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There's only one National Anthem.
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Feb 13, 2023, 9:09 PM
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maybe I'm a lil responsive to the revelations over time of the depth of racism and discrimination that has occurred, and still occurs. If you were white and raised in the South (SC) like me, esp after 1954, you've been indoctrinated in it. I was a member of the Children of the Confederacy (UDC offshoot). I have yet to see a clear definition of "woke", other than issues that a segment of MAGA-types oppose. If you have one, post it. I think a person can still be a conservative, and still opposed to clear criminal activities vs non-whites by police (but blue lives matter). I think systemic racism still runs deep in our country (not just the South), and I hope it gets eliminated. This does not equate to reparations, excess benefits for non-whites, etc.
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Can you give me some examples of systemic racism?***
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Feb 13, 2023, 9:19 PM
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I think it's easy to try to explain away much of the
Feb 13, 2023, 9:38 PM
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the disparity, but the magnitude across multiple measures, plus the circumstances you should see in your own life, means something is going on. Are you suggesting there's no systemic racism going on? Please give me examples of why this is not true.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/GLOBAL-RACE/USA/nmopajawjva/#retirement The race gap How U.S. systemic racism plays out in Black lives
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Re: I think it's easy to try to explain away much of the
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Feb 13, 2023, 10:10 PM
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Those are examples of systemic racism???
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Dissecting the Reuters propaganda clip
Feb 16, 2023, 10:22 PM
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Dissecting the propagandistic aspects of the Reuters clip. When liberal suspend their ability to think, they embrace stupidity.
Preamble. Reuters subtly infers that white privilege’ is the reason for disparate outcomes between whites and blacks. Non-white / non-black ‘equalities of outcome’ are curiously excluded. Had Reuters included the non-white / non-black demographic, then the ‘more-than-equal’ outcomes for this third (ignored) demographic would ruin the implied premise of ‘white privilege.’
Opening paragraph. Missing context. The gap in ‘outcome equality’ is very different from ‘opportunity equality.’ Blacks are getting special considerations in public schools (inflated grades) and college admission favoritism. Regardless, blacks are still making less money than non-blacks. Sounds like grade inflation and unearned preferences for college admissions are deluding black students to not study hard enough and learn well enough to compete successfully in many fields of employment. Reuters ignores this.
Life expectancy. Missing context. Big changes take time and effort; there’s no genie in the lamp. Trends are favorable for blacks. Housing / neighborhood problems as contributors to the ongoing gap? High density govt funded housing … bad for blacks in that their skills of self sufficiency from generations past have been eroded. Now, too many blacks are clueless about how to be self sufficient.
Pregnancy related death disparities. Each pregnancy bears a risk of a fatal outcome for the expectant mother. Women who have a very difficult pregnancy and happen to survive are at greater risk of dying from a subsequent pregnancy; not all women are strong enough to be having kids. Getting pregnant is similar to Russian roulette, but with a multiplier factor for women who are prone to very difficult pregnancies. I don’t have stats, but white women have fewer children than black women. Odds are good that a high risk white woman will take preemptive birth control measures to avoid subsequent pregnancies. This probably isn’t the case as much with black women.
Behavioral changes / adjustments are the key. There is no confusion between white or black women about how pregnancies occur.
Maternal health / infant deaths: This gap could be easily reduced significantly … but behavioral changes by black women are necessary.
Food insecurity: When poor, don’t buy fast food or high cost convenience foods at the grocery store. The truly poor blacks get government food subsidies. The not-so-poverty-stricken blacks can choose to nourish themselves properly just the same as the unsubsidized (via parents or friends) white people often do: Kraft Mac & cheese (dry stuff in the box) - calories. Inexpensive brands of marked down bread. Selected cheap categories of canned meats when on sale. Generic brand multi vitamin pills. Canned veggies on sale. Marked down frozen veggies … eat them quickly if no frig at home. Drink tap water. Split rent by finding responsible roommates = more $ for food. At least with previous generations of finically strapped white people, this is how it’s done.
Educational inequality: Public school pandering to black kids is hurting more than helping. Rather than getting admitted to college based on untrue academic credentials, vocational school is the better option. Blacks who get BS degrees in art history won’t make any money anyway.
Student loan repayments: See above.
Health insurance: Choose the correct educational and career path, then this gap goes way down.
More later.
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Re: systemic classism is the more appropriate term
Feb 13, 2023, 10:30 PM
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i disagree as to "rarely"
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Re: systemic classism is the more appropriate term
Feb 14, 2023, 2:36 PM
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that this may be true may well have more to do with human nature than the system you seem to think causes it.
It doesn't fit your preferred narrative very well but this is one of the few countries where one can and consistently does rise. It is not at all unique in my work to encounter humble people with modest paying work accumulate a million or more.
This is also a country that will let one spend every last dime on trinkets and die with nothing but a lot of junk. It's really got a lot to do w choices.
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Systemic is hyperbolic nonsense adjective for classicism.
Feb 16, 2023, 9:26 PM
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Classicism obviously exists; no argument here.
“Systemic” classicism? B.S. There would be no infrastructure for helping the poor if classicism was truly “systemic” throughout society.
The infrastructure (both public and private) has been in place for decades in which people of poverty rise out of that social stratum.
The person in question must study, do his/her class work, and work in jobs to properly take advantage of that infrastructure.
Unfortunately, vote-buying policies demotivate many poverty stricken people by giving them enough money to watch TV and enable idle behavior. Just enough of their short term gratification needs are met to keep them from properly exerting themselves for their longer term success.
Just beautiful. Misguided ‘help the poor’ policies of today continue erode the’help the poor to help themselves’ programs of the past.
Many government gives the fish to the poverty stricken. Why should the poverty stricken bother learning how to fish?
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Re: I think it's easy to try to explain away much of the
Feb 14, 2023, 8:58 PM
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Differences in statistics does not equate to systemic racism.
Wow, you have been brainwashed if you believe most of that.
Systemic racism DOES indeed exist, but it is not what you think. The system that keeps blacks essentially helpless is run, pushed, promoted, funded by the democrats. It is called welfare, affirmative action, SNAP, EBT, etc. Generational welfare. Caving to race hustlers, the democrats keep the blacks down, living in crime and violence, and prevent them from becoming educated and independent.
Don't give them fish, teach them to fish. Was always true and forever will be.
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It’s in the dictionary, is that clear enough?***
Feb 13, 2023, 10:15 PM
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thanks for your 3 replies w/ nuthin but questions.
Feb 13, 2023, 10:38 PM
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helps me understand your point of view.
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Re: thanks for your 3 replies w/ nuthin but questions.
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Feb 13, 2023, 10:51 PM
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Re: thanks for your 3 replies w/ nuthin but questions.
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Feb 14, 2023, 8:27 AM
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Orignal woke: systemic racism is one reason that blacks have a harder time saving for retirement
New woke: math is racist
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Re: There's only one National Anthem.
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Feb 13, 2023, 9:23 PM
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More white people are killed by police every year than any other race and whites are killed more PER INTERACTION with police than are African Americans. Do you ever stop to wonder why you've never heard the name of a single one of these hundreds of dead white people the police kill every year? Of course we don't want bad cops on the streets but the narrative that blacks are being hunted, while other races are allowed to do whatever they want, is an entirely false one.
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I don't think blacks are being hunted.
Feb 13, 2023, 9:25 PM
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do you have legit stats on "whites are killed more PER INTERACTION with police than are African Americans"?
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Re: I don't think blacks are being hunted.
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Feb 14, 2023, 9:12 PM
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NoIntroduction
Approx twice as many whites are killed by cops as blacks. Not sure about per interaction.
Since 2015, Wapo has tracked cop killings. Demographics of those killed are: 3622 white (51%), 1905 black (27%), 1286 Hispanic (18%), 271 other. Per capita blacks are killed at ~2x rate of whites. Per capita blacks commit violent crime at a rate 5x to 7x that of whites. Combine the last two pieces of data and see what conclusion you might arrive at.
95% of all those killed are male. More than half are between 20 and 40 years old.
Top cities:
Los Angeles 132
Phoenix 106
Houston 91
Las Vegas 72
San Antonio 69
Albuquerque 59
Chicago 50
Columbus 49
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
Here's a good one for ya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
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I know of threats to burn a cross in a family's yard in
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Feb 13, 2023, 9:46 PM
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Camden. This was a family member who was raised dirt poor next to fellow dirt poor blacks. Didn't have a racist bone in his body. Is somebody going to defend that? Do I need to provide examples or stats? You got stats that say otherwise?
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As a small child, I witnessed a huge cross burning at a very
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public Klan rally on Cedar Lane Rd in Greenville. This would have been early/mid 1960s. For some reason my family was passing by; one of two McDonalds in Greenville at that time was located on Cedar Lane Rd, so we may have been there. The Klan rally/cross burning was just down the street, to the best of my recollection.
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It is very clear, he does not know what systemic
Feb 14, 2023, 9:13 PM
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racism is, or is supposed to me.
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Re: There's only one National Anthem.
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Feb 13, 2023, 11:53 PM
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I think less there is less racism in the south than any other parts of the country. In my job I personally interact with people from all over the country everyday.
My point is having a song for only one race does nothing to promote unity.
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Re: There's only one National Anthem.
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Feb 14, 2023, 12:05 AM
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It's no chit, the race industry - follow the money
Feb 14, 2023, 9:14 PM
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and follow the votes.
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Centuries of racial oppression undoubtedly contributed to
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circumstances which to this day make it more likely that black people in America, compared to whites, will live in poverty, and make it more difficult for black people to rise above poverty (speaking in very general terms). In my mind, to suggest otherwise would be absurd. Having said that, those things that created such unfavorable, unfair circumstances (racism and oppression), are not the things that are ultimately keeping people in those circumstances generation after generation, in 2023; rather, it is cultural behaviors that developed largely as a result of those circumstances. While the fight against racism and structural, systemic obstacles must remain a priority, the behaviors which perpetuate generational poverty and racial disparities must be addressed. These are behaviors that while more difficult for some, are ultimately free choices, and the right behaviors and choices should be made clear and encouraged, while the wrong choices and behaviors should discouraged, without apology.
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Re: Centuries of racial oppression undoubtedly contributed to
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Well said. Blacks need to fix black culture. Their own culture is their biggest obstacle. Candace Owens ,who is of course black, said “black culture is the only culture that makes a hero out of the worst of our people and shuns the best of our people”. That , folks, is a fact!!!
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100% correct, and you especially know
Feb 14, 2023, 9:15 PM
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this if you have seen it first-hand.
The majority of blacks are convinced where they are is not *their* fault. They have no say so in their plight. Sad and it's a big fat lie.
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Re: Centuries of racial oppression undoubtedly contributed to
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There's almost zero chance anyone of any race will live in poverty if they:
-graduate high school
-don't have kids out of wedlock
-don't become a drug addict
Thats a pretty low bar to have to get over to avoid a lifetime of poverty and every one of those boils down to personal behavior. Nothing related to systemic racism is forcing people to fail to achieve any of those three.
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Re: Centuries of racial oppression undoubtedly contributed to
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You bet me to it. I’ve heard it as :
Finish high school
Get a job , any job , and stick it out
Marry before having kids
But yes, stay off of drugs. It doesn’t matter what color you are if you do those things you can have reasonable success. But the majority of black kids grow up in a home without a father and around all kinds of awful role modeling. Fix your culture black people!! Look in the mirror. Black kids who grow up in a loving, hard working, 2 parent home do just fine.
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Re: And don't commit crimes/stay out of jail.***
Feb 14, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Good point. It’s hard to get ahead at 40 when you’ve been in jail 20 years.
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Re: I did not realize there is a black National Athem
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I didn't know there was a black nation. and hey, what happened to integration?
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Re: I did not realize there is a black National Athem
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Feb 13, 2023, 10:10 PM
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i thought it was by George Clinton
one nation under a groove
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It was sung all season long in the NFL this year.***
Feb 13, 2023, 11:32 PM
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A black anthem is by definition racist
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If the inverse action would not be tolerated (white anthem) then no one should push this.
Don’t point fingers about racism if you’re giving it oxygen to thrive.
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Re: A black anthem is by definition racist
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Amen.
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Whitey***
Feb 14, 2023, 8:35 AM
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Righty
Feb 14, 2023, 8:36 AM
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Lulz at you fools.
The song was sung at every venue opening weekend and several franchises sang it at all their home games.
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It’s funny how the black national anthem sounds more religious than the
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Real national anthem. Oh well, as long as you are worshipping the government, that’s what matters!
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Depending on where you go to church, you may find it in
Feb 14, 2023, 9:03 AM
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your hymnal.
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Re: Depending on where you go to church, you may find it in
Feb 14, 2023, 9:23 PM
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This it? It's one of Drake's biggest hits. Trigger warning.
I wanna know who mothafuckin' representin' in here tonight
Hold on, hold on
I keep lettin' you back in (You back in)
How can I, explain myself?
Care for me, care for me, you said you'd care for me
There for me, there for me, said you'd be there for me
(Lil Weezyana ####)
Cry for me, cry for me, you said you'd die for me
(Murda on the beat)
Give to me, give to me, why won't you live for me?
Care for me, care for me, I know you care for me
(A song for y'all to cut up to, you know?)
There for me, there for me, said you'd be there for me (Yeah)
Cry for me, cry for me, you said you'd die for me
Give to me, give to me, why won't you live for me?
Everybody get your mothafuckin' roll on
I know shorty and she doesn't want no slow song
Had a man last year, life goes on
Haven't let that thing loose, girl, in so long
You've been inside, know you like to lay low
I've been peepin' what you bringin' to the table
Workin' hard, girl, everything paid for
First-last, phone bill, car note, cable
With your phone out, gotta hit them angles
With your phone out, snappin' like you Fabo
And you showin' off, but it's alright
And you showin' off, but it's alright (Alright!)
It's a short life, yeah
Care for me, care for me, you said you'd care for me
There for me, there for me, said you'd be there for me
Cry for me, cry for me, you said you'd die for me
Give to me, give to me, why won't you live for me?
That's a real one in your reflection
Without a follow, without a mention
You really pipin' up on these ######
You gotta be nice for what to these ######?
I understand, you got a hunnid bands
You got a baby Benz, you got some bad friends
High school pics, you was even bad then
You ain't stressin' off no lover in the past tense
You already had them
Work at 8 a.m., finish 'round five
Hoes talk down, you don't see 'em outside
Yeah, they don't really be the same offline
You know dark days, you know hard times
Doin' overtime for the last month
Saturday, call the girls, get 'em gassed up
Gotta hit the club, gotta make that ### jump
Gotta hit the club like you hit them mothafuckin' angles
With your phone out, snappin' like you Fabo
And you showin' off, but it's alright
And you showin' off, but it's alright (Alright!)
It's a short life
Uh-huh! (Oh yeah!)
These hoes! (They mad!)
Your boy! (I had!)
I made! (Watch the breakdown)
Care for me, care for me, you said you'd care for me
There for me, there for me, said you'd be there for me
Cry for me, cry for me, you said you'd die for me
Give to me, give to me, why won't you live for me?
Gotta make that jump, gotta make that, gotta, gotta make that
Gotta make that jump, gotta make that, gotta, gotta make that
Gotta, gotta, gotta g-g-gotta, g-g-gotta, gotta
Gotta, g-g-gotta, gotta, gotta make that jump, jump (Let's go)
Bend it over, lift it up, bend it over, lift it up (Make that jump, jump)
Bend it over, lift it up, bend it over, lift it up (Make that jump, jump)
Bend it over, over, over, over, over, lift it up (Make that jump, jump)
Bend it over, lift it up (Make that jump, jump)
Bend it over, lift it up (Make that jump, jump)
That's a real one in your reflection
Without a follow, without a mention
You really pipin' up on these ######
You gotta be nice for what to these ######?
I understand
Care for me, care for me, you said you'd care for me
There for me, there for me, said you'd be there for me
Give to me, give to me, why won't you live for me?
Cry for me, cry for me, you said you'd cry for me
Gotta hit the club like you hit them, hit them, hit them angles
It's a short life, yeah
Cry for me, cry for me, you said you'd die for me
Give to me, give to me, why won't you live for me?
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