster' Turner.
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Game Day Hero [4189]
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We don't have anyone with his height and skill set
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:02 PM
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So I think he adds positive depth for us.
So no, I am not angered in the slightest. Quite the opposite. If we can somehow land Heldt then we'll really be cookin'.
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Orange Blooded [2110]
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Sigh***
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:07 PM
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Game Changer [1691]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State
There are plenty of well-known players that went to small town schools for various reasons. I don't know this kid's story but someone on staff liked him enough to give him a shot here. I'll watch him play 1st before I write him off because of what school he came from.
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Game Day Hero [4318]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 1:06 PM
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While we’re listing off NFL legends who played at small schools I can add Ben Rothlisberger, Randy Moss, Brett Favre, Josh Allen, etc.
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Clemson Icon [27692]
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Walter Payton, and this year's Heisman Trophy winner - Travis Hunter.*
Dec 18, 2024, 4:31 PM
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qqqqqq
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Game Day Hero [4318]
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Re: Walter Payton, and this year's Heisman Trophy winner - Travis Hunter.*
Dec 18, 2024, 4:52 PM
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Yeah well
Travis Hunter was also the #1 player that could’ve gone anywhere from the start
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Playmaker [351]
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Re: Walter Payton, and this year's Heisman Trophy winner - Travis Hunter.*
Dec 19, 2024, 1:30 AM
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Roybus you lost the argument .
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Does the fact that he's 6'5" (same height as me lol) and can run like a deer bother you??
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Athletic Dir [1114]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:10 PM
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It’s not the biggest need for depth, for me it feels like a “shut up y’all, see I can use the portal!”
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Associate AD [1059]
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Its just Dabo checking the box to get people off his back.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:10 PM
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Don’t expect to see much playing time from him.
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Top TigerNet [31589]
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Re: Its just Dabo checking the box to get people off his back.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:14 PM
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Letterman [185]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:12 PM
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Guy originally had grade issues from my understanding or would have had bigger school offers. Spent time at JUCO, grown up. and from what I have gathered fits the mold of that bigger, physical WR able to go get the 50/50 balls. He'll be 215 by fall and very Mike Williamsesque
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Associate AD [1059]
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So if it was just grades, which are in the past,
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:24 PM
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why didn’t he have offers from decent P4 teams when he hit the portal? Let’s not pretend grades are what kept the SEC teams from offering him.
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National Champion [7105]
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Re: I'm Sorry....All I See Is '6-5'' ---
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:12 PM
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There could be a chance......... that he can give us.......to score.
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Associate AD [1004]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 18, 2024, 12:13 PM
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If you are trying to guess his ceiling...consider Hunter Renfrow
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Game Day Hero [4318]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 18, 2024, 11:38 PM
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Lol totally not the same
Hunter Renfrow’s football IQ allowed him to be what he was
He has an incredible knack for football. Being in the right spot, how he ran his routes with deception, etc.
He’s got great physical abilities, but when comparing him to other players on the field, it’s less. And he knows that.
So, yeah not the same story here.
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Solid Orange [1321]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 19, 2024, 1:22 AM
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That's stupid. They're entirely different receiver with different skillsets. I don't see him starting, but he adds a nice wrinkle to our offense if he can crack the two-deep. He is entirely different from Renfrow.
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Associate AD [1029]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:13 PM
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I mean, yeah. I kicked the dog over it just this morning.
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Dynasty Maker [3478]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:16 PM
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No it does not anger me .. why would I let something as trivial as where a young man plays football anger me? I have no control over that! It does not puzzle me . There are not many players at any school better than what Clemson already has and if there is one they are happy where they are or they want more money than what they currently are being paid!
The portal is ludicrous as currently constructed! The NIL is unsustainable as currently constructed!
Dabo has been telling you this!
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All-TigerNet [5885]
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If youre allowing college sports to anger you.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:18 PM
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…. You probably need therapy.
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All-TigerNet [5885]
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And if it puzzles you.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:20 PM
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… you may need to go back to school.
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Playmaker [353]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:19 PM
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This is dabos way of trying shut up our fan base. Now he can say hey look at me I’m using the portal by taking a guy that had no other decent offers and won’t play a down while he’s here. Open your eyes people!
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:20 PM
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Nice pivot LMAO...you morans have gone from "Dabo won't use the portal" to "We don't like the players he's bringing in through the portal"
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CU Guru [1537]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:36 PM
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Talked to Dabo, grabbing a smoke, and he's just wanting these fans off his back 😀
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Orange Blooded [2110]
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I see it as a depth signing. We lost 2 backup wrs, including 1 that rarely saw
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Dec 18, 2024, 9:05 AM
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the field. I'm thinking with his height, he'll back up Moore at the 9 man position and I'd expect him to be a contributor next season.
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:20 PM
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Not really. You can find some good players at smaller schools. Indiana took some from James Madison team last year and made the cfp. Fifth year guys are good too from all schools to fill gaps. Again money is a factor as well as culture. Dabo can’t afford a Tamu, Colorado etc. roster reload nor does he want the drama that comes with it. Heldt is a need hopefully within Dabo budget.
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you- nope
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:25 PM
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to kill ESPN's night club bouncer graphic it is fine with me.
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Dynasty Maker [3115]
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Not really.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:26 PM
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I trust that the coaching staff knows what they need and can competently decide on how best to meet that need, whether through the portal or by developing players already on the roster.
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Offensive Star [312]
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Personally I'd much rather have a guy with production at a smaller school
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:31 PM
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Than a guy who was a 4 star recruit out of high school and went to a big time program but is quitting his team because he couldn't crack the 2 deep where he was playing. And those are essentially your two main options in the portal.
Also Tristan was by all accounts a very late bloomer. Was only 6'1 or something his Junior year of high school and very skinny (which he still is). Sounds like he had some issues with grades too which affected his school choices but have now been resolved.
Personally I'm very excited about him and think he has a lot of potential. But I'd guess he will need a bit of time to bulk up, learn our playbook, and earn the coaches trust before we see him on the field a ton.
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Dynasty Maker [3102]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:32 PM
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Go ahead an watch his film then let me know smdh
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Standout [240]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:34 PM
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Happy to have him!!
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Orange Immortal [63020]
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Not at all. In fact, this will become a new norm. Bigger schools harvesting from
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:35 PM
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smaller schools. High school to Group of 5 to the big boys. Just a new reality.
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:39 PM
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Wesco came from: Midlothian High School. that seems to be working out.
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Rival Killer [2736]
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Wesco is a 5 star recruit.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:45 PM
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Wttf
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:41 PM
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That is what the Portal has to offer and one day you guys will understand that.
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CU Medallion [18981]
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In no way, shape, or form.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:42 PM
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Kids grow and mature differently. Seems like a late bloomer who is now rounding into form. I'm sure all parties involved are enthused about the type of tools we have to help develop him further, even if it's just for one year.
Go Tigers! Go Tristan!
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Rival Killer [2630]
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You're wanting to pay $1,000,000 to a WR that can't beat our current guys out?
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:52 PM
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This is (probably) low cost depth that will keep the locker room together.
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Heisman Winner [80785]
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Jerry Rice played at the football Mecca Mississippi Valley State. Larry Bird
Dec 18, 2024, 12:57 PM
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played at Indiana State.
Greatness is wherever you find it, it seems.
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Clemson Conqueror [11158]
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Money talks***
Dec 18, 2024, 1:11 PM
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Rival Killer [2964]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 18, 2024, 4:28 PM
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Not at all. Receiver isn’t a something we need a starter at. Wesco and Moore will be back next season. Brown more than likely will be back. And Dabo convinced Carter to come back when he had a mid round grade last season. I think he will do the same to Williams. He added a big body receiver who could help in red zone areas. Didn’t need a superstar player for receiver. Definitely need help on the other side the ball.
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MVP [530]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 18, 2024, 4:37 PM
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That we got a transfer, but he’s from Southeast Missouri State?
Is he really much better than any other receiver we have or will bring in? wherever he’s been playing he’s got 3 or 4 years of running routes and catching footballs on a 50x120yd grid. That’s resume enough imo compared to who we got now
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Clemson Conqueror [11523]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 18, 2024, 4:55 PM
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No. It sounds just fine and I didn't think a thing of it.
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
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Dec 18, 2024, 6:03 PM
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You do realize we just lost 2 receivers, right? Now, we bring in a 6’5” guy with 3 years experience and you really can’t figure out why? Maybe this will help:
How Tristan Smith will fit on Clemson football’s roster
Smith will provide depth for Clemson at wide receiver with Antonio Williams, T.J. Moore, Bryant Wesco Jr. and Tyler Brown involved in the starting rotation. His size allows him to be aggressive at the catch point and win one-on-one battles.
Smith had more than 100 receiving yards in three games and at least seven catches in eight games this season. He faces better competition in the ACC, but he has a wealth of experience to hold his own.
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CU Guru [1540]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 18, 2024, 10:36 PM
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Nope.
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Associate AD [1011]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 18, 2024, 11:40 PM
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Not at all!!! Do you watch the NFL Draft?? They get quite a few players from the smaller schools.
I am not going to judge where he came from. I am more interested in what he is bringing with him.
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Solid Orange [1324]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 19, 2024, 12:36 AM
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Not at all. His film looked great to me. Dude had almost 1000 yds Rec this year. Good height. I would expect him to be in the two deep and basically get the snaps that Stellato would have gotten had he stayed
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Valley Protector [1401]
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My only concern was/is the caliber....
Dec 19, 2024, 12:49 AM
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of teams who we were in contention with for his signing/verifiable offers etc.
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Tiger Titan [47444]
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I am thrilled that we used the portal.
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Dec 19, 2024, 1:49 AM
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For Dabo to use it to bring someone in, when we know he prefers not to, that tells me he must really like the guy and think he can help us.
That’s exciting.
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Standout [236]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 19, 2024, 2:29 AM
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He is a junior so would think experience alone he is better off than a true Freshman.
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Orange Blooded [2304]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 19, 2024, 5:06 AM
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Come on man. We used the portal to get a depth guy with length. He fills a need and seems to be pretty good. And he is from GA so he knows the competition he is stepping into.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [98436]
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No, and the legacy/nepotism scholarships didn't bother or puzzle me either.***
Dec 19, 2024, 5:28 AM
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Clemson Sports Icon [58511]
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Re: Does it not kind of anger or puzzle you
Dec 19, 2024, 6:34 AM
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Never underestimate small college receivers. (See Jerry Rice.)
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