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Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O
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Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O

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Aug 31, 2025, 11:04 AM
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It’s critical that he’s surrounded with a Chad Morris and a Brent Venables, they need to be able to have a say in their respective position coaches, and Dabo can give the motivational speeches, be the mentor and the face of Clemson.

This hiring ex players and giving them a shot, hiring your sons as coaches, failure to use the portal will not win championships. We’ve got what it takes to win the ACC every other year or so, but we’re not serious contenders for the playoffs anymore and will get a reputation of getting there to be an easy blowout for whomever we draw.

I’m afraid that’s our fate and I’ve accepted it, I just hope this doesn’t go on so long the brand is forever tarnished to the point we can’t get another coach to come in who will take championships serious.

I loved Tommy Bowden, he turned the program around and when the time came for change Dabo took it to the next level. Soon we are staring another change in the face and I can only hope we keep moving forward and upward and not slide back to a mess!

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O

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Aug 31, 2025, 11:24 AM
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Tommy Bowden was great if you enjoyed settling for FGs. Problem is that the other team was scoring TDs and our FGs could not keep up with that.

You can't argue against the fact that Dabo is the greatest coach Clemson has ever had. Look at the results. I don't care what title you want to give him or if you want to say he isn't this or isn't that. The results don't lie. I will however vent my frustration that he's a stubborn person stuck in his own reality oftentimes determined to avoid admitting he was wrong. That's one of his biggest sins IMHO....PRIDE. He often comes around WAY LATE without admitting anything. I think the frustration is his slow realization that he needs to swallow his pride and make change. I supposed the BEST IS YET TO COME is referring to something years out from now. I'm sure he's doing his best to mold young boys into fine and outstanding men. That's great and a cherry on top but that's not what he was hired primarily to do.

I agree with your point about the nepotism of Dabo Swinney. In that regard, he's in the driver's seat. Don't like it then I'm sure he'd get mad and say "bye". It's his PRIDE again getting in the way expectations that the football team perform better on the field. He's probably gone soon enough anyone when his last son's graduates from Clemson. Maybe he'll stick around a little longer so said third son can get some "coaching" experience under his belt at Clemson.

He needs to find out why Riley doesn't seem to have what it takes for the OL to perform and why the receivers can't get separation in addition to Riley's lack of offensive innovation. It sure looks like Riley is just a clone of Streeter. The two things in common with Riley and Streeter are that Dabo is their boss. Maybe Dabo needs to look into a mirror to identify the problem.

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O

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Aug 31, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Sad but true

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Streeter and Riley are NOTHING alike. Not even in the same hemisphere .


Aug 31, 2025, 3:08 PM
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Frankly I think Streeter was given a raw deal. He had to deal with DJU and a QB in Cade who wasn’t yet developed.

Streeter is a good offensive mind, and he instilled a tougher approach. He should have been given the chance to coach a good QB. Instead Dabo saw an opportunity to bring in what was the hottest OC in the land, thinking it’s what we needed. Watching Riley call way too many passes straight plays and not adjust to what the other team is doing, it’s concerning to say the least.

But no, Streeter and Riley are NOTHING alike. Not at all.

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O

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Aug 31, 2025, 11:54 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O ]
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Dabo has his fingers in the offensive pie. Reilly has no say in his coaches either. Sucks but there you go.

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Youre clueless

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Aug 31, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Dabo isn’t calling plays. He has input like every head coach.

What are you even taking about Dabo doesn’t let Riley pick coaches?

It’s always hilarious when people post stuff like this smugly pretending it’s reality, when interest they’re things made up on your head.

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Both the OP and you are spot on.


Aug 31, 2025, 12:04 PM [ in reply to Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O ]
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Dabo will tell you himself that his focus is on molding young men, not just winning games. And honestly, that’s part of why we love him.

But you can only drop so many games against quality opponents while hiring ex-players and refusing to use the portal effectively before people start questioning the program and that high-dollar salary.

What makes it worse is we’re not even seeing the player development anymore. That’s always been the excuse for not bringing in more talent, and it just isn’t holding up.

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O


Aug 31, 2025, 1:05 PM [ in reply to Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O ]
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Anyone that doesn’t agree or question Dabo having some input in some way in he offense hasn’t watch us the last 4-5 years … and to be honest it goes back to the Trevor days but when you have Trevor and ETN you can call a boring offense because they make a two yard dump pass today an 85 yard td back then… totally diff talent levels than what we have now to hide it … but this offense has been nothing what it was when Chad Morris was hired… when he left it seemed to get dumbed down and lazy imo bc we had super talented players and now when you have average or slightly above average players and OL and especially rb it doesn’t work at all. Chad came in and ran that offense and from game one it looked completely different than anything we had seen and it was fun and hard to stop and kept defenses on their heels. Now I feel like defenses can run two base plays and pretty much stop us with any type of athletic ability on defense with occasional pressure … this offense is pathetic and Riley and Cade have been together way too long for it to still look like this… when you constantly try to win 17-14 or hold on to 10-3 leads you will get beat.

We had the ball on their like 35 with a 10-3 lead and that play calling was atrocious and settled for a missed fg… its very hard to watch and just seems like there’s absolutely not rythm and defenses know exactly what we are doing.

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O

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Aug 31, 2025, 11:27 AM
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Our offense is putrid. The glory days of DW and TL were pre-NIL and portal. Though I hate both, this is the game today. Bringing in a token one or two won’t keep up with the others teams, even in the weak ACC. For the defenders of our culture, ok - be content with what we saw last night. However, the gap will only widen. Add the OJT coaching hires into the mix, it’s worse.

It is what it is. The coach speak will continue as we come up short. (This and that, but not that we haven’t adapted to the new game, and our inability to develop (properly coach and scheme) the players we do have.

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O


Aug 31, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Yup

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O


Aug 31, 2025, 11:43 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O ]
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They don’t even need to completely rebuild the roster to be competitive. They need to supplement weak spots on the roster, which out of the three transfers only one was MAYBE a need and that was Heldt. Denhoff is not good enough for the level we want to be at, so that was a need for the offseason. The other two transfers didn’t see the field last night, and are part of the two stronger groups Clemson already had.

They are really lacking at RB, and that was clear last night as they only had 32 yards rushing. I think Davidson is the future, but if we are relying on Adam Randall to be the main back then they are going to struggle until another true RB can get into a rhythm. I’m shocked they didn’t make a real run at bringing in an experienced back (although I don’t know who they contacted) so Eziomume and Davidson can get experience and reps with having to be “the guy”.

Ohio St, Texas, LSU, Mich., Alabama, etc. don’t rebuild every year, they retool. Dabo needs to be more honest with himself and his players about talent and production, and bring in players who will elevate the team. There’s a lot of time left to figure it out, but they will definitely get left behind with the “good not great” teams while the blue bloods of the sport compete for titles every year if things don’t change.

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This used to be said


Aug 31, 2025, 11:56 AM
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Prior to the greatest run in Clemson history

Cool story bro.

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Re: This used to be said

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Aug 31, 2025, 12:07 PM
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It is very clear that Brent Venables and Chad Morris/Jeff Scott were responsible for that run. Somewhere, sometime during that Dabo thought it was him

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To be fair, also the game changed, he didn't.***

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Aug 31, 2025, 12:09 PM
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Yeah. The portal makes you elite huh, Charmin?***

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Aug 31, 2025, 12:20 PM
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Then what is it? We aren't beating quality teams anymore.***


Aug 31, 2025, 12:22 PM
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In my witnessed opinion


Aug 31, 2025, 12:37 PM
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The air raid offense struggles against better defenses. Always has since its inception. It’s an absolute requirement to develop a running game to complement the passing game, and I’m tired of Riley saying “we abandoned the run too soon”. The running game does nothing against better teams and it allows teams like LSU to tee off on the passing game.

That and the inconsistency of Cade Klubnick, which was my personal biggest concern coming into the season, has reared its ugly head right out of the gate. Having a solid running game that DEMANDS respect would help him, but his accuracy, demeanor, and coolness under pressure haven’t seemed to have changed much over the years.

It was one game, but I’m concerned Cade may have peaked and this is what he is. He’s had one good game against an elite team, Texas, who was the 3rd ranked defense in the country, but he looked nothing like that in any other games against the better competition. Again, part of that is the soft air raid offense that undervalues a complementary running game.

And Riley is Riley, an air raid disciple who apparently never learned that teams who run it have never accomplished anything on the biggest stages. Without a running game that demands respect, you get teams that have the talent to make the air raid look silly. Attack it and punish it - just like LSU did. I’m concerned Riley is just picking plays and doesn’t seem to understand the importance of adjusting, for example not running things on the edge to slow the LSU rush. Just kept calling the same plays - usually requiring too much time to develop and Cade is not very good under pressure. Sorry, that’s just my impression based on seeing him since his sophomore season.

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Re: In my witnessed opinion


Aug 31, 2025, 1:57 PM
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You sir are correct what has an air raid team actually won? Nothing more than maybe a big 12 championship. It’s not an offense that can win these big games. We’ll score points against our average ACC competition but against teams with a pulse and comparative talent it’s hard. Also I will admit no scheme is great when your OL sucks.

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So the greatest head coaches of all time didnt have good assistants?

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Aug 31, 2025, 12:23 PM [ in reply to Re: This used to be said ]
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You don’t seem to understand how the whole coaching thing works.

Dabo is moving up the ladder of the most accomplished coaches of all time. It’s not like the greatest coaches of all time didn’t have great assistants behind the scenes.

And by the way, Tony Elliott called the plays. He was the OC for the two nattys. Jeff Scott was an assistant to Tony.

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Re: So the greatest head coaches of all time didnt have good assistants?


Aug 31, 2025, 12:38 PM
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Yes and Tony Elliott. Either way Dabo needs to hire top notch assistants again and keep changing them like Nick Saban did until you find something that’s clicking. It’s obvious that Dabo doesn’t know what plays to call or he’d be doing it. Spurrier on the other hand was X and O called his own plays and managed the QB room. So yes I get it and you just underscored it

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SHUT UP


Aug 31, 2025, 12:08 PM
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NO da ON A MESSAGE MATTERS

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O


Aug 31, 2025, 12:10 PM
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The problem is the offensive line can't block anybody. Until you fix that problem, nothing else is going to matter.

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Re: Dabo is a CO, Not and X and O


Aug 31, 2025, 12:32 PM
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If we were still pre NIL I would have faith moving forward with our chances at titles. But given the past few years I think it’s clear this mentality of long leashes, giving guys their first break, and lack of creativity with offense I see Clemson moving forward as a 1 out of every 5 years being a top10 threat and falling back to 9 wins until Dani retires. Because let’s be honest he’s leaving in his own terms.

And as far as if we did change with nil, I just don’t see us competing with the top programs until money is capped and shared in a more egalitarian way

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