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Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 11:48 AM
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Claims he never said he would quit when they start paying the players. I heard that myself. He absolutely said it. Very disappointing
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 11:51 AM
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I believe he always meant that he would quit if college athletics became detached from academics and it became like a minor league system for the NFL.. some would argue that we’re already there, but Clemson still graduates guys, and I think that’s what is keeping Dabo around - not to mention $11 million a year, which isn’t too shabby
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 11:57 AM
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I mean, that’s exactly how he side-stepped it. But I remember the quote him saying that “when they start paying the players I’m going to quit.” Even the reporters were like, wow, we heard you say it
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:48 PM
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When using quotation marks, you should use the actual quotation.
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this was the quote
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:00 PM
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“We try to teach our guys, use football to create the opportunities, take advantage of the platform and the brand and the marketing you have available to you. But as far as paying players, and professionalizing college athletics, that’s where you lose me. I’ll go do something else because there’s enough entitlement in this world as it is"
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National Champion [7946]
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Re: this was the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 12:04 PM
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thank you for that. So he did leave gray area to get off the hook. We are currently paying the players. Does that make them professionals, or not? Hard to say. I took it as, ‘when we start making direct payments to the players for play, he’s out’. Typically, when you get paid to do something, you’re a professional. I currently have a hobby that I get paid to do, in the eyes of the IRS, I’m a professional
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Dynasty Maker [3582]
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Re: this was the quote
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Nov 26, 2024, 1:00 PM
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So in other words he didn’t straight up lie?
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Re: this was the quote
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Nov 26, 2024, 1:20 PM
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THE COMPLETE AND TOTAL MORONS AND IDIOTS ON THIS SITE IS QUITE MIND BOGGLING TO SAY THE LEAST.
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Re: this was the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 5:13 PM
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I agree with DEROBERTS that those trying to run Monte Lee off are DELUSIONAL IDIOTS!
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Game Changer [1983]
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CDixon11 just straight up lied in his message board post
Nov 26, 2024, 1:35 PM
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Claims that Dabo said he would quit when they start paying the players. I heard that myself. He absolutely said it. Very disappointing
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So you should take down this post...or revise the title since you've seen the
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Nov 26, 2024, 1:00 PM
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facts now, right?
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Re: this was the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 1:18 PM
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Re: this was the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 12:04 PM [ in reply to this was the quote ]
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thank you for that. So he did leave gray area to get off the hook. We are currently paying the players. Does that make them professionals, or not? Hard to say. I took it as, ‘when we start making direct payments to the players for play, he’s out’. Typically, when you get paid to do something, you’re a professional. I currently have a hobby that I get paid to do, in the eyes of the IRS, I’m a professional
HEY GREAT CU SAYS DABO LIED. HIS HEAD MUST ROLL. HOW CAN DABO COACH UNDER SUCH A CLOUD. SMFH AT YOU GOOBERS.
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Orange Elite [5581]
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Re: this was the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 5:16 PM
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No other man has ever had GOOBERS roll off his tongue as you
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Re: this was the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 1:46 PM
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He didn't leave any "gray area" to "get off the hook." He said what he thought and believed at the time. Times change and opinions change. No one is perfect...
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Dynasty Maker [3151]
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There's no really any reason to think it's a contrived "out"
Nov 26, 2024, 4:24 PM
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sometimes there's a genuine nuanced difference between things that isn't merely contrived as an excuse or pre-text for later.
As long as there's a relevant difference between what he was talking about (professionalization) and NIL (and there is) then there's no reason to assume it was a set-up to have an out. Logically, it could be an out, but just as logically, it could also simply be that he was talking about "X" (professionalization) and not "Y" NIL. And the context of what he has said and has always said about the college experience and even NIL points to the former, not the latter.
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Re: this was the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 5:41 PM
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He never was “on the hook “
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Re: this was the quote
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:07 PM
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Yep, thats the quote I heard several years ago. Unfortunately its almost like he knew what was coming. He is still graduating players which in his mind keeps his players as student athletes but a majority of the portal players are just chasing the $$$ and not education.
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I'm NOT calling Dabo a liar... but that quote does paint the picture of where we
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Nov 26, 2024, 1:13 PM
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are. We are starting paying players, and he supports it. And we are professionalizing it, in any reasonable sense of the term, but he's still here.
I am glad he is still here. But if we are being honest, it does seem he has changed his mind for now.
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CU Medallion [19306]
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Re: I'm NOT calling Dabo a liar... but that quote does paint the picture of where we
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Nov 26, 2024, 1:48 PM
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Professionalization is hiring a group of athletes to represent your university without the need for academic expectations. Maybe we will get there in the future but we aren't there yet.
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We are not fully there, but we are definitely tangible steps closer.
Nov 26, 2024, 4:04 PM
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Paying players is already there. And transfer rules have finished the conversion from the "student athlete" into "athlete who has to take classes."
Professionalization is taking place, but not finished.
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Re: I'm NOT calling Dabo a liar... but that quote does paint the picture of where we
Nov 26, 2024, 5:12 PM
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11 million a year will convince you to backtrack on what you said. That quote to me absolutely meant that he would leave and “ go find something else to do”. He’s backed off of that now that what he said has become reality.
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He should be taken out on Lake Hartwell and keelhauled!
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:03 PM
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This is outrageous!
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Re: He should be taken out on Lake Hartwell and keelhauled!
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Yeah, I guess rich people lying to say face doesn’t matter anymore
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Have another cup of coffee and see if you can't keep the outrage up for the
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rest of the day.
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Re: He should be taken out on Lake Hartwell and keelhauled!
Nov 26, 2024, 1:52 PM
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Sometimes hyperbole is a real thing... Hyperbole definition- "a figure of speech that uses exaggeration to create emphasis, evoke strong feelings, or make a strong statement. It's often not meant to be taken literally."
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:04 PM
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this is pathetic.
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National Champion [7946]
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:05 PM
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Agreed, that’s why I posted it. What people say I guess doesn’t matter anymore, it’s just how you spin it
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 12:47 PM
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You fail to recognoze the difference. Give it up.
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Clemson will keep Dabo , he truly is a NATIONAL CHAMPION, you are free to go if you don’t like it.
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National Champion [7946]
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Oh Good grief, here comes the Dabo worshipers
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:11 PM
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And you would be among the first to complain if he did leave and the new portal coach loses a conference game.
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What are you going to do about this?***
Nov 26, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 12:11 PM
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Who cares?
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:11 PM
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Are they employees?
Is it 100% professional football with them no longer having to attend class?
Are there still academic requirements?
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 12:13 PM
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Bingo!
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Re: people only remember certain parts of 2 hr interviews.
Nov 26, 2024, 6:16 PM
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#### really gets annoying especially when fake fans jump on the narrative bandwagon. He’s made his stance clear over and over again yet these people continue to go back to one spot of the conversation.
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players are being PAID.......there's no gray area at all.........
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:19 PM
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at this point...it doesn't matter either way, but he woulda been better off just flip flopping on his position rather than denying he said anything.
all that matters now is that Dabo embraces and executes the whole entirety of paying players from HS and portal to get Clemson Football back to ELITE again.
"aint nobody gonna have more money than Clemson" leaves no excuse to not return to the Elite of CFB in short order
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 12:13 PM
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I think he was talking out of his behind back then because he never throught he'd see pay for play and NIL come to fruition. But I think Dabo still cares about developing players, and I also think every head coach has some level of narcissistic tendencies, so he's not going anywhere.
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read the quote***
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:17 PM
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Re: read the quote***
Nov 26, 2024, 1:38 PM
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Trust me, I know his quote from 5 years ago. I don't need to read anything. I have read it, re-read it and defended what he said many times.
What I said is that "he never EXPECTED pay for play to happen" and thus was very against paying players like employees. His quote in 2019 was not about NIL. None of us expected this.
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Dabo was pro-NIL and a pioneer in CFB by immediately creating an
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:44 PM
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in-house state-of-the-art branding and NIL studio for our kids to take advantage of that field. It's now available for all of CU athletics.
It's really astounding some of the sad takes even our own fans can't help but put out there. Misery loves company.
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means nothing when it doesn't produce results.....
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branding and NIL studio is all well and good, but to get out bid by the likes of Rutgers, UNC, GT, Duke, etc.......AND getting "out foxed" in the portal for impact players is a matter of execution & philosophy.
HOPEFULLY..............FINALLY.........he changes...........better late than never, but it shouldn't have taken this long.
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We will continue to get outbid for those kids seeking more of that up front
Nov 26, 2024, 1:25 PM
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over program experience and earning more through contribution. And by 'outfoxed' your coot feathers are showing again if you ever believe that Dabo is going to tamper with players on others' rosters.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Dabo was pro-NIL and a pioneer in CFB by immediately creating an
Nov 26, 2024, 1:34 PM
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I know exactly what his original quote was all those years ago. Just because he has begrudgingly accepted NIL doesn't mean he didn't THINK it would happen when he said his original quote. None of these coaches were pushing for NIL, they've accepted it because they have to or they'll get left behind.
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:14 PM
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Always people looking for the bad on all things Dabo. SMH.
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 12:20 PM
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I doubt he quits with a 60M buy-out but I wouldn't be surprised if he does move on in a few years.
I could actually see him coaching high school. He won't need any money, and he's as pure an "amateur at heart" as anyone. If molding young men is no longer in the cards in college, and that's what matters to him, why wouldn't he do it at a place where it actually makes a difference?
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:28 PM
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I think we’ve all said something in our past that out ran our kick coverage. Cut the man some slack.
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Rival Killer [2644]
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 12:32 PM
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Oh well.
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I have said things I absolutely regret and not told the entire
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:34 PM
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truth. And, I guess you can call it a lie if I withheld some truths. That would probably be a fair assessment.
However, cut the man some slack. Be fair. He is human. Don't be a pharisaic press member.
In the words of the only sinless Son of Man to ever walk this earth, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone ..."
And, just to put it into context, Jesus was speaking to a bunch of know-it-alls who thought they were the law and above it. They were prepared to stone a woman caught in adultery. Jesus showed mercy to the woman and called out the Pharisees and scribes for their hypocrisy.
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Re: I have said things I absolutely regret and not told the entire
Nov 26, 2024, 12:35 PM
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OP with the wealth envy again...aspire to be rich
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Congratulations… I can tell you’re proud of yourself.
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 12:43 PM
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So, what would you like.......
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There are a lot of folks in the world who just arent smart enough to understand
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Nov 26, 2024, 12:43 PM
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nuanced layered concepts; clearly you’re one of them. The professionalization of college sports is not the same thing as just simply paying players. Dabo has explained this 100s of times; if you don’t understand it by now you either aren’t smart enough to comprehend or are intentionally misquoting him to serve your own agenda.
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there is no gray area in his quote........
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"but as far as PAYING PLAYERS AND professionalizing college athletics that's where you lose me"
players are being paid......period, but again I don't care if he flip flops 1000 times on the matter. As long as he's CHANGED NOW and gets us back to Elite by using NIL / Portal / HS-NIL to acquiring the elite talent that we need to BE ELITE.................because he HAS NOT done that yet.
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Clemson Conqueror [11690]
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Interesting how you choose not to bold the most important part of the quote
Nov 26, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Professionalizing college sports. I’m not gonna try to explain it to you again because like I said Dabo has done that 100 times. Go back and listen to today’s interview he spends about 3 minutes re-explaining the topic.
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LOL, is that you, Phil? .....
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the rules have changed, yet again. He is on board with these rules bc the system is still academic based. Not that difficult to understand.
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No he didn't. He said "professionalize"***
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Oh my goodness. Most on here have followed Dabo since the mid 2000’s. One thing that is never brought up is his generosity and character. Never known him to tell a lie to the fans but we are all capable of remembering what we want to or forgetting what we may or may not have said. Happens to myself a pretty good bit. I am sure if you have followed his time at Clemson you are well aware that Dabo and lying don’t really fit, regardless of your opinions about him.
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Eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate.
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Nov 26, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Case in point.
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 1:20 PM
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Who cares? Move on. We need to focus on getting better any way we legally can.
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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People have said they would leave the country if Trump got elected, and they don't. Big deal. People say a lot of things in the heat of the moment, or for emphasis to make a bigger point. I think the actual quote clarified the position and was not as the OP portrayed. Not sure why people feel the need to rake him over the coals about this.
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I heard Dabo say he would quit if players started getting paid and there was no gray area. Dabo backed himself into a corner and bold faced lied to get out of it. Very disappointing he just wouldn’t admit to the truth!
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Game Changer [2040]
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
Nov 26, 2024, 5:10 PM
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Aw st fu loser
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Re: Dabo just straight up lied in his press conference
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Nov 26, 2024, 5:21 PM
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The truth is college football is fuking mess. He prob didn’t think that college football as we know it is over. I like his position and would back him any time. Certainly it better than what’s going on. Is it all bout winning or honoring a coach who’s trying to do right. To all the winning crowd put where the sun don’t shine. Clemson men have had in the past. HONOR
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I think you have a terrible take, but
Nov 26, 2024, 5:29 PM
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You're allowed to be butthurt over a our coach not quitting when he said he would. I personally want him to stick around. Maybe he'll ask forgiveness before it gets too out of hand in the national media.
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Re: I think you have a terrible take, but
Nov 26, 2024, 5:43 PM
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He could at least admit he said it(which is a fact that he did). Why not just admit the truth, say you goofed and move on? Don’t bold face lie about…that just makes it worse!
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National Champion [7360]
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Nobody asked you Beamer boi.
Nov 26, 2024, 5:51 PM
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Who is your main, Scok? Don't be shy. I've a system that weeds coots out. You are checking the easiest boxes. Noob and Low Pulser? No question.
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Heisman Winner [78365]
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Let's all get mad and cry about it.
Nov 26, 2024, 5:45 PM
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What a baby.
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Re: Let's all get mad and cry about it.
Nov 26, 2024, 6:15 PM
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"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is’ is”
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