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Asst Coach [877]
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Dabo is the problem
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Myself and a few others have been saying this over and over and getting blasted and called coot and all the other lame names the pumpers have.
People can blame Riley/Cade/Wes and whoever else but they are the issue… Dabo is the issue. I’ve read so many threads with people saying they’d rather lose with Dabo than use the portal with somebody else.
How do you feel now? It’s not fun getting smoked like this. Just think… 5/6 years ago this type of performance would have been unimaginable but with each passing year and refusal to use NIL to acquire talent and not use the portal it’s getting consistently worse.
I’ve said it on here and I’ll say it again… we will never sniff another national championship with Dabo at the helm. He flat out refuses to play this game the way it’s played today.
Also… Georgia is absolutely not the #1 team in America. They will lose 2 or even 3 games this year. Mark this post and watch.
Appalachian St next week will be a full 4 quarter fight and it won’t shock me at all if we lose and honestly that may be the best thing that could happen.
It’s time for Dabo to go. His pride is destroying this program day by day. You have to use the portal to compete with the big boys you just have to. You have to use NIL to acquire the 5 star QB to compete with the big boys.
If you are happy with 8/9 wins a year then yes you’ll continue to be happy but anytime we get matched up with an opponent who’s better than us we will lose and lose badly just like today.
A lot of you buy that BS from Dabo that theirs nobody in the portal better than what we have yet Georgia took a transfer WR from VANDY and used him to scorch us. So a guy from Vandy is good enough to play for Georgia who has had the #1 recruiting class for like 5 straight years but theirs not a single guy in the portal that’s better than what we have?
Dabo is the problem. He’s been the problem and will continue to be the problem no matter what he’s done in the past. He is not worth 11 mill a year and it’s not close. The game has passed him by.
Look at our recruiting class for right now. It’s all guys on defense propping up the ranking. We have no elite skill players committed to an offense that can’t crack 200 yards of total offense. You have to pay for the offensive skill talent.
That’s why we’re recruiting and taking 3 star QBs like Tait Reynolds and the other kid from Alabama I believe. It will continue to get worse with each passing year under Dabo until even the talent we do have is gone.
Dabo is done and his time is over. It’s time to move on and hire somebody that will do what it takes to effectively use every resource available to win. For 11 mill a year… we can d@mn near pick the next HC.
The greatest era of Clemson football isn’t ending today… it ended 3/4 years ago and it’s just taken everybody else time to truly let reality set in.
Dabo is the problem… bottom line and I really don’t care if you disagree.
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Clemson Conqueror [11441]
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i'm with you except................
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:14 PM
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SOMEBODY........our 30 year old AD needs to have a serious conversation with Dabo about how he needs to adjust to the new era of CFB...........Dabo at least deserves that. If he doesn't like it or refuses then he's welcome to walk away.
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That AD is going to get Dabos coffee
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:23 PM
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For sure
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National Champion [7572]
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Re: That AD is going to get Dabos coffee
Aug 31, 2024, 3:31 PM
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lol for sure. Neff stand up to Dabo? Ok, sure
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Re: That AD is going to get Dabos coffee
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Dabo doesn't have that kind of power. IPTAY is much larger than any man at Clemson. The board decides who stays and who goes at that level. Until their fed up things will not change. Stop supporting the football team financially by staying home and watching the game. Lower your donations significantly. The only way to force a change is to hit them where it hurts, the pockets.
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Re: That AD is going to get Dabos coffee
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Sep 1, 2024, 8:08 AM
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Dabo doesn't have that kind of power. IPTAY is much larger than any man at Clemson. The board decides who stays and who goes at that level. Until their fed up things will not change. Stop supporting the football team financially by staying home and watching the game. Lower your donations significantly. The only way to force a change is to hit them where it hurts, the pockets.
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Redshirt [94]
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Sep 1, 2024, 6:13 AM
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That's like talking to the wall. Times have passed him by. He's just NOT GOING TO CHANGE!!! period
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They'll need to have a slew of NCAA violations to get rid of Dabo.
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Standout [228]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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All I have to say and I've been saying it. Jamey Chadwell!
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:16 PM
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Not a bad post here
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Dynasty Maker [3355]
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He's gonna kill it before anyone else gets it
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:48 PM
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That's pride
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Redshirt [94]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 6:14 AM
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I like that hire, just don't see him leaving.
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All-In [10897]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:17 PM
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TL;DR
You’re and idiot and can find a new team.
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Asst Coach [877]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:27 PM
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TLDR but you took the time to respond?
This coming from the guy that swore Alfred was making his commitment video to Clemson while the kid was selecting Ole Miss.
lol bro you are part of the problem. You are the moron that refuses to admit what you really know deep down.
Dabos time is over bc he has flat out refused to change.
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Ring of Honor [22085]
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You are completely right. Dabo said himself that the team is too good to...
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:32 PM
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...be improved my a portal player. So that means one of two things: Dabo is lying or has no clue what he is talking about.
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All-In [10897]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:49 PM
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Bro he was, ole miss bought him last minute. Cade is the problem, he waits for a player to be open to throw it Vs throwing to a spot. Waiting to see them open and throwing, then they are not open. We need a QB, plain and simple.
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Asst Coach [830]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:59 PM
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Ok, I'll bite. If Cade is the problem, then why doesn't Dabo say so. Either way, he's the problem right now because he wants to be stubborn.
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Starter [263]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:51 PM
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maybe they need to make him some highlight films because that worked so well with DJ maybe another meeting with the secretaries
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Asst Coach [877]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:02 PM
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We’ve had a QB.
DJ was a 5 star… never got better. Cade was a 5 star… isn’t getting better. We’ve changed coordinators assistants personnel. We’ve changed everything except the one common denominator… Dabo.
Blame Cade all you want but we’ve been running this same offense for what 15 years? Everybody else has caught up and knows what we’re going to do.
Dabo said himself out of his own mouth last year that Riley was brought here to run the Clemson offense… that’s not Riley’s offense it’s Dabos.
Riley and Cade aren’t the problem. Dabo is the problem for refusing to fill gaps in the roster. He refuses to use NIL to recruit the 5 star skill talent required to beat the big boys like Georgia.
You can say what you want about Alfred but he was never coming here. He used us to get Ole Miss to increase their offer which they did. That’s why we have 1 little 3 star nobody WR committed and nothing else.
Gideon Davidson may be a good one but other than him? No skill talent in this class worth a d@mn. It will gradually get worse with each passing year.
If you want to follow Dabo and go down on the sinking ship then so be it but for those of us that spend tons of money on this program… it’s not good enough. I will not give another cent to this program until we start using NIL and the portal the same way EVERY OTHER PROGRAM IN AMERICA except the military schools are doing.
I’m not alone in this I promise you.
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You arent alone.***
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If Cade is the problem...
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:50 PM
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Why did he get every snap today?
Oooooh, because Dabo refused to give Vizz or Pearman a shot.
Ergo, Dabo is the problem.
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:41 PM
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But Dabo recruited him, and stubbornly stick with him.
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:17 PM
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What QB would commit to playing for this offense?
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Solid Orange [1347]
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:17 PM
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Spot on
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:19 PM
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Finally...a common sense approach. 2 national titles aren't worth it if it brings about another 25 years of irrelevance.
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Letterman [151]
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:20 PM
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The ACC is the problem. How do you complete against teams making more than 50 million per year more than lil ole Clemson? Ya Don't!!! Get out soon and Go Tigers!!!
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Athletic Dir [1146]
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:30 PM
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If you ain’t using the portal you ain’t winning
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Athletic Dir [1186]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:41 PM
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How much do you donate to the nil collective? All the people that want to blame dabo for not getting in the bidding wars need to put money where there mouth is.
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Solid Orange [1304]
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:53 PM
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Clemson already brings in a lot of money. No need for more. One of the highest paid coaching staffs in the country and they put this crap show on the field.
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Athletic Dir [1186]
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:58 PM
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Same question to you? If you not willing put your money up. Let others decide how they use their money. Clemson does not have deep enough pockets to compete in the bidding war. Maybe you will get your wish and we fire our complete staff, bring all new coaches on the cheap so we can buy a couple top transfers seems like Colorado has it figured out.
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:59 PM
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You can’t be serious with this crap? Thank god more people are waking up and are finally able to admit to themselves what’s happening. You are just not one of them..
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:05 PM
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We do not bring in NIL money to compete. We are starting to climb up but look at our recruiting classes and you’ll see we don’t have the money to pay big players nor the money to get them through the portal.
ACC is one reason and our fundraising is behind a decade now
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Valley Protector [1427]
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:55 PM
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right and those that want to get rid of Dabo need to pay off his contract
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Standout [246]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:43 PM
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I’m sick of hearing this excuse about money. Clemson has plenty of money. They just put it where they want to and a lot of it goes to the coaches who right now aren’t doing a very good job. Are they?
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Head Coach [935]
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Why?
Aug 31, 2024, 6:48 PM
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Dabo has said he doesn’t like the portal and if we donated more whos to say he would use it? They have $, he isn’t going to use them.
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All-Conference [415]
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Clemson doesn't spend the money on players so why do we need to switch conferences for more cash?
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CU Medallion [20929]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Aug 31, 2024, 4:55 PM
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And go where? The welcome mat ain’t out for us…
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:21 PM
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Myself and a few others have been saying this over and over and getting blasted and called coot and all the other lame names the pumpers have.
People can blame Riley/Cade/Wes and whoever else but they are the issue… Dabo is the issue. I’ve read so many threads with people saying they’d rather lose with Dabo than use the portal with somebody else.
How do you feel now? It’s not fun getting smoked like this. Just think… 5/6 years ago this type of performance would have been unimaginable but with each passing year and refusal to use NIL to acquire talent and not use the portal it’s getting consistently worse.
I’ve said it on here and I’ll say it again… we will never sniff another national championship with Dabo at the helm. He flat out refuses to play this game the way it’s played today.
Also… Georgia is absolutely not the #1 team in America. They will lose 2 or even 3 games this year. Mark this post and watch.
Appalachian St next week will be a full 4 quarter fight and it won’t shock me at all if we lose and honestly that may be the best thing that could happen.
It’s time for Dabo to go. His pride is destroying this program day by day. You have to use the portal to compete with the big boys you just have to. You have to use NIL to acquire the 5 star QB to compete with the big boys.
If you are happy with 8/9 wins a year then yes you’ll continue to be happy but anytime we get matched up with an opponent who’s better than us we will lose and lose badly just like today.
A lot of you buy that BS from Dabo that theirs nobody in the portal better than what we have yet Georgia took a transfer WR from VANDY and used him to scorch us. So a guy from Vandy is good enough to play for Georgia who has had the #1 recruiting class for like 5 straight years but theirs not a single guy in the portal that’s better than what we have?
Dabo is the problem. He’s been the problem and will continue to be the problem no matter what he’s done in the past. He is not worth 11 mill a year and it’s not close. The game has passed him by.
Look at our recruiting class for right now. It’s all guys on defense propping up the ranking. We have no elite skill players committed to an offense that can’t crack 200 yards of total offense. You have to pay for the offensive skill talent.
That’s why we’re recruiting and taking 3 star QBs like Tait Reynolds and the other kid from Alabama I believe. It will continue to get worse with each passing year under Dabo until even the talent we do have is gone.
Dabo is done and his time is over. It’s time to move on and hire somebody that will do what it takes to effectively use every resource available to win. For 11 mill a year… we can d@mn near pick the next HC.
The greatest era of Clemson football isn’t ending today… it ended 3/4 years ago and it’s just taken everybody else time to truly let reality set in.
Dabo is the problem… bottom line and I really don’t care if you disagree.
Then you can apply for the job then.....
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Asst Coach [877]
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:28 PM
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Hire me for 10 grand a year and I promise I’ll put a better product on the field than what Dabo has allowed.
Our coaches aren’t the problem. Dabo is handcuffing them completely. He is the problem and I guarand@mentee I and many others on this board could not do worse for a lot cheaper than 11 mill a year.
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Athletic Dir [1186]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:01 PM
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You lost all credibility with the post you could not do worse than a 2 time national championship coach.
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Asst Coach [877]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:10 PM
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Haha… I see your one of those guys that thinks football coaches are smarter than everybody else just bc they coach football.
So you must think that only the police know the law and not regular citizens. You must think only a chef knows how to cook right? See my point?
Just bc Dabo is the HC doesn’t mean he knows football anymore than anybody else that’s been watching playing or coaching this game their entire lives.
A coach is only as good as his players. It’s about the jimmys and joes not the x’s and the o’s. And now with NIL in place and Davis refusal to use it to acquire talent… it’s only going to get worse.
I promise you this is going to get worse before it gets better.
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Athletic Dir [1186]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:13 PM
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I see you are one of those guys that has never coached a game of football but has played madden. Thinks he can out coach paid professionals that do it for a living. You should probably apply for a head coaching job Im just guess a crappy coach like Dabo gets paid more than your current salary.
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Asst Coach [877]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:30 PM
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I see you had no response so you went back to exactly what you said in the first post.
It’s ok to admit when you’ve been beaten.
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Athletic Dir [1186]
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Response is every person has to be trained or have years to learn from mistakes to be good at something. You believe people do not need experience or need to be trained. I do not understand what response you want other than most people in the world would disagree with your belief. You are NOT on the same level as Dabo as a football coach. Are you smarter I have no idea but with your responses I have lots of doubt.
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Athletic Dir [1186]
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I would hope a trained police officer would know the law better than most citizens. I would hope a trained chef would how to cook better than a McDonalds chef. But I guess the whole world has been wasting time and money to be trained at a profession. Every post you make proves your ignorance.
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Ring of Honor [22085]
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Lazy post.
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:34 PM
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Explain why he is wrong, or can you? You can't. Move on.
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Disagree. It’s the OC and play calling.
Recruiting hasn’t been a top priority either. Especially for the O-Line which has needed help even when we had better players across the board.
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Solid Orange [1304]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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And who hired the OC?
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Ring of Honor [22893]
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To long to read.
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Ring of Honor [22085]
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Not longer than this nightmare I just watched.***
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Athletic Dir [1194]
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It was a good read. You should take the time.
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Legend [6946]
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Same - the circle jerk/sunshine pumper group tries to censor those
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that don’t agree with them.
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Re: Same - the circle jerk/sunshine pumper group tries to censor those
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Reminds me of Democrats… Will tell you how great things are and how great the leadership is. Meanwhile, everything is falling apart around them, and they will censor and blast you if you say anything to the contrary
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Re: Same - the circle jerk/sunshine pumper group tries to censor those
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Perfect. I was about to say the same. They hate free speech because the truth shatters their belief systems.
Just replace racist or a phobia with Coot. No difference.
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How do you define commitment? Is that a value of yours? I think not.
I'm all in, all the time.
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Hall of Famer [8301]
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All in for getting blown out and humiliated? Gee, bet youre fun at parties***
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:02 PM
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Associate AD [1084]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:08 PM
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I’m all in for Clemson athletics.
Clemson is bigger than one man. (Dabo)
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Freshman [11]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 4:06 AM
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Tiger_Fan_007
“How do you define commitment? Not a value of yours I see. I’m all in all the time”
I can understand posting this if you were some kind of PR bot. I can’t grasp how you could post this and think you made a point.
Your response will determine if you’re a bot or an idiot. Here’s how: 1. If you double down you’re a bot. 2. If you ask me explain it then I know you’re an imbecile and I’ll actually have to explain it to you (lol.) 3. You come up with a third option because I knew what you would think and how you would say it.
Ps: You will either go with number 3 or not respond at all. I don’t care either way
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Freshman [11]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 4:10 AM
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Typo. There should be a ‘to’ in there. By the 2. 😎
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Letterman [168]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:54 PM
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Yeah, I only started watching Clemson in 1978 and been a diehard since, and I am still a diehard and after today it is clear we are no longer in the top tier. If we are happy with 8-4 or 9-3 seasons then we can sit back and talk about the old days and how we were elite. NOT ANYMORE.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 3:57 PM
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What an absolute fool… haha. I’ve followed T-Net for years just observing but this is the most asinine assessment I’ve seen yet. The two nattys really drummed up the trash here over the years.
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Ring of Honor [22085]
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ONE post? haha...speaking of trash. Sok trash.
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:01 PM
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You're a coward.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: ONE post? haha...speaking of trash. Sok trash.
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:05 PM
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How does calling you out on dumbassery make me a coward?
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Ring of Honor [22085]
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Calling who on what dumbassery?
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:17 PM
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You defending this garbage today seems pretty dumbassery to me.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: Calling who on what dumbassery?
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:31 PM
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Garbage is hyperbole. 6-0 at half and then you get beat straight up by the number one team in the country who has arguably the deepest roster in college football. It’s morons like you asking for mass changes anytime something doesn’t go your way that have ruined program after program the last twenty years. Saban redefined everything and it’s a standard that is not sustainable. To think dynasties should be the norm is absolutely ridiculous. Coaching overturn has never gotten immediate results. Why not just enjoy the ride we had, and live with 8-4 to 10-2 seasons until all positions fall into place? Especially when we can improve over the next 3-months with a team motivated because they know they could still make the 12 team playoff. If you respond, tell me what you want the administration to do honestly. Who would you hire and what is your expectation? If you can’t give me an honest answer, you’re clearly just running your mouth looking for this type of response.
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Ring of Honor [22085]
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every time something doesn't go my way?
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:47 PM
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hahahaha...stopped reading there, dude. You refuse to see a sinking ship.
You do you, but you and your two posts of all time on Tnet pretty much have the market cornered on dumbassery.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: every time something doesn't go my way?
Aug 31, 2024, 4:49 PM
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Sound like Kamala… I asked what you would want from this program and got nothing. Give me answers or accept how irrelevant your views are.
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Solid Orange [1304]
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Re: every time something doesn't go my way?
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Sep 1, 2024, 10:41 AM
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I'll tell you what I want.
I want accountability from this coaching staff, specifically Dabo. Dabo needs to quit saying that "it's on him" and do something about it.
Next week, after App State hands us our butts, Dabo will turn to his old, tired gaslighting the fans and reminding us about all he's done for Clemson and how we fans don't appreciate he and his program.
Dabo has had plenty of chances to fix the problems that have plagued this program since 2020, and he hasn't.
If we are going to settle for 7 - 9 win seasons, then we need to reduce the costs of the program by reducing coaching salaries (including Dabo's) and reducing headcount in our AD and quit driving up costs of season ticket and IPTAY dues.
We have a program with big-time college football costs but not a big-time product on the field.
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Standout [246]
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Starter [263]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:54 PM
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those are ancient history How much have we paid Dabo SINCE he won those championships for the sad mediocre product of a team he puts out there
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Tiger Titan [47494]
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I dont think anyone has the guts to have a serious conversation with Dabo.
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:05 PM
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He’s considered untouchable and no one wants to risk offending him.
Dabo has publicly threatened to leave if he doesn’t feel appreciated. No AD or president is going to risk the backlash that would ensue if Dabo got offended by what one of his bosses said and left.
Unless, of course, things get so bad that Dabo’s grace period from our elite run from 2015-2020 ran out. Then the risk would at least be calculated.
I don’t think it’s worth it yet. Too many fans think he is the best coach for us and don’t desire any change. And I certainly don’t want him to leave, but he absolutely needs to make some major changes in how he runs the program. That’s obvious to anyone paying attention.
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Game Changer [1909]
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Re: I dont think anyone has the guts to have a serious conversation with Dabo.
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:16 PM
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Bingo. Let Dabo stay and completely destroy his name. We can let him go and rebuild is quicker today. I'd make sure his reputation ensured he never earned another head coaching gig. His arrogant and trying to deflect his own short comings on his fan base that pays a lot of his salary. #unethicalman!!
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Legend [6946]
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Re: I dont think anyone has the guts to have a serious conversation with Dabo.
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:46 PM
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He will lose a game like this by 30, but will find a reason to say the fans are the issue because we demand too much and he has done soooo much for the university. It’s like he wants everyone to believe no other coach can come here and do better than him. We have incredible fans, facilities, and an outstanding university. We can get any coach we want and we deserve one who can win at the elite level.
Changes are needed if this team doesn’t go at least 11-2 with an ACC championship with a trip to the playoffs. We need to demand to be Elite. If Dabo doesn’t want to be Elite, nothing is stopping him from going to a school that doesn’t demand that. Remember Terry Don fired Tommy Bowden for the same reasons and it’s time to give Dabo the same ultimatum.
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Game Changer [1685]
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Re: I dont think anyone has the guts to have a serious conversation with Dabo.
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:08 PM
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I'm still processing what we saw today, and honestly, I think I'll need a couple more games to form an opinion comfortably. I did see a few things that looked better, but obviously there is no overstating the outcome. All that said, I do want to believe that if the trajectory of the program is in trouble, those admin/AD's would atleast have a frank and honest discussion with Dabo about changes they expect him to make. At minimum, he's owed that from respect. From a practical standpoint, maybe he is willing to take that directive, follow it, and use it to improve Clemson.
And somewhere, nagging at the back of my mind, I'm like "is there something to this portal view" that the entire world is missing but Dabo has it figured out. I don't know. But I don't want him leaving anytime soon, especially if he's willing and able to make changes that get results.
Frustrated and confused, but still a grateful Tiger.
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National Champion [7745]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:17 PM
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Agree, but Dabo is treated like a god by the local media, the administration, and the majority of fans. He knows it. He’ll just use his “I’ll just leave if you don’t appreciate me!” And everybody will shut up and keep ground hog day going that is Clemson Football.
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Tiger Titan [47494]
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The cult like environment needs to stop.***
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:19 PM
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Solid Orange [1362]
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Re: The cult like environment needs to stop.***
Aug 31, 2024, 5:45 PM
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Smelly
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MVP [549]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:26 PM
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You Dabo is the problem guys are out of control. Dabo is the only one that can get us back into contention. We do not have the money to compete with the current model of college football and it is what it is. Yes, Kirby only uses the portal to sprinkle in (11) new transfers in the 2 deep lol. What do you think that 11 new guys but also the #1 class in America cost? More than our Alumni can afford to match for sure. We have missed on our last two QB's for sure. If we flipped the #1 for #2 Cade vs Stroud we are in the final 4 the last 3 years.
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Game Changer [1909]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:30 PM
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Go away cult follower. Fans like you are quickly becoming outnumbered and you know it. Dabo Era is ending and it isn't going to be pretty. For 8-4 or 9-3 he shouldn't be making 11 million a year. Cut his pay by 2.5/yr and put it towards NIL. watch the program rise again. It's a business now. He isn't willing to play the game so go away and he can take his sheep with him!!
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Starter [263]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:58 PM
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Ken Hatfield was 8 and 3 and we threw him out like the trash and he got paid nowhere hear what Dabo is
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MVP [549]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:04 PM
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Dude I have been on this site since 98 and a fan since probably before you were born so I wont go away but I will disagree and say that to run off the most successful coach in Clemson History because we went 9-4 and trying to figure out the landscape the right now probably not.
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Solid Orange [1362]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:52 PM
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Exactly; it's the "haters thread;" let 'em vent and scream into the void...absolutely no one is listening
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Standout [202]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 8:03 AM
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Definitely less and less sunshine pumpers than last year. Dabs prob enjoying his 11 million view from the back porch this morning sipping on coffee and eating some grits and egg.
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All-Conference [431]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Aug 31, 2024, 4:28 PM
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Are you drunk? If so just stop and sober up.
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Freshman [-95]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:29 PM
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Excellent truthful post
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Team Captain [495]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:34 PM
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You my friend are absolutely correct. 4 years of this junk and people will blame everyone but Dabo. Dabo made us great, but that was a different game then. The game has passed him by. He didn’t adapt, gambled on doing things his way and it failed. Now we look like a Tommy Bowden program.
Dabo can still rectify this. I 100% believe that, but he has to start accepting his way hasn’t worked and make big changes in how he approaches this off season. Portal use for starters, coaching changes and player development need to be his top focus. If he doesn’t, we need a change if we want to be an elite program again.
If we like being “little ol’ Clemson” , going 9-3 and getting blown out by elite teams, Dabo is a perfect coach for us. So, it’s time to decide what direction we go from here. Try to be elite and make a change or accept being average. We have had 4 years of this and we aren’t close to competing at the top level anymore….we are average, plain and simple.
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Associate AD [1041]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:38 PM
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Dabos humility and confidence 100% built this program up. His pride and arrogance have destroyed it. A fine line.
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Freshman [9]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 7:53 AM
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He owes Tyler from Spartanburg an apology. Tyler was right.
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Game Changer [1788]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 5:50 PM
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Dabos humility and confidence 100% built this program up. His pride and arrogance have destroyed it. A fine line.
^^^^^^^ THIS
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Solid Orange [1362]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Aug 31, 2024, 4:38 PM
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Those were alot of words; too bad I didn't read 'em👍😁
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Asst Coach [877]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:40 PM
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You didn’t read but took the time to post… will never understand that and never understand how people that come on a thread just to say they didn’t read it don’t understand how stupid and ridiculous they look when they do that.
Not one person on this board cares if you read it or not.
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Ring of Honor [22085]
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Exactly..
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:51 PM
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But he read it, though.
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Recruit [63]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:39 PM
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You think using the portal would have made the difference today? Seriously? Unless you're bringing in Patrick Maholmes and the Kansas City Chiefs, how much money are you paying to not only match but to get better athletes and players than what Georgia has right now???
A portal player or two might be the difference in beating Florida State and winning the ACC (how did the Seminoles look by the way last week?) but it would take more than a portal player or two to beat Georgia.
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Asst Coach [877]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:44 PM
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Where did I ever say that not using the portal is the ONLY problem?
I never said that. It’s just one of the MANY problems Dabo has created by publicly acknowledging he doesn’t need the portal.
Dabos own mouth is what has backed him into this corner and now he will look like a total hypocrite if he starts using the portal and that will be used against him.
Dabos pride and mouth are what have helped to create what we’ve become. An above average football team that happens to play in the weak ACC which will allow us to keep winning 8/9 games a year and Dabo can keep pointing and saying see… we’re close… without ever actually being close to national championship contention.
If we do win the ACC and we very well might bc it’s just that bad… we will get destroyed in the 2nd round of the playoffs no matter who we play.
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Team Captain [495]
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:53 PM
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Yes, the portal is only a part of the problem, but his attitude towards it shows the big problem.
His ego, arrogance and refusal to adapt sunk the ship he did such an incredible job building.
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Asst Coach [890]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Aug 31, 2024, 4:56 PM
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TigerRag since you spend tons on this program I assume you are fighting mid town traffic on your way home. I do disagree with you and glad you don't mind. Dabo was given time to build the program, and boy did he build it. Frustrating as it is, I am willing to give him more time to re-build the program.
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Starter [263]
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:00 PM
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how much time? 5 years? 10? 50 Doing the same thing and expecting different results is insanity Go back and watch any games over the last couple of years and tell me how much we have improved
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Rock Defender [50]
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Sep 1, 2024, 2:03 PM
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The qb from Ndame, Miami or Oregon would have made a difference
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Rival Killer [2630]
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Please pull for someone else***
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Aug 31, 2024, 4:54 PM
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Varsity [222]
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My friends and I said the same thing after the game. I hate it. The truth hurts***
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Fan [38]
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:10 PM
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The problem is quarterback play. DJ was sub-par and so is Cade.
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Rival Killer [2775]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Aug 31, 2024, 5:47 PM
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You have no clue if Georgia is number 1.
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Letterman [162]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:34 PM
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Great leaders like Coach K adjusted when environment changed.
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1st Rounder [653]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:54 PM
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Spot on. Dabo is absolutely the problem. He’s recruits, hires the assistants, and sets the portal policy. He was able to get away with being a mediocre coach by recruiting incredible talent. Now he’s getting exposed and I for one want him to leave Clemson.
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Freshman [9]
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Sep 1, 2024, 7:56 AM
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Yup spot on. We’ve been saying this since we lost to LSU in the natty. The run up to the natty that season was painful. We’ve been falling apart in slow motion since TL carried the teams ability to score.
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Game Changer [1788]
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Sep 1, 2024, 5:59 PM
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Yup spot on. We’ve been saying this since we lost to LSU in the natty. The run up to the natty that season was painful. We’ve been falling apart in slow motion since TL carried the teams ability to score.
We won 29 straight games before losing to LSU, probably the greatest team of the 4-team playoffs. Trevor had one of his worst games of his career and Tony would not run the ball, a huge mistake that he admitted the following week. We were good the Covid year, poor secondary lost the OSU playoff game, not the offense. Having said that, I agree that our days as a title contender are over with our current recruiting situation. We lose almost every recruit to the big boys with money and the portal would definitely help. We would have lost yesterday with Cam Ward under center but I expect it would have been 27-17 or something similar. Having 2 5-star QBs play like walk-ons for the last 4 years is the #1 problem. We're 8-4 or worse with Cade.
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Athletic Dir [1141]
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:00 PM
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Yep
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Redshirt [94]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 6:10 AM
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When the money leaves and only then will anything get done. When positions are threatened (AD). Results will be seen.
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Redshirt [94]
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Sep 1, 2024, 6:11 AM
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You're not a Coot, you care about your program.
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Letterman [164]
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Sep 1, 2024, 9:33 AM
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All this after one game? We got our butts kicked by the No. 1 team in the country. The offense played poorly - they aren't what we'd hoped yet. They will improve. This does not mean Dabo's philosopy is wrong, just that Georgia has a lot of good players - some bought and paid for, some with character issues that Clemson wouldn't take, and some that just preferred a looser run program. Remember that we didn't have such lofty expectations before Dabo. You sound like all the people who wanted to get rid of Brad Brownell - no historical perspective.
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Tiger Cub [13]
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Sep 1, 2024, 11:48 AM
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You’re living in 2019. Hate to say it. Yesterday was inexcusable. Last few years are inexcusable. He set the standard and he’s not living up to it.
Your comment would have been said about Tommy Bowden
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1st Rounder [642]
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Sep 1, 2024, 12:03 PM
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Don't forget we also got out but kicked by an 8-5 Duke this time last year. We were supposed to improve last year, but nothing has changed. Its not Dabo…the portal wont fix it. It is exact Nick Saban said... “If you don’t pay the right guys you’re s— outta luck.” Unfortunately Clemson does not have the pockets to bring in (and keep) the top recruits anymore. We are just the first to fall because we dont use the port. Those non deep pocket schools that are using the portal are just prolonging the inevitable. You can thank the NCAA and NIL for this mess.
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Standout [249]
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Sep 1, 2024, 10:11 AM
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Dabo is a hard headed dude but most of this post is just garbage. Georgia is better than we are. They are better than everyone. Hate you don’t like it but it’s true. Dabo will need to adapt if he wants to compete at this level but he will do it on his own terms. He doesn’t give a crap about what you or Tyler from Spartanburg thinks.
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Offensive Star [341]
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Sep 1, 2024, 10:13 AM
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Can you please call into the coach's show tomorrow night (or whenver it is)?
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1st Rounder [642]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 10:15 AM
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I really don't think Dabo is the problem…NIL is the problem. Clemson doesn't have the deep pockets to maintain longevity competition in the NIL arena.
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Orange Immortal [60068]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 10:50 AM
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We have not lost a game bc of failure to use the portal. Even Kirby said that if they retain players the same as we do, he wouldn't have the need for the portal either...
The biggest difference in Dabo using the portal and Kirby using the portal, Kirby has a lot more money to get the top portal players and Dabo doesn't!!!
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Varsity [103]
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Dabo's gaslighting has won them for life
Sep 1, 2024, 11:29 AM
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I'm a proud coot too.
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Solid Orange [1328]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Sep 1, 2024, 12:33 PM
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Dabo is an excellent college football coach. Too bad there’s no such thing as college football anymore.
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Game Changer [2044]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 12:46 PM
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and you and your few remain football idiots...
Can I have your tickets?
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Tiger Cub [11]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 1:29 PM
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You r idiot go follow someone else never fun to loose we r not firing him bozo
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Offensive Star [300]
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Re: Dabo is the problem - NOT!
Sep 1, 2024, 1:45 PM
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Dabo is one of the best recruiters in college football, and he's super competitive. We are #### fortunate to have him. He'll do what he needs to do to get it done as he's done in the past with coaching changes. You can bet that Gamecocks and ACC teams are hoping he leaves.
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Offensive Star [300]
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Re: Dabo is the problem - NOT!
Sep 1, 2024, 1:47 PM
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Dabo is one of the best recruiters in college football, and he's super competitive. We are #### fortunate to have him. He'll do what he needs to do to get it done as he's done in the past with coaching changes. You can bet that Gamecocks and ACC teams are hoping he leaves.
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Associate AD [1039]
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Prior to Dabo's arrival, We hadn't "sniffed out" a NC since 1980***
Sep 1, 2024, 2:13 PM
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 2:24 PM
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Finebaum coot.
Blame can be spread a lot of places.
It is not a level playing field. SEC/Big Ten schools have 10's millions per year more for football. Georgia graduates 49% of players and Clemson 99%. As a Clemson graduate I am proud of loyalty to recruits and graduation rates. Go pick another team and coach to complain and wine about.
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Orange Blooded [2495]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
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Sep 1, 2024, 2:54 PM
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LMFAO. FSU say hello. Portal has some options, no doubt, but to say it's the answer is coming from someone who is an ESPN chump. Georgia has transfers, yes, but you have to be selective. This idea that the portal is the solution is dumb. The portal is full of those who didn't make it at a premiere school, or are just looking for a payday. Friggin Saban got out because he saw just how much the portal has destroyed college football.
Yes. I'm behind Dabo. He turned this program around. He made it relevant again. As far as I'm concerned, he has merited the right to right the ship. He went after Riley because Riley appeared to be a very promising o.c. so Dabo is hiring an o.c. to try to correct our offensive issues, yet he's the problem??? Part of our issue is Klubnik. He seems to have picked up the same issue as dju. And even vizzina seems to be having issues. We need a QB coach that can fix that.
To believe that the portal is the only answer is wrong. Do you believe that tampering isn't going on? We are trying to climb back out of the malaise we entered. Part of the problem can be laid at the feet of the players. To be the best, you have to practice, study, lift and have the mindset of actually working for it. I believe the mindset of the last few classes was that they deserved, rather than earn, the trophy.
I, also, agree with Dabo that the men coming into the program need an education. How many young men are on the football team? How many make it to the NFL? Very few. Of the ones who make it, how many stay for more than a year??? We see Clemson players go into the NFL and bounce from practice squad to squad. And when that runs out??? I'll take 9 win seasons if these young men are given a better chance at life. The WHOLE point of college is to better ones self through education. We know that there are many young men, that come from poor families, who get to college because they have talent to play college ball, but not more. Many of these young men are being deluded into thinking they're going to be making millions, and then get chewed up and spit out. To me, that's abuse of the worst kind.
Sorry. I'll take Dabo all day, every day. There will come a point where Dabo is done. Considering the landscape of "college" ball, it will probably be here fairly soon. Saban exited because of the nonsense and he's arguably the GOAT. He took transfers and he was on the decline.
Oh well. Once Dabo is gone, by his choice or IPTAY, the coots will still not be any where near as good as us.
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Asst Coach [877]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 4:54 PM
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Not once did I say the portal was the only problem or the only solution. People read what they want to read I suppose.
Sorry some of you aren’t ready to admit it and haven’t seen the light. We’re all going down on this sinking ship so we’ll strap in and hate the ride.
Your team is your team especially when it’s instilled from birth so you can’t just remove them out of your heart and soul. It’s sad that a lot are ready to watch our once elite program fall back into mediocrity all bc you love Dabo more than Clemson.
It is what it is.
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Clemson Icon [27622]
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Re: Dabo is the problem***
Sep 1, 2024, 5:34 PM
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Re: Dabo is NOT the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 5:33 PM
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I support Dabo's culture and his position on NIL and the portal. That's not what cost us the game yesterday. Clemson had too many execution mistakes/penalties. Not necessarily the coaches fault. Players make plays. I'm all in all the time.
More people need to speak out against NIL and the portal. They are ruining college football.
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Legend [7016]
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Re: Dabo is the problem
Sep 1, 2024, 6:04 PM
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I agree except the part about UGA losing. They go into playoffs undefeated.
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