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Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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It's a moot point at this juncture.
Clemson is gaining most of the recruits that they offer. Unless you've been hiding under a rock for the past 15 seasons, Head Coach Dabo Swinney is ultra selective in who receives an offer from Clemson. Whenever I scroll down this list, I see a bevy of highly regarded recruits either committed to Clemson as a HARD commit, or they're extremely warm towards Clemson. Transfer portal be darned, we don't need it and soon the entire nation will bear witness to a dynasty run to the likes which they've never witnessed. Mark my words because you've heard here first. Before Coach Swinney retires from Lil Ole Clemson, he will have won more national championships than Nick Saban or any other head football coach in history. Believe that...
https://247sports.com/college/clemson/season/2025-football/offers/
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for it to even be possible for him to accomplish what you predict......
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he would HAVE to use the portal........along with other things.
but your words are "marked" nonetheless
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Re: for it to even be possible for him to accomplish what you predict......
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I don't think we do need the portal and Clemson already has an NIL program in place that's being managed the morally correct way. Sooner rather than later, the NCAA and even Congress will get directly involved and regulate the NIL structure.
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Re: for it to even be possible for him to accomplish what you predict......
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I agree.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Jun 7, 2024, 7:46 PM
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I’m pretty sure I’ve read this elsewhere on the TigerNets
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All-In [10664]
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Jun 7, 2024, 7:47 PM
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Could've been from me because I've been plastering it all over the interwebs to include TNET.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Jun 8, 2024, 8:24 AM
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I disagree. Since the portal has exploded, every team to win a championship has had many stud transfers. It’s like having a resource available and refusing to use it. Example: college tutoring. In capstone courses which are gatekeepers to weed out those without mental acumen to succeed in the field you must use all resources available. It’s kinda like refusing to use free tutor services because you believe they do not work. There is strong evidence that supports the validity of tutoring. There is also strong evidence that the transfer portal is making teams instantly better. FSU was a squad that was built through the portal. They were one injury away from winning it all. Dabo can use the portal and retain his dignity. He can still recruit high character players through the portal. Remember how LSU shellacked us in the Natty?! Portal built. 2019-2024 ncaa champions all had multiple starters from the portal. It’s just a fact.
That said, football the way Dabo does it is all but dead. Can he have a great year? Absolutely. But, he’s handcuffing himself against teams that utilize all the tools available. Dabo has earned a lifetime contract in this donors eyes. But, we are falling behind in the arms race.
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Orange Elite [5257]
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Plus our D has been top echelon and we haven’t needed the portal to make that the case. The issue is the coaching on the O side of the ball and missing on recruits offensively. The recruiting quality gets better as you have better coaches who develop talent and get them into the NFL.
To “recruit” the portal you have to buy the players and/or tamper with other team’s players to buy them for Clemson. Dabo nor Clemson will go there, so the players left who are not looking for a payday are not that good to start for us and very few want to play backup.
Again, if you fix the O coaching like we have on D, you don’t need the portal.
And another thing to keep in mind, once the universities make players employees and put them under contracts to get paid, the # of players being able to transfer will dry up significantly. That day is coming very soon after the last NCAA court settlement.
So Dabo’s approach will be vindicated and that vindication starts this year. Watch and see.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Jun 8, 2024, 12:43 PM
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Plus our D has been top echelon and we haven’t needed the portal to make that the case. The issue is the coaching on the O side of the ball and missing on recruits offensively. The recruiting quality gets better as you have better coaches who develop talent and get them into the NFL.
To “recruit” the portal you have to buy the players and/or tamper with other team’s players to buy them for Clemson. Dabo nor Clemson will go there, so the players left who are not looking for a payday are not that good to start for us and very few want to play backup.
Again, if you fix the O coaching like we have on D, you don’t need the portal.
And another thing to keep in mind, once the universities make players employees and put them under contracts to get paid, the # of players being able to transfer will dry up significantly. That day is coming very soon after the last NCAA court settlement.
So Dabo’s approach will be vindicated and that vindication starts this year. Watch and see.
How do you say it? "That's a BINGO!"
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Jun 8, 2024, 12:40 PM
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I disagree. Since the portal has exploded, every team to win a championship has had many stud transfers. It’s like having a resource available and refusing to use it. Example: college tutoring. In capstone courses which are gatekeepers to weed out those without mental acumen to succeed in the field you must use all resources available. It’s kinda like refusing to use free tutor services because you believe they do not work. There is strong evidence that supports the validity of tutoring. There is also strong evidence that the transfer portal is making teams instantly better. FSU was a squad that was built through the portal. They were one injury away from winning it all. Dabo can use the portal and retain his dignity. He can still recruit high character players through the portal. Remember how LSU shellacked us in the Natty?! Portal built. 2019-2024 ncaa champions all had multiple starters from the portal. It’s just a fact.
That said, football the way Dabo does it is all but dead. Can he have a great year? Absolutely. But, he’s handcuffing himself against teams that utilize all the tools available. Dabo has earned a lifetime contract in this donors eyes. But, we are falling behind in the arms race.
Clemson is not falling behind, and the portal hasn't been around long enough to provide data which supports such a claim. Further, the portal hasn't been around long enough to provide anyone with the evidence of the negative impact it can have on a program. I would say Texas A&M and FSU are going to be great models to extract that data from. You see what happened during that Playoff snub. Every transfer portal player opted out of playing. Colorado has recruited top talent from the portal and they flat out stink. Texas A&M allegedly spent $35million on NIL and transfers only to go 3-9 or something like that. Again, the old-fashioned way of recruiting, developing, and graduating players I believe will prove to be the best method. For those who rely on the portal, it will be irreversible and for schools such as Clemson, we won't have to worry about changing anything but our socks at the end of the day.
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But we are falling behind. Our losses have gone up each year the last few years.
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It is not a ringing endorsement of Dabo’s approach.
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Re: But we are falling behind. Our losses have gone up each year the last few years.
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It's not needed for Clemson football. Of course you know more than Dabo though.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Jun 7, 2024, 8:26 PM
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I really don't give a #### what anybody says about Dabo not using the portal, but I do want Dabo to make a fool out of that Dumbas$ named Paul Biotch and show him just how incredibly stupid he and his comments are about Dabo and his team heading down hill!!!
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Jun 8, 2024, 8:40 AM
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Wish I could give you a 1000 thumbs up for that post
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Clemson baseball has portal players Clemson basketball has portal players and Clemson soccer have portal players. Most fans are not saying go Colorado style but one or two portal players would be nice and Dabo could use the same method for recruiting portal players as he has with High school players. Not all these kids are bad they are just looking for a second chance somewhere to land on there feet. I mean they are 17-18 years old when they make there decision to pick a college and with all the things thrown there way some times they do not make the right decision for themselves.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Jun 7, 2024, 9:02 PM
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Clemson baseball has portal players Clemson basketball has portal players and Clemson soccer have portal players. Most fans are not saying go Colorado style but one or two portal players would be nice and Dabo could use the same method for recruiting portal players as he has with High school players. Not all these kids are bad they are just looking for a second chance somewhere to land on there feet. I mean they are 17-18 years old when they make there decision to pick a college and with all the things thrown there way some times they do not make the right decision for themselves.
Why would we waste a scholarship on a player who wasn't good enough to get the starting role at another team? Of course, some are starters seeking a pay day and those kinds of players can keep on trucking because I wouldn't want that kind of attitude in the locker room if I were a coach. Clemson Basketball and Baseball needed to fill gaps, we have depth and don't require portal players for the football program. We don't rebuild, we reload on both sides of the ball, and it appears as if Clemson is about to score huge with offensive linemen.
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If you think only players that cant start at their school are in portal
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Jun 7, 2024, 9:46 PM
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then you aren’t paying attention
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Re: If you think only players that cant start at their school are in portal
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Jun 7, 2024, 9:52 PM
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True - I saw that FSU picked up a stud QB from a PAC-2 team who could probably start anywhere in the country.
I’ll take Cade.
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Re: If you think only players that cant start at their school are in portal
Jun 8, 2024, 7:18 AM
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That's my question. If we had picked up a QB who had a couple of nice games over 2 seasons with an ACC team and a mediocre year with a PAC What's Left team would we be the top ranked ACC team?
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Re: If you think only players that cant start at their school are in portal
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True - I saw that FSU picked up a stud QB from a PAC-2 team who could probably start anywhere in the country.
I’ll take Cade.
Cade. lol. He sucks. You are a loser. Raise your standards.
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Re: If you think only players that cant start at their school are in portal
Jun 9, 2024, 9:12 PM
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True - I saw that FSU picked up a stud QB from a PAC-2 team who could probably start anywhere in the country.
I’ll take Cade. Cade. lol. He sucks. You are a loser. Raise your standards.
I smell chicken in this thread... I'm not going to say his name, but it rhymes with VantheBengal.
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Clemson baseball and basketball are better than Clemson football this year.
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Men’s basketball made Elite Eight.
Men’s baseball is in final 16 at minimum.
Football, despite more resources and better recruiting classes, did worse than both.
That should tell you something about the transfer portal and Dabo’s horrible approach to it.
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Assistant coaching hires on O and Covid year hurt recruiting and development
Jun 8, 2024, 1:52 PM
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Let’s see how they do with this staff in place for a couple of years first.
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90% of portal players either want to start and/or be paid off Clemson is not
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Going to pay the players to get them to come here and many who are leftover and who haven’t been bought typically are not good enough to start for us. Really would be a rare find for the 1 or 2 positions where we have a need for a starter quality player.
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For Those Who Disagree
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Jun 8, 2024, 12:30 AM
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So, you who disagree are telling me that with the EMBARRASSMENT of riches on the recruiting trail, we need to use the transfer portal? I don't think so.
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I like your thought process however anytime you miss on a recruit (I.e. big sinco) it sets the program back. The bigger the miss (position criticality) the more it sets you back. That’s where the portal might be required. I hope you’re right.
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Better assistant coaches and you dont miss on recruits as much
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Jun 8, 2024, 9:35 AM
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Just saying. Dabo fixing the coaching on the O side of the ball so that players can see they will be developed and get a chance at the NFL will go a long ways to addressing our recruiting quality. Just look at our D quality during this same period. It hasn’t fallen off much at all. It’s the O coaching that set us back.
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Re: For Those Who Disagree
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I like your thought process however anytime you miss on a recruit (I.e. big sinco) it sets the program back. The bigger the miss (position criticality) the more it sets you back. That’s where the portal might be required. I hope you’re right.
Big Stinko couldn't throw an accurate pass longer than 15 yards at Clemson. We didn't MISS anything with him. Good riddance! Glad he is at FSU and will lose lots of games for them.
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Campus Hero [13125]
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We disagree on the definition of most
Jun 8, 2024, 8:15 AM
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According to the same website you linked we've offered 70 prospects in '25 and only secured 13 commitments; so 81% of the guys we want don't appear to want to come to Clemson. So your position is that if one of those 57 other guys one day ends up in the portal then they're no longer "our type of guy" and we shouldn't want them?
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There is a reason they are in the portal they want to start somewhere and could
Jun 8, 2024, 9:37 AM
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Not do that at Clemson.
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Campus Hero [13125]
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Keon Coleman, AD Mitchell, Trevis Hunter, Fentrell Cypress
Jun 8, 2024, 9:50 AM
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If a guy is good enough to transfer into Jawja, 0310 state, Bama…they’re good enough to play for us.
Riddle me this Batman if Dabo believes it’s best for Clemson to completely stay away from the portal why did he unsuccessfully try to get several players out of it over the last 2 years? He’s stated multiple times that we went after a few O-linemen and they chose other schools; I believe he said “they have to want you too”. It was only after we became the only power 5 school to not get a transfer that the conversation shifted to “we don’t need to use the portal”.
Dabo knows that we can improve our talent level by selectively pulling guys out of the portal he’s just not been able to figure out YET how to get that done; he will.
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Re: Keon Coleman, AD Mitchell, Trevis Hunter, Fentrell Cypress
Jun 8, 2024, 10:32 AM
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See, you miss the point altogether… most of the high end portal talent is either tampered with and bought ahead of time or they want a pay day coming out of the portal or they want a guaranteed starting job. All of which Clemson is not going to do.
We did find and offered 2 or 3 Oline guys but they chose elsewhere. So we are trying but all our criteria have to align before it can. Ever happen and that is going to be a rarity, so don’t bank on the portal helping too often.
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No you absolutely miss the point
Jun 8, 2024, 4:22 PM
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The whole argument the OP made is that we don't NEED to use the portal because we're continuing to recruit well; this is false. Jawja, Bama, and the other elite teams are recruiting as well as us AND using the portal that's all this thread is about.
No one is arguing with you that we're not willing to tamper and getting quality players out of the portal will be exceedingly hard; that point is conceded. However it doesn't change the fact the we absolutely need to get players out of it in order to compete for natties; so Dabo is gonna have to figure something out
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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You are fighting a dead issue (you should not have messed up galloping horse) many on this site...good Tigers all, do not believe in Dabo or his dream...they want Clemson to be just like the injuns and the sodomites and buy a football team! I think Dabo believes his plan will work and maybe even better mow...we can give a freshman a chance to develop and not fear replacement with a 3 year starter from LSU with 9 hours of class work and a .2 gpa!..Dabo and company can still pick em, train em and graduate them...our protagonists want us to buy em!
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I think you meant to use the word antagonists, but nice try anyway
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Just because someone believes that it's gonna be difficult to win natties without using a roster building tool that literally every other team uses, doesn't mean they don't believe in their leader. Selective use of the portal by other elite teams gives them a talent advantage over us; that is fact.
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You miss a key issue those teams buy the players and tamper Clemson wont***
Jun 8, 2024, 9:41 AM
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Campus Hero [13125]
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Of course; thats not the point of the thread the OP said we dont need to use
Jun 8, 2024, 9:54 AM
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The portal. No one said it would be easy, but in order to be able to compete at the absolute highest level we’ll need to figure it out. Until the rules change you’re not gonna win a natty without getting better through the portal.
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The criteria we have limits our ability to land high quality players so if all
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Jun 8, 2024, 10:27 AM
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Stars align, we should offer a portal guy or two just like we did for the olinemen who didn’t choose Clemson. So we are trying. Here’s why it is only going to be a rarity when all these things are true:
1. We must have a position need.
2. The player isn’t already planning to go to a team even prior to entering the portal (no tampering).
3. The player doesn’t want a pay day in order to come to Clemson.
4. The player has to be good enough to possibly start for us and be willing to be a backup if he doesn’t win the starting job.
5. The player offered actually accepts and signs with Clemson.
You check all of those boxes and you will see us use the portal.
In the meantime, hire good position and assistant coaches who can spot talent when recruiting high school talent and develop that talent. Then if we get lucky in the portal with someone who meets the above criteria, snag 1 or 2 portal guys to augment the team.
It is a simple formula actually.
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Re: The criteria we have limits our ability to land high quality players so if all
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The portal is exactly the reason that FSU is a crap program that let the ACC, the Orange Bowl and football fans everywhere down in the dirt...those mercenaries quit when Travis was hurt , thinking about that next payday which made the starting QB hit the portal and the rest is Orange Bowl history...the FSU coach is committed to buying a team...Lovell knows he can't develop one from scratch so let's get Dabo to be like Navell...Many so called CLEMSON fans want us to win at any cost...Don't believe that is Dabos plan!
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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Another poster that reads what he wants. Still waiting or anyone to give an example of where a Clemson fan wants to build just through the portal - which is what you are insinuating.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
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I admire your enthusiasm and optimism and I agree but that will not happen unless our coach stops hiring assistants that have little or no division 1 experience. We need good coaches to coach up and bring the best out of our players. The hiring of coaches like Mat Luke needs to be the standard and not the exception.
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^^^ FAIR POINT ^^^ Coaching is the focus point here!***
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 9:31 AM
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Couldn't agree more Chesty.
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with a stud receiver and a couple of experienced olinman and we easily win the ACC last year. We have no idea how this season will unfold, so I am not sure why you are so confident, even the coaches have no clue how things will play out. Now a question off need, or recruiting philosophy, different things. But yeah, we need guys at key positions to be elite. Another running back, and a couple of linebackers would have been great this year
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We would not buy the players or tamper so we couldnt get any good ones
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That is the issue with the portal. If you are trying to use it the right way, you are stuck sucking hind teet. You gotta tamper and buy to get someone who could actually be a starter to come to Clemson. That ain’t happening as long as Dabo and Neff are at Clemson.
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Re: BS
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We are fine at LB and had no room. We have our starters..
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 9:56 AM
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Personally, I'd just like to see us recruit the best players available, no matter where they are, as long as they fit our culture and represent us the right way. High school recruiting is not an exact science and we don't get it right all the time. Couple that with those transferring out and it leaves a few gaps to be filled. I'd rather us consider a few "ready now" players from the portal than to have to recruit the last of the uncommitted 2*/3* players, or washed up grad transfers. Otherwise, you sit back for 2-3 seasons waiting for these late commits to develop which contributes to why you go seasons in a row missing playoffs or conference championships.
I like our team being predominantly players we recruit and develop, but I also like the option to take 3-4 players a year, when others transfer out, to help fill gaps where needed. We did make an effort to sign some OL to help us this year but we missed on all three. I just hope we keep making the effort where it makes sense.
I also don't think it helps stating no one in the portal is good enough to play at Clemson. If you ever do want someone to consider you, those kinds of things definitely get used against you.
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The players who are either not tampered with and wanting $$ are rarely good
Jun 8, 2024, 10:14 AM
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Enough to start for Clemson. That was the point Dabo was making. We are not interested in tampering nor buying player to get portal players. Given that constraint and whatever limited position needs we have, there are few players left who would start for Clemson. Just the facts.
Every now and then we may have everything align and have a portal player who is above board and has the talent to compete for a starting job for a position we actually need help at. If that happens then we try to thread the needle and land that guy. But don’t hold your breath waiting for all those stars to align!
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Re: The players who are either not tampered with and wanting $$ are rarely good
Jun 8, 2024, 10:21 AM
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I'm sure that is probably what he meant; it just wasn't what he said. Nor was it the way anyone outside of Clemson took it.
The exact quote:
"Most of the guys in the portal aren't good enough to play for us."
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If yyou listen to the whole interview that one line was take out of context
Jun 8, 2024, 10:43 AM
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Dabo explained that once you eliminate the players who aren’t tampered with and who don’t want a pay day, the ones left are typically not good enough to compete for a starting job at Clemson. The Dabo haters love to make him out to be a portal hater. He offered 3 OLINE guys that met our criteria but all chose to go elsewhere. Dabo isn’t going to start buying players - portal or not. The players who make that a priority are not the character types he wants around the program.
Everyone berating him for having those standards just need to get over it. We would rather lose following the rules than win breaking them. Dont know what to tell ya. Tough t1tty!
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Re: If yyou listen to the whole interview that one line was take out of context
Jun 8, 2024, 10:54 AM
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My point was more around perception vs. reality. The way you want to rationalize it is fine but it isn't the way most people took it, it isn't the way most media reported it, and it isn't the way most programs recruiting against us will use it. They will run with the sound bite, like everyone else and not the full context of the interview. And, when you couple that with the fact that we are the only P5 program in the country who isn't embracing it, it would seem to reinforce the sound bite. You know, that "actions speak louder than words" thing.
That's just the reality of how things are these days.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 10:03 AM
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The powers that be won’t be happy until they completely destroy college Football as we know it.
Dabo is doing what’s best for Clemson now but they will make this an arms 💰💰💰💰💰💵💵💵💵💵💰💰💰💰 race that for the most part. The ones with the most money will win it all.
Competition won’t be what it was 3-5 years ago. It will be the ones with the money & the ones without the money.
It’s going to kill the fan base of college football in my opinion.
Dabo will keep us competitive for the trophy right up to the end or when he’s had enough.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 10:14 AM
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We should really use the portal more...
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We tried we offered 3 Olinemen and they said no thank you
Jun 8, 2024, 10:45 AM
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Not sure what you want Dabo to do. He ain’t going to tamper or buy the players, that is for sure!
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Re: We tried we offered 3 Olinemen and they said no thank you
Jun 8, 2024, 11:00 AM
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He doesn't have to. His recruiting efforts can be equally as effective in the portal as they are in HS. He doesn't have to change anything other than maybe his attitude about it and his public comments about it. And he can be as highly selective as he wants to be. There are good players in the portal, not all of whom want a payoff to come and play for a great program like Clemson. Dabo overcomes that all the time with HS recruiting related to NIL.
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Well there have to be quality players for the select positions of need too***
Jun 8, 2024, 11:22 AM
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Re: Well there have to be quality players for the select positions of need too***
Jun 8, 2024, 11:27 AM
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Absolutely, which is what I meant when I said he can be "highly selective"...
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 12:51 PM
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It might hurt the message but I don't think it would hurt recruiting. The fact we went after 3 OL in the portal kind of proves that we believe we can do both, if we are targeted and selective about it. Most kids understand that if someone leaves early (either for the draft or transfer) and you don't have experience behind them, you have an opportunity to fill that gap with a known and experienced quantity. If you rush guys before they are ready then they become the weakest link which hurts everyone.
This is one of the big reasons that our OL has been a work in progress for the last 3 years as we kept trying to find a rotation that was consistent and just never really clicked like we hoped because the talent wasn't really what we needed. As a result, our QBs have been running for their lives the last couple of seasons. It is also why Cade seems to perform better in up tempo rather than in the pocket. He is good when he has time and I hope our OL steps up this season and gives it to him.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 1:02 PM
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I think it might hurt our recruiting. It would change who we are as a program and it's not needed. Dabo is building.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 1:15 PM
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I guess they weren't worried about that when they offered 3 OL from the portal...
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Re: Cade has to throw passes on time first he is slow to react***
Jun 8, 2024, 1:18 PM
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Which tends to be what happens when you go up tempo. You get the ball out of your hands quickly and you don't have a lot of time to process/react like you do from the pocket. That last drive against Kentucky exemplified the point.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 8, 2024, 12:55 PM
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Don’t be mad when 5 of them transfer by Junior year and we backfill with another 18yo
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You ####### idiot! No team in America can win anymore without using the portal you stupid ######.
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 9, 2024, 7:48 PM
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Geez dude chill the phuque out
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The capital letters and exclamation point gives your post that extra oomph.
Jun 9, 2024, 10:16 AM
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Re: Do Not Tell Me We Need To Use The Portal Ever Again!
Jun 9, 2024, 3:51 PM
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You need to use the Portal.
Couple things here:
1) There is a gross overgeneralization that every guy in the portal represents some sort of risk, while at the same time every high school guy represents no risk. This is simply not reality. Yes, it's true in some cases, but not true in others. Every single guy in the portal started out as a high school recruit.
2) For the top 10 or so teams, the margins are very thin. For a program to purposefully eliminate one way to help at the margin seems foolhardy (and that's probably putting it mildly). Doesn't mean you have to go all-in on transfers, but there are guys who can help out in spots and fit into the locker room.
It's not unlike a company that has been in business for a long time. You have to adapt to ever changing market conditions. Do you want to stay profitable, or become a buggy whip?
There are very few second acts in college football. Dabo may very well rebound and win another National Championship. But it's very unlikely he will do so with any consistency - certainly not like the 2016-18 years - without utilizing all of the tools that the changing landscape of the sport provides.
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