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110%er [3752]
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Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 8:23 AM
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You know we're good when people are saying that we're "back" when we were just in the playoffs in 2020 and won the conference in 2022.
We literally had two "down" years (one consisting of 10 wins and a bowl victory and the other with 9 wins and a bowl victory) and people wrote us off 🤣.
Crazy.
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Paw Warrior [5071]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 8:28 AM
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Indeed. We really pulled decent seasons off those years. Still better than pretty much anything from Hatfield through Bowden.
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National Champion [7571]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 8:31 AM
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The last 3 seasons of Clemson football would be historic run of greatness at about 100 other D1 Universities.
Clemson simply had so much talent, just could not bring it all together. UGA was scary, many of us here, myself included, had concerns about the season and rightfully so. Team seems to have a swag, confidence, moxie, that they had been missing for a long time.
Go Tigers!!
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Mascot [28]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 6:07 PM
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I guess it’s called having an Offense and not putting all the pressure on the Defense. Been fun to watch.
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Athletic Dir [1139]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 1:40 PM
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I'll wait until the season ends !
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Orange Blooded [2137]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 8:35 AM
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I want to see them go to Blacksburg and win by two touchdowns. Win by 10. That's what a playoff team would do.
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Orange Blooded [2418]
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Kelly Bryant
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Oct 18, 2024, 8:38 AM
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like that guy's team
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 9:06 PM
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Let's beat UVA tomorrow. One game at a time. I'm not overlooking any team.
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 11:43 AM
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back to beating cupcake elementary basketball schools
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Solid Orange [1340]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 12:32 PM
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Tell it to Alabama, who beat Georgia and lost to Vandy.
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 1:35 PM
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and Vandy who lost to Georgia State.
With CLemson logic, that means that Georgia State is better than Bama, UGA, and CLemson.
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Campus Hero [13985]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 12:44 PM
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I was wondering....could you please tell me how on earth the SEC had a losing record to the high school teams of the ACC last season? TIA in advance
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 1:31 PM
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That's funny. You leave out a ton of details. Let me help you and you're welcome in advance...
The ACC only scheduled 2 games vs. the top 4 SEC teams in the regular 2023 season...the ACC lost both. This does not include UGA's bowl win over undefeated FSU 63-3 (that would make it 3-0 SEC). For anyone crowing about the ACC's record versus the SEC 2023 regular season, let's take a closer look at those games:
FSU over LSU
FSU over Florida
Kentucky over Louisville
Ole Miss over Georgia Tech
UGA over Georgia Tech
Clemson over South Carolina
North Carolina over South Carolina
Miami over Texas A&M
Tennessee over Virginia
Wake Forest over Vanderbilt
In total, the ACC was 6-4 versus the SEC this season. However, it makes the most sense to group these matchups into like teams versus like teams and unlike teams if you're going to try to honestly compare conferences, so let's do that.
Like Teams:
Top-4 vs Top-4 --- There were only two games pitting teams that both ended up a Top-4 team in their conference this season. The SEC was 2-0 in those games.
Second-4 vs Second-4 --- There were no games pitting teams that both ended up a Second-4 team in their conference this season.
Bottom-6 vs Bottom-6 --- There was only one game pitting teams that both ended up a Bottom-6 team in their conference this season. The ACC won that game.
Unlike Teams:
SEC Top-4 playing down --- There were no games in this category.
ACC Top-4 playing down --- There were three games pitting a Top-4 ACC team versus a lower SEC team. The ACC was 2-1 in those games.
SEC Second-4 playing down --- There were two games pitting a Second-4 SEC team versus a lower ACC team. The SEC was 1-1 in those games.
ACC Second-4 playing down --- There were two games pitting a Second-4 ACC team versus a lower SEC team. The ACC was 2-0 in those games.
So, based upon the randomness of the schedule and assuming a like conference would - on average - split like games and win unlike games in which they have the higher conference-ranked team at the end of the season, the ACC should have gone 7-3 against the SEC this season.
Additionally, the Top-8 SEC teams went 4-1 versus the ACC this season.
Meanwhile, the Top-8 ACC teams went 2-3 versus the SEC this season.
In fact, the only SEC-ACC game the ACC team won when they likely shouldn't have - based on the end-of-year results - is when Miami beat Texas A&M (who ended up firing their head coach this season).
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Dynasty Maker [3210]
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TL; DR did the ACC have a winning record against SEC last year or not?***
Oct 18, 2024, 9:03 PM
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 9:10 PM
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Way too much interpretation. Bottom line: head to head, the $EC did NOT dominate the ACC.
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Recruit [68]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 1:56 PM
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Notable teams Clemson has a harder SOS then
Penn State
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Miami
Iowa State
Mississippi state
Oklahoma state
Arizona state
Virginia Tech
1 spot behind Michigan
The narrative that we don’t play anyone has to stop. Power 4 football is power 4 football. It’s been “cupcake schedule” for 10 years and we’ve held our own against any “top dog” you wanna throw out there. It’s a weak excuse to overinflate the SEC rankings so that you can get 4 or 5 playoff teams in now. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard that 7 or 8 sec teams would win the acc or big12. It’s just simply untrue. I’d take your big three this year to win it Alabama Uga and Texas but beyond that put whoever else from your conference you want and they wouldn’t win it. The pac 12 and big 10 embarrassed the sec in the playoffs last year. The ones that got cherry picked ahead of fsu who was the more deserving team. (And I hate fsu) There is a gap in your best versus our best for sure. But the depth isn’t what you say it is. You have 3 contenders and the rest are fraudulent pretenders. They beat up radford women’s lacrosse college for the elderly and Mississippi technical college a&m for the deaf and blind for a couple weeks and all of a sudden the whole sec is top 25. It’s a joke and everyone but sec fans see it. It’s a weak crutch.
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 2:44 PM
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What idiot made this list? Someone who thinks that Auburn, Vandy, and MS St all have a weaker schedule than CLemson? I'll just take those SEC teams vs. today's ranked teams you listed...
Auburn plays Oklahoma, UGA, Missouri, Texas A&M, and Bama.
Vandy plays Missouri, Bama, Texas, LSU, Tenn
Miss State plays Texas, UGA, Texas A&M, Tenn, Missouri, Ole Miss
CLemson plays UGA and Pitt (ranked 20th for now)
The narrative that CLemson plays no one outside of their blowout loss to UGA is factually correct. Facts are not a "weak crutch" or a "joke and "everyone but SEC fans see it." In fact, CLemson has beaten no one but cupcakes since 34-3, and all of a sudden you think CLemson is elite?
I understand the SEC hatred (especially UGA) from CLemson fans though. Your team has a winning record against only ONE SEC team...South Carolina (historically the worst SEC team).
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 3:27 PM
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Also, so far in 2024 it's 4-2...
UGA blows out CLemson
Missouri beat BC
Vandy beat VT
Tenn blows out NCst
Miami blows out UF
Cal beat Auburn
Florida is the 5th worst SEC team and Auburn is the worst SEC team.
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Solid Orange [1386]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 4:49 PM
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So should Clemson be ranked at 10? Should Iowa be there?
It is just my opinion perhaps, but the conferences need to go away and be replace with East south North west leagues and place teams on theirwin loss records insteads of this age old bickering about strength of schedule.
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Clemson Icon [27389]
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NC State is one of the worst ACC teams
Oct 18, 2024, 5:03 PM
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and BC is on the lower half but came close vs a ranked Mizzou. Since you wanted to add asterisks to the ACC wins, might as well add some to the SEC wins to
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Rival Killer [2882]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 3:35 PM
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And Oklahoma and Missouri suck... try again dawgturd
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 4:14 PM
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I listed teams that are ranked. If those two teams suck, look at your schedule. Reading is hard for some...
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Letterman [174]
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Why are you here..?
Oct 18, 2024, 4:19 PM
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Hurt people...hurt people.
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110%er [3720]
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Re: Why are you here..?
Oct 18, 2024, 4:57 PM
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It took far longer to get to "why are you here" than I expected. I knew someone would eventually change the narrative.
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: Why are you here..?
Oct 18, 2024, 5:11 PM
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That is their go to when they have lost another argument.
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110%er [3720]
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Re: Why are you here..?
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Oct 18, 2024, 5:13 PM
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Something about graduation rates or arrests won't be far behind.
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Dynasty Maker [3210]
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I mean, I think we can just compare natty trophies, no?***
Oct 18, 2024, 9:05 PM
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Offensive Star [340]
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Re: I mean, I think we can just compare natty trophies, no?***
Oct 19, 2024, 8:59 AM
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You mean UGA with 4, CLemson with 3? Don’t forget UGA plays in the SEC and the probation after the 81 season.
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 12:42 PM
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I want to believe, but not sure I will be fully convinced until we get through the next 4 games unscathed...
Message was edited by: slwcu79®
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Athletic Dir [1126]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 12:53 PM
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I appreciate the props when someone says we're "back'. Even though we have been part of the discussion for over 10 years now. "back" in this context would mean back in contention. And that's a good thing no matter where it comes from.
I do take issue with talking heads saying, "when will so-and-so be back?" Tennessee and Nebraska come to mind. Why do these teams need to be "back"? Texas was another one. Notre Dame always is. I recall one panel that was actually discussing Tenn and Nebraska about 5-10 years ago. Finally, one analyst says, "They're not relevant. Why are we talking about them? When they're relevant again, we'll talk about them." Amen.
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Dynasty Maker [3427]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 1:37 PM
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pffft...I don't care what any Disney talking head says.
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CU Medallion [19082]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 1:52 PM
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I will listen to Mickey...
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Ring of Honor [23085]
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We need to make the playoffs before this makes sense.***
Oct 18, 2024, 1:54 PM
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All-Time Great [97814]
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We will and I expect to win it all.
Oct 18, 2024, 5:07 PM
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My confidence in this team is soaring right now. All we really needed was a QB. IDK why people can't see that our receivers never expected to get the ball when DJ was behind center. He stared at his primary from the snap all the way through their routes then either tripped over his on feet, juke himself off his feet or dumped the ball to his outlet guy.
Why do you guys think FSU in in the gutter this season?
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Ring of Honor [23085]
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I need to see us beat a team with a winning record before I feel justified to be
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Oct 18, 2024, 8:37 PM
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confident we are elite.
This team got murdered by the only good team we played.
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CU Medallion [19704]
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Clemson "is back" like .
Oct 18, 2024, 3:32 PM
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Yes, I realize this is a very dated reference.
Don’t care.
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Rival Killer [2882]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 3:32 PM
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Back? Like playoff back? We have alot more football to play with the more difficult part of the schedule left. I'm not buying my playoff tickets yet.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Agreed. All of us old timers remember the really down years when we had losing records and went years without a bowl game. Now winning 9-10 games and getting a bowl win constitutes a down year lasting maybe a couple of years. I can live with that.
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Asst Coach [886]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
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Oct 18, 2024, 4:40 PM
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It’s a nice problem to have.
Clemson has become a brand name and become a football program that is held to a certain “standard.”
Easy opportunity to realize how lucky we are as fans. A lot of other schools fans would love to be in the situation that Clemson is.
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Clemson Icon [27389]
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yes. Quite different than Miami, Nebraska or Texas
Oct 18, 2024, 4:42 PM
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which has been down for at least a deacde. Multiple decades in the case of Miami and Nebraska
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Top TigerNet [28015]
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Re: Clemson "is back"
Oct 18, 2024, 6:03 PM
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We won't be back...
Until we get put on "upset alert "
🙄🙄🙄
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Top TigerNet [28015]
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Bump for Saturday crowd...***
Oct 19, 2024, 9:45 AM
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