|
Replies: 14
| visibility 2281
|
110%er [3719]
TigerPulse: 100%
35
|
Coaching comparison since 1989
7
7
Nov 21, 2024, 6:58 AM
|
|
Since Leon Trotsky's thread got RETIRED
1 2024 8 - 2 at least 1 more win maybe 2-3 & Bowl
2-16 2007-2023 3 seasons with less than 10 wins, 1 season with less than
9, 9 ACC Championships, 23 Bowls(2 CFP 1st Rd, 4 CFP Champ Games, 2
Nat Championships. 156 - 42 Dabo Swinney
Vs
17 2008 7 6 0 Tommy Bowden (3-3), Dabo Swinney (4-3) Gator (L)
18 2007 9 4 0 Tommy Bowden (9-4) Chick-fil-A (L)
19 2006 8 5 0 Tommy Bowden (8-5) Music City (L)
20 2005 8 4 0 Tommy Bowden (8-4) Champs (W)
21 2004 6 5 0 Tommy Bowden (6-5)
22 2003 9 4 0 Tommy Bowden (9-4) Peach Bowl (W)
23 2002 7 6 0 Tommy Bowden (7-6) Tangerine Bowl (L)
24 2001 7 5 0 Tommy Bowden (7-5) Humanitarian Bowl (W)
25 2000 9 3 0 Tommy Bowden (9-3) Gator Bowl (L)
26 1999 6 6 0 Tommy Bowden (6-6) Peach Bowl (L)
27 1998 3 8 0 Tommy West (3-8)
28 1997 7 5 0 Tommy West (7-5) Peach Bowl (L)
29 1996 7 5 0 Tommy West (7-5) Peach Bowl (L)
30 1995 8 4 0 Tommy West (8-4) Gator Bowl (L)
31 1994 5 6 0 Tommy West (5-6)
32 1993 9 3 0 Ken Hatfield (8-3), T West (1-0) Peach Bowl (W)
33 1992 5 6 0 Ken Hatfield (5-6)
34 1991 ACC Ch 9 2 1 Ken Hatfield (9-2-1) Citrus Bowl (L)
35 1990 10 2 0 Ken Hatfield (10-2)
133 – 89 - 1
Message was edited by: djones73®
Message was edited by: djones73®
|
|
|
|
 |
110%er [3719]
TigerPulse: 100%
35
|
Re: Coaching comparison since 1989
2
Nov 21, 2024, 6:59 AM
|
|
I wouldn't trade!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [17359]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 15339
Joined: 1999
|
At least 3 losses every season after Hatfields first two seasons
3
Nov 21, 2024, 7:24 AM
|
|
And at least 4 every season since Hatfield
Hatfield was very unlucky to follow Ford; just a bad fit. Wrong place, wrong time. Cautionary tale for DeBoer and whomever follows Dabo.
Dabo has had 4 losses ONCE in the last 13 seasons. I know we could have 4 this season, but not likely.
Boy, that 1991 ACC Championship really sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn’t it? Dang FSU!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2145]
TigerPulse: 100%
32
|
One thing that sticks out beyond the things you mention are the bowl losses.
6
6
Nov 21, 2024, 9:00 AM
|
|
I mean 4-10 in bowls is horrible plus five years without a bowl between the Danny and Dabo years, a total of 18 years. We finished ranked in the top ten (9th) once in those 18 years and in the top 25 a total of 7 times in 18 years.
Since Dabo took over we have played in a bowl every year and because of the playoffs, two post season games in four different years. A total of 19 bowl (post season) games in 15 years, 12-7, with at least one post season win in 10 of 15 years and two of the losses in national championship games. Plus 8 of the 15 years we finished ranked in the top 10 and were in the top 25 every year but one with two Natty's.
It is great to have been so good over the last 15 years that people whine when we lose a couple of games. I realize many of you weren't around for the previous 18 years before Dabo but those years were horrible.
In my mind the elevation of this program by Dabo has earned him a lifetime pass as long as we are competitive and continue to have winning records every year. Look at EVERY school out there not named Alabama over the last 15 years and tell me who's results you would trade for ours.
GO TIGERS!!!
Message was edited by: 1994CUTIGER®
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Elite [74661]
TigerPulse: 100%
61
Posts: 118495
Joined: 1998
|
Re: One thing that sticks out beyond the things you mention are the bowl losses.
2
Nov 21, 2024, 9:10 AM
|
|
Making a bowl is nice but far easier now than in the old days. Seems like everyone can go to some bowl just for having a pulse.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2145]
TigerPulse: 100%
32
|
Re: One thing that sticks out beyond the things you mention are the bowl losses.
1
Nov 21, 2024, 9:23 AM
|
|
It has been that way for a while, that is why I said Dabo deserves a pass as long as we are competitive and continue to have winning records every year, not go to a bowl every year. Going to a bowl with a 6-6 or 5-7 record is not acceptable. I believe the expectation should be 7 or more wins in occasional down years and the normal expectation of 9 or more wins.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16757]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 21797
Joined: 2007
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2145]
TigerPulse: 100%
32
|
Re: One thing that sticks out beyond the things you mention are the bowl losses.
Nov 21, 2024, 10:26 AM
|
|
It is very valid. The only times we have missed going to a bowl since Hatfield took over were losing records and a brawl with a 6-5 record.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dynasty Maker [3513]
TigerPulse: 89%
34
|
Re: One thing that sticks out beyond the things you mention are the bowl losses.
2
Nov 22, 2024, 12:18 PM
[ in reply to Re: One thing that sticks out beyond the things you mention are the bowl losses. ] |
|
Yeah But Clemson did not go to just any ole bowl.
Come on dude! Give credit where it is due!
There are only 2 possible candidates for the greatest coach of the 21rst century and perhaps even all times they are Nick Saban and Dabo !
Get over yourself!
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1522]
TigerPulse: 93%
30
|
Re: Coaching comparison since 1989
3
Nov 21, 2024, 9:03 AM
|
|
I am always surprised when I realize that Clemson held onto Tommy Bowden for 10 years.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2367]
TigerPulse: 100%
32
|
Re: Coaching comparison since 1989
Nov 21, 2024, 9:41 AM
|
|
I was thinking the same thing looking at all those subpar records. I think Bobby Bowden being at Florida State gave him a few extra years because of father son matchup’s. The who is Ann Bowdens team .. boring tenure.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16757]
TigerPulse: 100%
51
Posts: 21797
Joined: 2007
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Spirit [9966]
TigerPulse: 57%
44
Posts: 13074
Joined: 2006
|
Re: Coaching comparison since 1989
1
Nov 21, 2024, 10:00 AM
|
|
One big difference between Danny and those that followed him was he treated Bowl games as chances to win against some great coaches and programs and Bowden maybe looked at the games as rewards and an opportunity to get ahead for the next year. We were lucky enough to go to bowl games against teams coached by coaches like Hayes, Paterno, Osborne, and Switzer and winning those games was hugely important to Danny and his players. Dabo sees both reasons to win and the results are evident.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dynasty Maker [3513]
TigerPulse: 89%
34
|
Re: Coaching comparison since 1989
1
Nov 21, 2024, 10:18 AM
|
|
Yeah Fire Dabo! Any coach that can win every game He coaches is a fraud! Worthless ! Useless!
We are Clemson and we DESERVE to win every Game by a score of at least 100-0.
Come on man!!! Fire Dabo and all his coaches and get rid of all the players!!! I deserve to win!
Best is my standard! At least when someone else is doing the work!!! Yall have a good day!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dynasty Maker [3513]
TigerPulse: 89%
34
|
Re: Coaching comparison since 1989
Nov 21, 2024, 11:49 AM
|
|
Yeah Fire Dabo! Any coach that can win every game He coaches is a fraud! Worthless ! Useless!
We are Clemson and we DESERVE to win every Game by a score of at least 100-0.
Come on man!!! Fire Dabo and all his coaches and get rid of all the players!!! I deserve to win!
Best is my standard! At least when someone else is doing the work!!! Yall have a good day!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 14
| visibility 2281
|
|
|
50
