Re: Do you mean communism?

Russia did go from the poorest country in Europe, prior to 1917, to the 2nd world power by 1975, while battling through a revolution, civil war, and two world wars that killed over 50 million citizens. China is a world power right now. I wouldn’t say that communism has been a complete failure. There are many things that we can learn from the collapse of the Soviet Union. We would obviously avoid the censorship that China puts on its people. We would avoid the psychotic dictatorship that North Koreans have to endure, because we have democratic institutions put in place.

I’m not convinced that it couldn’t work. Also, I’m not saying that it could work. I simply don’t know. I like hearing arguments on both sides though.

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Re: Socialism and the University of South Carolina

Sep 10, 2018, 11:58 AM

I don’t know if anybody told you this, but capitalism existed before the United States. Many countries adopted capitalism, but rejected it after a few decades. Capitalism failed in its earliest forms while emerging from Feudalism, but people learned from their mistakes. Socialism/Communism is the same way. It is failing in its earliest forms, but that doesn’t mean countries can’t learn from their mistakes.

Let’s take the Soviet Union as an example. Prior to 1917, Russia was the poorest of the European countries. Most of their citizens lived in extreme poverty. They were mostly illiterate. Mostly agricultural. Then they have a revolution, followed by a Civil War, followed by WW1, and then WW2 after that. By 1975, Russia was the 2nd superpower in the world. Communism took them from the poorest European country to the 2nd world power in a matter of 50 years, while fighting through a civil war and two world wars. Now, they collapsed, and they did horrible things. There’s no denying that. But, if you look at the two countries over the last 300 years that have eliminated more poverty than everybody else: it’s Russia and China.

Capitalism has internal conflicts that are manifesting themselves today. And it’s happening everywhere. Here, Europe, and Japan. We are the capitalists, and all of us are experiencing massive problems. Our middle classes are continually getting poorer. Marx saw this coming. Now, we’ve put in safety measures to prevent the total collapse of the system. Remember what FDR did after the Great Depression. Europe is creating somewhat of a welfare state. Japan has social programs as well. But, capitalism is still eating itself alive. We just went through a global financial crisis 10 years ago. Another one is on its way, and most economists believe that it will be even worse.

Food for thought.

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Socialism and the University of South Carolina

what % of the population want socialism?

I’d say 51%

Do you mean communism?