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Ring of Honor [21133]
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Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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2019-2020 - We don't need to. Our players don't leave.
2021-2022 - We don't lose starters to the portal.
2023 - ?
We are on track to lose 11-12 players to the portal for the 3rd year in a row. This time it includes 2 starters thus far. We've made one offer to a D2 Olineman. What on earth is going on? Can someone in the media get to the bottom of this mess as to why a program like Clemson is so different than every other in America???
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 8:58 AM
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I'll admit....it's very concerning. I trust Dabo but I have to wonder why we're not shopping
for receivers, a QB, and some linemen
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Absence of evidence...
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Dec 6, 2023, 8:59 AM
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is not evidence of absence.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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That's too philosophical and elite thinking to be on here.***
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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It also provides no substance to the discussion
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:05 AM
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Absence of evidence is also not evidence.
See I can do it too....
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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His was better, but A for the effort.***
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Youre making it up as usual.
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Dec 8, 2023, 1:37 PM
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Another day another ##### session from you.
You obviously wake up everyday looking for something to complain about. Do you have testicles? Why are such a miserable person?
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Re: Absence of evidence...
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Dec 6, 2023, 10:23 AM
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Absence is absence...
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Top TigerNet [32267]
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evidence is evidence...***
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Rival Killer [2850]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:02 AM
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The portal just opened Monday. Less than 5% of those in the portal have selected a school. Give it time. Dabo can’t just offer a kid without properly scouting and meeting them. Give it time.
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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This would make sense if there wasn't already
Dec 6, 2023, 9:10 AM
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activity flying around through CFB with offers and scheduling visits. We have 1.
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Clemson Icon [25444]
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Do you feel you know everything that Coach Swinney and his staff are doing ?
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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This the same type of crap you and other's said in past offseasons
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:17 AM
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and yet we got Hunter Johnson and Bear Bryant IX
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13 years + Morehead = fail***
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Athletic Dir [1163]
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APA reference guide: figments of the imagination..
Dec 7, 2023, 10:43 PM
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Enlighten me, this "tampering rule" you pumpers are always keen to reference, please cite this obscurity—
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Dynasty Maker [3513]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:24 AM
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Yeah right , I can assure you most of the top players already have offers from multiple schools.
Some are done deals just not reported yet.
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Orange Elite [5478]
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Extremely concerning, but...
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:03 AM
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I'm holding out faith that Dabo is finally get serious about recruiting the portal, and leveraging our NIL collective to do so. The two go hand in hand, so an approach without NIL is not serious.
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Athletic Dir [889]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:08 AM
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I think the key difference with the 2 starters leaving this year is what each should expect in playing time moving forward. I think those 2 position and head coach conversations had a lot to do with it.
Kubs needs a great season of un-injured, starter snaps to improve his draft grade. He has a kid to take care of. No doubt there is probably an NIL consideration with his rumored move back to Texas. I don't slight his move at all. The Tiger DB depth is pretty good so I'm not terribly concerned about it.
I don't think Beaux is much different. His blocking tape is terrible. He knows the balance of pass vs run isn't going to change much until we have the WR and QB talent to get a high level of production. He's thinking about getting into a situation where he is either THE guy or a guy on a team where the passing reps are high and he can push his stock. Again, don't fault him at all for it.
The other 8 or 10 guys fall into the same category of previous players. They just aren't going to get the PT they want. Ojiegbe may be an exception to that.
I'm not on the panic button, yet. I'm definitely in the "C'mon, Dabo." boat though. If not this off season, I just don't know when the ###### gets flipped. Great coaching hires and a nice incoming class but the big holes in the roster SCREAM transfers based on what we have all seen on the field and the little info we get out of practices and sorting all the coach speak from the staff. I'm not in the "######, Dabo" boat yet but I'm checking prices.
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Athletic Dir [889]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 6, 2023, 9:09 AM
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So now s c r i p t is censored? I get d a m m i t, but s c r i p t ?
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All-TigerNet [5642]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 6, 2023, 11:22 AM
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It has been banned for a long time, because it's an IT term used in making changes across multiple entries.
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Head Coach [938]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 8, 2023, 6:45 AM
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They probably shouldn't still be running a 20 year old website and refusing to update it. AI could make a better interface in 5 minutes.
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Valley Protector [1426]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 8, 2023, 10:11 AM
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I can tell you don’t work in IT.
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CU Guru [1589]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:14 AM
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Plus the committee pretty much told everyone you need 2 elite qbs. So we need Cade to develop and a high level backup (most likely from the portal)
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Hall of Famer [8874]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:18 AM
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Another portal guru....send your resume to Dabo. If you are as good at evaluating and getting talent from the portal as you think, you should be a shoe in to join the staff
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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It would have been much easier for you to type
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:20 AM
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"I have nothing to add to the discussion"
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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Or perhaps
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"Tell 'em coot, no one knows losing better than you."
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Athletic Dir [1163]
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Close...
Dec 8, 2023, 10:56 PM
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the literal translation is: "I have sh!+4brains, please excuse me".
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Clemson Conqueror [11996]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:24 AM
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The portal is overrun with coots and I haven’t seen their immunization records.
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:25 AM
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Well to be fair until this year we never had legit starters leaving the program.
This deal has evolved in 2 years to something entirely different imo.
SC has a kicker in the portal. A kicker? What the heck. Crazy times.
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Clemson Conqueror [11996]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:30 AM
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What is a “kicker”?
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Clemson Conqueror [11996]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:31 AM
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and why should we have one?
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Athletic Dir [889]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:34 AM
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This guy out here asking the important questions.
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Clemson Conqueror [11996]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:39 AM
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Just thinking outside the box. I’d be looking for a player that scores touchdowns that are worth 28 points
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:35 AM
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Yea we may to portal a kicker. IMO that is our biggest need unless we can find another former player that has re enrolled for next year.
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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I hope Nolan Hauser is the truth!***
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:36 AM
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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What about players that were backups that would have been starters in their junior or senior season. Also, do you consider DJ a legit starter that transferred? Also Chez Melusi, Derion Kendrick, Mike Jones and Chase Brice all transferred and all would have helped the team. Chase Brice's departure being the most devastating to the teams offensive performance.
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:46 AM
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You totally have the wrong idea about the portal. Find a site that lists the players in the portal and see how few "top" players are listed. There may be 2 or 3 guys that could would actually be interested in playing at Clemson and could help us. The Portal is not Walmart where there is an abundance of things to be had.
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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If this is what you think
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:53 AM
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then you know nothing about College Football outside of Clemson, SC....based on your post history it matches up.
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Re: If this is what you think
Dec 7, 2023, 1:07 PM
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I'd say the opposite is true.
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Dec 6, 2023, 9:50 AM
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I saved the depth chart for the FSU game and from my count, we are losing 21 players to end of eligibility, the NFL or the Portal and we have 18 commitments. The roof has not fallen.
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Solid Orange [1326]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
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Right now based on reading a very detailed post today about the status of our total roster, the number of folks leaving and the number predicted to come in as freshmen, it leaves just two scholarship spots for incoming portal players despite the number we had leave through the portal already.
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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We're on a rate to lose 4 more to the portal
Dec 6, 2023, 11:17 AM
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We lost the same # this time last year.
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Clemson Icon [27616]
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I think that
Dec 7, 2023, 8:44 AM
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It would be unusual if coach Swinney contacted the”fans “ informing them of his intentions regarding the portal.
It would be very rare if any coach, especially one as great as Swinney, would make his intentions known to everyone.
Let the coaches run the show.
Do your part by attending the games and become a genuine Tiger supporter.
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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He wouldn't need to
Dec 7, 2023, 8:50 AM
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You think all these other coaches are "contacting their fans". No....the offers are being shared on social media by the players and reporters. The announcements for visits are being shared on social media by the players and reporters. Talk and interest shared on social media by the players and reporters. Of course we don't need Swinney to let us know. If he were making effort to offer portal players we would know anyway.
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 7, 2023, 3:30 PM
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I am pretty sure all years would have a “excuse” that there were not scholarships available.
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Clemson Conqueror [11996]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 7, 2023, 5:08 PM
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I was, uhhhhhhh, busy writing the Port Huron Statement. The original Port Huron Statement. Not the compromised second draft.
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 8, 2023, 10:05 AM
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We don't have scholarships to give players in the portal. We might have two left now that Carter is coming back
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 8, 2023, 1:28 PM
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Where is your check for NIL? Where is your $800k for Juice Wells? Step up and buy a player.
You people sit around crying about the portal and don't have any money to buy a top player.
Toriano Pride was rated the #1 CB in the Portal and was buried on our depth chart. Dabo has blue chips everywhere.
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Orange Phenom [14535]
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Re: Excuses for not maximizing the portal
Dec 18, 2023, 9:35 AM
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Two weeks could make a big difference.
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you've been told at least 3 dozen times
Dec 18, 2023, 9:40 AM
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but you don't want to believe anything the coaches/administration/users say so why do you keep asking?
if you don't understand why Clemson is different from every 1 else by now then you probably never will.
The phrase is, "there's something in those hills" not "there is something in those hills that is just like every one else."
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Ring of Honor [21133]
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Something in those hills
Dec 18, 2023, 10:04 AM
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Doesn’t get us back to the playoffs. It also didn’t work back when we needed better facilities. It’s not gonna work when we need to use the portal either.
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