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Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason
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Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

37

Oct 29, 2023, 5:01 PM

Consensus is we are going 5-7 at best. Going to move on from Grisham, Austin on the offensive side. Lemanski Hall, Goodwin and maybe Conn on the defensive side. Dabo is gonna blow it all up. Dabo will be who he is and ride out the season and say the right things, but expect big changes.

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Think we can steal one of UNC or ND

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:03 PM

And beat GiT and SCAR

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I mean I hope so

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:06 PM

But most see the writing on the wall, GT and USuck are the only ones everyone feels are realistic wins.

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Re: I mean I hope so

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:02 PM

Georgia Tech is looking less and less beatable

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Re: I mean I hope so

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:26 PM [ in reply to I mean I hope so ]

We M U S T beat So Carolina.

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Re: I mean I hope so

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:41 PM

That’s all that matters at this point

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Re: I mean I hope so

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:14 PM [ in reply to I mean I hope so ]

UNC is definitely beatable. Their D is looking like last years to me.

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Re: Think we can steal one of UNC or ND

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:30 PM [ in reply to Think we can steal one of UNC or ND ]

Win 3 of the next 4? I'd be shocked. I think 2-2 is the best this team will do. 1-3 likely.

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I asked about Cade as well

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:04 PM

And the program feels good about him and think he will be fine next year, the issues are all coaching and systematic issues from that side of things.

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Re: I asked about Cade as well

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:55 PM

I don’t see how anybody hasn’t watched Cade and seen the talent he has. He’s trying to do way to much because he basically has to. If Cade is given an actual OL and playmakers he will take this team far.

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Re: I asked about Cade as well

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:11 PM

Some how this got a TD lol

🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: I asked about Cade as well

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:18 PM

Probably because you aren’t crying like a spoiled child who’s never been told no 😂😂

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Dude, don't worry about the TD idiots.

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Oct 30, 2023, 10:11 AM [ in reply to Re: I asked about Cade as well ]

I appreciate all the information you have been giving us. Obviously you know some players or coaches really well.

I hope you're right. Austin, Grisham, and Hall have been a disaster. Goodwin, you know is gone after Dabo called him out after the FSU three man rush thingy- was it FSU?

Spiller, eh, he can't do much damage where he is and Dabo owes his career to that man. Fans owe him everything too. We are not the program we are today had he not signed.

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Re: Dude, don't worry about the TD idiots.

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Oct 30, 2023, 11:43 AM

Why are yall so ###### determined to have Goodwin fired? We have the #7 defense in the country. Yeah he made a bone headed move at the end of the first half against FSU, but that's it! We would be 2-6 if it wasn't for him and our defense!

Yeah he doesn't run around the sidelines jumping up and down like he's on an eight ball of cocaine, that's what yall want from what I'm gathering.


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Re: Dude, don't worry about the TD idiots.


Oct 30, 2023, 12:36 PM

He can’t recruit!

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Re: I asked about Cade as well

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM [ in reply to Re: I asked about Cade as well ]

He has talent and pretty good arm strength, so did Tajh but couldn't see the entire field, don't think Cade has the moxie or feel for the game Tajh had and not many CU QBs could throw the deep ball like Tajh, not Watson or Trevor, but Tajh is Cades maximum upside. He plays and interviews like a ninth grader at the Class A HS level, just super-excited all the time. Don't see him bringing us back to the glory days, hope Vizzina can.

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Re: I asked about Cade as well

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:19 PM

Tajh is not the kids max potential you are insane, I want you to go play QB behind that line and tell me what you see. If Tajh was as accurate as Cade we could’ve competed for a title with that offense.

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Re: I asked about Cade as well


Oct 29, 2023, 10:03 PM [ in reply to Re: I asked about Cade as well ]

Dang Skippy he is good. He’s trying to do it all so much that he can’t even switch it off when he needs to, like pulling it from Shipley when it wasnt even an option.

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Re: I asked about Cade as well

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:32 PM [ in reply to I asked about Cade as well ]

I agree I think he will be fine. It’s his first year as a starter in a new scheme with a poor line/wideout group. Look at how Jordan Travis developed at FSU

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Tske Away SH1P and give Cade 1-2 6'4" WRs

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Oct 29, 2023, 10:32 PM [ in reply to I asked about Cade as well ]

game over


CK2 is a great one
let's see if Clemson supports QB1

jk they will
Go Tigers!

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Re: I asked about Cade as well


Oct 30, 2023, 11:44 AM [ in reply to I asked about Cade as well ]

I agree with that. I think Cade will be fine. It just coaching and what he is working with..

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I hope youre right.

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:07 PM

Let’s hope our key players and recruits stay committed to the program.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:08 PM

I think Richardson should be on that list too… “passing game coordinator” and our passing game is terrible… I know a lot of that is on development of positions but watch any game and teams figure out how to get guys open and move the ball… everything is so hard for us on offense it’s hard to watch. Everything is a struggle and it’s almost a shock when we complete a 15 yard pass .

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Richardson is a huge liability

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:12 PM

Sooner he’s out the better

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:15 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

I’m pretty sure in Richardson’s role he could not be an issue good or bad. He is an OC in training imo.
His high school teams were true air raid offenses. Lot of big plays and points.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM

At Northwestern , he had QB and receivers that were about a foot taller than the defense

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

Key word there is high school. Richardson should go back to coaching high school.

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who knows but hes the equivalent of an analyst

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:51 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

Keep him or let him go, the issues are position coaching and development.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:21 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

Richardson is a cocky nobody who has done nothing for this program. He should be gone.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:08 PM

Your info is typically spot on. Is this anonymous inside intel?

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people I trust that know the temperature inside the buolding

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM

From Dabo on down.

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Re: people I trust that know the temperature inside the buolding

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:50 PM

So Dabo is going to blow up Dabo? Sure.

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Re: people I trust that know the temperature inside the buolding

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:52 PM

His track record has proven he will you’re just to ####### ignorant to take a second to look at the past

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the awakening is happening***


Oct 29, 2023, 10:34 PM [ in reply to people I trust that know the temperature inside the buolding ]



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Ah the first to ask the unnecessary question****

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]



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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM

Well dang I wonder if all them know about it if they have not already quit.

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MEG


Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM

Do you think Garrett Riley is going to stay next year or leave for another job?

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:12 PM

I would be shocked to see him leave if Dabo does make these changes. With the right hires, we seriously could have the greatest one season turnarounds. We have the talent to compete for titles, but coaching blunders have squandered that.

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If Dabo does make these changes

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:13 PM

Do you think he would let Riley choose his own staff on the offensive side?

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Re: If Dabo does make these changes

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:16 PM

I’d imagine he gets a substantial input. I think some of the Dabo play calling shenaningans we see is just him knowing what the players are able to do based off their coaches—not to say Riley has no offensive input because I think that sentiment is far from true.

I would guess Dabo and Riley will have guys in mind and collaborate on who fits best.

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I asked this directly and got a vague answer that seemed to follow this logic***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:52 PM



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I was told that we dont think he leaves

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

He makes too much and his stock is at rock bottom, no one will pay him what we are currently and Dabo is going to make the changes to set him up to succeed. No word, I asked, if he will get any input on the hires but he likely will have a seat at the table.

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I appreciate the response sir!

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:22 PM

As well as all your insider information.

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LOL

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Oct 30, 2023, 11:31 AM

He’s making stuff up so he can feel important on a message board.

I mean…it’s semi-interesting to read as someone’s speculation.
But I don’t take any of it as actual information.

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Re: I was told that we dont think he leaves

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:33 PM [ in reply to I was told that we dont think he leaves ]

What are the chances of Jeff Scott coming back as WR coach and recruiting coordinator?

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:09 PM

Thanks for the update!

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What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:12 PM



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Re: What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:13 PM

No one is safe this year

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Re: What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:14 PM [ in reply to What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?*** ]

Only one was before today but they decided to take themselves out.

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Re: What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:16 PM

Who?

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MEG


Re: What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:36 PM [ in reply to What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?*** ]

I thought you were going to ask if any TNet members were going to have a seat at the table 😂😂😂

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66% of the orthodox sunshine pumpers @ 8am Monday will be placed on Permaban****


Oct 29, 2023, 6:24 PM [ in reply to What about TNet members? Are any of us getting the ax?*** ]



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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:18 PM

Do you foresee any substantial moves regarding the portal with either losing current players or adding players?

To be clear, I don’t think the portal is our problem, but just curious is there will be any changes made.

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Honestly didnt even ask

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:23 PM

Just asked what “what are we going to do to fix this?”


What I posted was the overwhelming sentiments of what to expect.

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Re: Honestly didnt even ask

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:27 PM

Cool, that’s what I figured. Dabo isn’t opposed to the portal as some seem to parade. He just sees the value in keeping his dudes and developing players. Teams that are able to develop players don’t take a lot of transfers—see UGA & Bama. We have lost that ability; thus the decline.

Wouldn’t anticipate much shake up there except for maybe an experienced OL or two.

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Dabo isnt opposed to the portal, he just doesnt use it

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:33 PM

and has gone out of his way to criticize it.

Other than that, he’s all for it.

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Re: Dabo isnt opposed to the portal, he just doesnt use it

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:38 PM

You mean just like you support the football program? Troll.

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Re: Dabo isnt opposed to the portal, he just doesnt use it

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:23 PM

🤣🤣

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Seriously?****

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:27 PM [ in reply to Re: Honestly didnt even ask ]



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Well, portal just came up in a convo

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:37 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

“ We are going to have to use the portal to have a full complement at OL, Rb will be interesting too”

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Re: Well, portal just came up in a convo

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:45 PM

Major concerns we lose both Ship and Mafah… I wouldn’t mind losing ship. That’s why “Rb should be interesting “

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Re: Well, portal just came up in a convo

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:54 PM

To transferring or taking a shot at the league? Regardless, losing Mafah would be huge. Ship seems like a great dude, but his antics this season along with his inability to hold the ball at crucial moments is frustrating.

Mafah is a beast. Losing him would be tough.

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transfer***

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:14 PM



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Re: transfer***


Oct 30, 2023, 11:38 AM

Mafah almost transferred last year. NIL deal kept him here.

If Shipley misses a game or two, this is Mafah's chance to take over. I hope we get to see it.

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Mafah should have transferred after freshmen year

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:06 PM [ in reply to Re: Well, portal just came up in a convo ]

we all know why shipley starts

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"We"?***

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:41 PM



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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:27 PM

Not sure why we would move on from Goodwin. Our defense has been pretty solid

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:29 PM

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could imagine is that he just lacks the intensity Dabo might want. The defense has played well, but they haven’t played with intensity, and the customary one or two busted plays a game seems to be a byproduct of that.

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

No one implied we Goodwin is leaving. We have a top ten defense. He is going nowhere

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM

Read the original post chief.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:52 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

It was a name mentioned to me due to lack of development…. He’s great at schemes.

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LOL.***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:31 PM



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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:32 PM

I’ve been saying this for a while. Change is coming. Hopefully a silver lining to the season is it speeds up the process.

…. Multiple issues across the board. Roster management and coaching. Gotta change the OL philosophy on room size. We don’t need to hit the portal a ton… Just sparingly. But make a legitimate effort.

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100% on "legitimate effort"****

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:32 PM

If you get the opportunity to ask, I’d be curious to know how the off-season read of this year was so far off from reality. Did the coaches genuinely think this was a good team that would play for a national championship? Seems like a massive misread on the program to have that expectation and then have a consensus on the inside being a 5-7 season.

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:34 PM

I know spiller is in year two, but that’s another that needs to go. Pass blocking out of the RB’s is still pourous. Shipley stares at his feet instead of the holes a lot, and the ball security has been god awful.

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:37 PM

Is that the latest from Tiger Illustrated HLRT?

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Idk

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:47 PM

I’m too cheap to pay for memberships anywhere… hence my non member status here

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Givem a couple of months and they'll have this uploaded by then...maybe****

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:38 PM

Except for the 5-7 part, this update legit hits like Rendrick Taylor. I’d be highly encouraged if the majority of these things happen. Go Tigers!

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:47 PM

I hope they talk Batson into retiring. I don't know if your in is with a S&C team member but this team is injury prone, weak, and slow that's an indicator the off-season is not being used properly. The OL has been weak for over 2 decades and the strongest dudes on the team are usually freshmen, how the hell can anyone tell me Peter woods being the strongest dude on a D1 team is a positive?

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:53 PM

We signed him!

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Yeah really a true freshman ****


Oct 29, 2023, 6:38 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]



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Ill be shocked if all of them are dismissed.***

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:51 PM



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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:53 PM

The people who think Dabo won’t burn it all down are idiots who thrive on the negativity going around. It won’t even be the first time he’s done it. The only way players are sticking around and the recruits are staying committed will be due to Dabo affirming that he knows what to do next.

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Dabo hasnt ever made major changes.

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:21 PM

He’s the guy who prides himself on staff continuity, “family,” etc.

If he makes more than a couple of staff changes, it will be very unlike him.

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Oct 30, 2023, 11:51 AM

Well we know for sure Brad wont blow it all up, he will lose his golden ticket if he does. That man has conned clemson out of so much money it's unbelievable.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:55 PM

HLRT did they say how the morale is as far as having a mass exodus of players at the end of season?

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:00 PM

Not a mass exodus but we expect to lose a chunk, Covill was mentioned like you and I have hit on…

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:16 PM

Figured he was gone, absolutely hate it to. He’s one of the few on the team that’s a straight dog and will light it up wherever he goes.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:19 PM

He’s the safety version of Bently. I wish we could find a way to use him and I think that’s why Wes might be gone. Too much talent all over the place not being utilized. That along with player development, Wes is a genius in scheming up a defense but he isn’t developing the fundamentals. That’s on him and the position coaches and why we will see change.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:21 PM

Yep i wish Wes would move to an analyst role but I know that’s never going to happen. I feel like his mind is much needed on the staff but we need fire/discipline back. I just really hate to lose Covil his tape reminds me of Weapon X the way he’s willing to just lay people out.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:22 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

I just wonder what happens to the guys he recruited, you think they’ll stay or bounce?

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:27 PM

I don’t think it’s like with Kanak and Venables. I think We keep the ones on the program for the most part.

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who cares about wes good wins dbs


Oct 29, 2023, 9:08 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

the recruit class of 2023 and 2024 DBs are so much more elite it's. it even funny

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Are you definitely sure, relatively sure or Realignment sure?

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Oct 29, 2023, 5:58 PM

It's important...


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Fair question

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:02 PM

Some of the same people so maybe I’m just full of ####.

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Full of shyatt keeps the Clemson theme and avoids B-Meist's language filter...***

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:04 PM



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Appreciate you!!!***

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:28 PM [ in reply to Fair question ]



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my man

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

👊🏻

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Re: Are you definitely sure, relatively sure or Realignment sure?

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:38 PM [ in reply to Are you definitely sure, relatively sure or Realignment sure? ]

REALIGNMENT SURE........that's pretty good stuff right there DSP. I gotta remember that one, if I can at my advanced age.

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Re: Are you definitely sure, relatively sure or Realignment sure?


Oct 30, 2023, 11:50 AM [ in reply to Are you definitely sure, relatively sure or Realignment sure? ]

Emojis can land you in jail these days

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:34 PM

Goodwins not going anywhere. You can bet your a## on that. Finished 25 overall defense last year and sitting at #6 right now. Problems not defensive issues its all on the offensive side of the ball. O-line coach gone and Grisham gone.

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The OP made that point later in the thread on Goodwin.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:47 PM

Our defense is just talented and make it work. We'd lose players this year even if Goodwin wasn't let go.

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Our D is the least talented at DE that it has been I forever


Oct 29, 2023, 9:17 PM

Our starting DTs are good, the youth look great. Our starting safety’s are good but not as talented as we have had at times. Again, youth looks good here. Wes has done more having this unit at 6 vs last year and quite a few BV teams that were immensely more talented with upperclassmen. Our main problem is misevaluation of upperclassmen particularly on O. Most of these guys wouldn’t have been responsible for that. I think we see changes on O but not much if any on D particularly if the starts hold which will be challenged with some of the upcoming games. The offense 75% of the problem. Special Teams is the other 25%.

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Re: Our D is the least talented at DE that it has been I forever


Oct 29, 2023, 9:28 PM

When has Dabu ever had really good spec teams??

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:36 PM

At this point I don’t care what happens but…. calling Dabo names has to stop.

He won 2 NC’s the right way and he deserves the opportunity to change his mind and I believe he will.

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Trolling in an effort to incite name calling/derogatory insults ****

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:40 PM

Enjoy your input from your sources and that seems realistic.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason


Oct 29, 2023, 6:43 PM

Man I hope you’re right.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:44 PM

Who in their right mind on this thread thinks we’re going to beat South Carolina in Columbia. What in the world have you seen that tells you were going to do that. Their offense is better than just about every team. We’ve played this year and we can’t win a game against those teams.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:47 PM

Clemson is 6th in total defense. Not sure why Wes Goodwin would be getting fired.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:50 PM

HLRT said in another comment on this thread that he is underutilizing talent and isn’t developing players. He also lacks intensity. Freak freshman are gonna play, but when they’re better than the dudes you’ve had two years to develop, and who have seemingly lost draft stock, that’s an issue.

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:55 PM

Bingo

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:50 PM

Not opposed to Goodwin staying as a DC for developing gameplan/scheme, but perhaps bring in an actual LB coach, put Eason in charge of entire DL (to keep # of on-field assistants in line). Heard anything on those lines?

Think Richardson gets a pass as the TEs have been best pass-catchers past couple seasons despite being mostly underutilized. Would Spiller be on the chopping block given the fumble issues and if we do lose Ship and/or Mafah (since seems like Ship’s attitude has been an issue this year & Mafah seems to be underutilized given the on-field results)?

Any word about S&C change? Given the injury bug has been an issue, do you see moving on from Batson being in the cards?

Lastly, potential departures...any particular names you're hearing hitting portal outside the aforementioned Shipley/Covil talk? Any indications on underclassmen expected to declare for draft?

TIA, HitsLikeRendrickTaylor

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:53 PM

My ideal situation is a new co d coordinater… Wes has value and knows schemes but Conn isn’t the balance he needs for developing players

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So sounds like Eason is truly only one safe defensively and

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:57 PM

regardless if Wes is/isn't retained, Conn will be shown the door as well?

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Re: So sounds like Eason is truly only one safe defensively and

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:03 PM

Why would Dabo run off Mike Reed? He’s the only coach developing guys that improve and improve their draft stock.

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slipped my mind there when typing that


Oct 29, 2023, 7:04 PM

my bad

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Re: So sounds like Eason is truly only one safe defensively and

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:49 PM [ in reply to Re: So sounds like Eason is truly only one safe defensively and ]

I didn’t mention reed

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Forgot to mention him as being safe


Oct 29, 2023, 11:39 PM

Again, brain chose not to work too good @ that moment

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What does Conn actually do?

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

I’m not being mean, I just honestly don’t know.

He has the co-DC title, but what does that mean? He is never interviewed. He isn’t mentioned as working with a specific position group anymore, although I know he has worked with safeties in the past. I don’t ever hear his name mentioned with recruiting.

Seriously, what does he do? He is making $800,000 a year, so I hope he’s making big contributions to the team.

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Re: What does Conn actually do?

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:25 PM


I’m not being mean, I just honestly don’t know.

He has the co-DC title, but what does that mean? He is never interviewed. He isn’t mentioned as working with a specific position group anymore, although I know he has worked with safeties in the past. I don’t ever hear his name mentioned with recruiting.

Seriously, what does he do? He is making $800,000 a year, so I hope he’s making big contributions to the team.


When I was at the Oculus for the FSU game during Tiger Walk, Conn was there with about 5 or 6 HS recruits. Along with Austin and Spiller and their recruits. So he’s definitely involved on the recruiting, and I believe he’s still coaching the safeties. If not that doesn’t make much sense to have Goodwin be DC and LB coach while Conn does no field coaching. It should be the other way.

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Thanks, this is helpful.***

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:55 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

I did ask about Batson and got nothing back.

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:16 PM

Well that's the most disappointing thing imo. Tired of seeing this Clemson team getting pushed around and out athlete'd

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:57 PM [ in reply to Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason ]

Thought is we could lose both ship and Mafah… new Oline coach and portal pick ups
Could change that.

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Would really hate that. Ship & Mafah are both good guys

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:59 PM

But the OL issues I think have been a big killer in them not performing to expectation.

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Bingo***

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Oct 29, 2023, 10:43 PM



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Nothing will change.....

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Oct 29, 2023, 6:52 PM

....unless they get the organization right. Simply flipping people out and in isn't going to fix a structure that is set up to fail. Before he makes any changes, he needs to get an organization consultant to review the entire football operations center and set it up to create a high-performance organization.

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Hope you're correct on all those staff changes.


Oct 29, 2023, 6:56 PM

But way off on final record 😬 Then with a (hopefully) competent o line we can see what Riley is capable of? Because so far, woefully unimpressed.

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:21 PM

You think the whole “our coaching staff is the best it’s ever been” a couple weeks ago was just a face?

I mean I know he’s not going to come out and say
“Yeah I’ve made some bad inexperienced hires”
But why would he even make those comments knowing he wants to get rid of them?

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All those coaches? Lol. Such a load of crap.***

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:23 PM



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Do you think he needs to just replace one coach at a time eqch year

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:54 PM

He has to blow it up and he knows it… that’s what my guys are telling me will happen…. You could be right, I’m just relaying what I was told from people
Close to everything.

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

Skeptical on any defensive coaches being let go this year but no assistants on the offensive side of things should feel safe right now outside a select few. Wouldn't be upset if things did blow up to this magnitude though because things have become disgustingly bad.

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Oct 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

Are we still making an announcement this October about leaving the ACC?

I kid.

What’s the reasoning about Goodwin being cut loose?

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Oct 29, 2023, 8:05 PM

Sorry. I just read other responses regarding my Goodwin Question.

I do disagree with with those thoughts though.

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Oct 29, 2023, 8:44 PM

I don’t disagree, but I see the points being told to me. I imagine what would this team look like vs GT with Paul and the triple option. I think we would be in position to defend it but still get gashed a ton vs how Venables had our guys prepared to dominate it.

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Oct 29, 2023, 8:19 PM

What about Spiller? Is he going to be retained?

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James Davis had more rushing yards than CJ Spiller***

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Profound insight as usual ****

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:46 PM [ in reply to James Davis had more rushing yards than CJ Spiller*** ]

Let’s hire him. /sarcasm

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Coach Swinney's maybe thinking...


Oct 29, 2023, 9:24 PM

https://youtu.be/OS2QZvisrkM?t=3

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:35 PM

Nothing wrong with Wes Goodwin. The D has done their job.

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Oct 29, 2023, 10:25 PM

Agreed. I would be surprised if they let Goodwin go. Defense has been placed in some bad situations due to the offensive turnovers or three and outs but still are 9th in total defense and 12th in yards play.

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Oct 29, 2023, 9:56 PM

This is the most ridiculous thing you could claim to be in the know about. There is a 0% chance that all happens. Get real. Also, 5-7 is such a reach. 7-5 at worst and we all know that. Good lord.

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Oct 30, 2023, 10:21 AM

Says..... Eric Ford.

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason


Oct 30, 2023, 1:40 PM

Come one man, do you really think CDS is going to clean house like this dude is claiming? That is asinine. The defense is solid! Why would he fire any of those coaches? Grisham, Austin & Richardson being potentially canned makes total sense but everything else he claims is BS

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Oct 29, 2023, 10:09 PM

What kind of people

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Interesting! I would be SHOCKED


Oct 30, 2023, 1:38 AM

If Dabo chose to make many changes on the defensive side of the ball.
In the scenario you laid out, it truly would be “blowing it up”.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens after the season. I still don’t think many changes on the defensive side will occur.

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Thanks for giving something positive


Oct 30, 2023, 1:48 AM

Let’s get what we can with what we have until changes are made

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Smae great sources that said we were


Oct 30, 2023, 7:19 AM

Leaving ACC and the “announcement” was coning soon?

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Re: Smae great sources that said we were

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Oct 30, 2023, 10:22 AM

He is actually right more than he is wrong. He has been right about a lot of things in the past. I tend to give him a pass on the realignment thing.

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One of them, yes

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Oct 30, 2023, 11:25 AM [ in reply to Smae great sources that said we were ]

I just pass along what I hear.... could it all be completely off the mark? 100%, but it's people I trust and what they gauge will happen. No one besides Dabo knows 100% what will be done but people close to things think that's the mostly likely outcome to come down the pipeline in the offseason.

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Richardson

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Oct 30, 2023, 11:15 AM

Thanks for the information.

I'm from the Rock Hill area and I can tell you that Richardson knows how to motivate the dogs that we need to compete. He is super valuable!

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His motivation tactics aren't working too well at Clemson.***

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Re: Talking to a few people about what changes will be made this offseason


Oct 30, 2023, 12:15 PM

Who were the people basically? How would they know. Just wondering. Thanks

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Were these few people patrons at a bar somewhere? Goodwin?***


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you might be right.. we couldn't even beat NcState.


Oct 30, 2023, 1:59 PM

and they didn't have any good players.

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Any word on Thad Turnipseed coming back?***


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