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Trainer [-47]
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So this draft is indicative of a decline huh?
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Apr 25, 2025, 1:41 PM
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Three Clemson players were drafted in 2018.
Dorian O'Daniel in the 3rd, Deon and Ray Ray in the 6th. Then the 2018 team ran roughshod through the college football playoff. I guess that 2018 draft was also indicative of Clemson football between 2014 to 2017.
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TigerNet Immortal [171843]
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Nice first post
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:07 PM
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COOT!! 
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Tiger Titan [50637]
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No, not just this draft.
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:09 PM
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The recent trend.
If you can’t see that we have less elite talent than we used to, I don’t know what to tell you.
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TigerNet Immortal [171843]
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and still winning the ACC and making the playoffs. Must be coaching.***
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:11 PM
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Heisman Winner [78094]
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Re: and still winning the ACC and making the playoffs. Must be coaching.
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:20 PM
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they did but it was less talented that ACC Conf winning teams of before. Only got in because there were 12 spots and name recognition. Like UNC did in hoops this year- lefetime achievement award
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Orange Elite [5494]
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Thats silly. SMU was also a playoff team.
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:19 PM
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Out SOS was 22nd and we finished 14th in the final AP poll. It was very successful season.
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Paw Master [16574]
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Yeah but we didn't in every game by a bazillion...
Apr 25, 2025, 3:24 PM
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...and that's what we're entitled to.
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TigerNet Immortal [171843]
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Tiger Titan [50637]
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Our best win this year was SMU.
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:03 PM
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Who was SMU’s best win?
Look, winning your conference is always a good accomplishment. But let’s stop touting an ACC championship, which resulted in an automatic bid to the playoffs, as some sort of high-level accomplishment when comparing ourselves to elite programs, which are among the best in college football (and not surprisingly, had multiple round one draft picks last night).
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Trainer [-47]
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Re: Our best win this year was SMU.
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:13 PM
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In your mind a conference championship isn't a high level accomplishment, but your boy can't even win one of those.
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Orange Elite [5494]
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ACC basketballs was a MEATGRINDER this year!
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:15 PM
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As evidenced by the 5th rated basketball league and pitiful results in the two tournaments.
The Clemson football schedule was also considerably higher ranked than basketball.
If we can’t win the league in year 15 when the league was in the worst shape in history, when can we do it?
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Orange Elite [5494]
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Clemson football did considerably better than Clemson basketball.
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:13 PM
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Each coach here about 15 years.
Why has Dabo outperformed Brad every year but one over the last 15 years??
How long do we have to wait to actually not go backwards after a modicum of high level success?
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Heisman Winner [78094]
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Re: Clemson football did considerably better than Clemson basketball.
Apr 25, 2025, 3:18 PM
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the stature and draw of these two sports is comparing apples and oranges. Hoops can seldom fill LJ regardless of team. Football tix are always scarce. Reputations and name regognition are about the same
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Orange Elite [5494]
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We have solid basketball attendance and fan support. The program is extremely
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:25 PM
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well-funded.
Football (and stature) rules most everywhere.
We played the 22nd hardest football schedule and finished 14th.
We played the 57th hardest schedule in college basketball and finished 22nd.
Now how does national popularity and attendance affect that?
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TigerNet Elite [69739]
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You should as He!! would be touting and ACC Championship...
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Apr 25, 2025, 4:01 PM
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if CBB could EVER manage to win one, even if the ACC was widely regarded as a weak basketball conference, so spare us your hypocrisy and self righteous indignation.
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TigerNet Elite [69739]
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"sure"***
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Apr 25, 2025, 4:03 PM
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Re: No, not just this draft.
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:11 PM
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If you can't see that we have more elite talent in 2025 than in the previous few years, I don't know what to tell you.
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Trainer [-47]
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Re: No, not just this draft.
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:33 PM
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You mean at least one 1st round pick 10 out of the last 12 drafts, and 17 1st round picks overall during that time span? The only other year we were off was the 2022 draft.
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Orange Elite [5494]
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As usual you are full of crap.
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:11 PM
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Over the last 5 years Clemson is 7th in the amount of players placed in the NFL. To listen to your trolling nonsense we’re not actually in the top 6 of wins the last 5 years.
Maybe you should do a little research before your next BS troll post?
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National Champion [7836]
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That Clemson Defense went to 3 out of 4 consecutive National Championships
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:15 PM
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this Clemson Defense got a charity CFP bid in the 12 team format ... basically the everyone gets a trophy CFP
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Hall of Famer [8311]
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Re: That Clemson Defense went to 3 out of 4 consecutive National Championships
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:20 PM
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Did you miss the point about draft picks?
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Trainer [-47]
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He missed it
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:27 PM
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And he missed that Coach Swinney went out and hired one of the top DC's in all of college football.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft 1st Round was when the 2018 Natty team was drafted
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:46 PM
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You are still missing the point. Just because we had a "bad draft class" in 2018 doesn't mean the 2018 team was bad.
Same as the fact that we currently have a "bad draft class" doesn't mean that the 2025 team isn't loaded.
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National Champion [7836]
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you are missing my point (that was covered in the start) :)
Apr 25, 2025, 2:48 PM
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we don't have a team that is nearly as good this year.
That 2018 team had multiple 4 team CFP experience and National Title experience
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National Champion [7836]
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and no one on this team has even sniffed a 4 team playoff or the title game***
Apr 25, 2025, 2:51 PM
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Trainer [-47]
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Re: and no one on this team has even sniffed a 4 team playoff or the title game***
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:52 PM
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No one on the 2015 team did either.
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National Champion [7836]
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very true . maybe we;re on the verge of a second dynasty***
Apr 25, 2025, 3:03 PM
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Hall of Famer [8311]
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Re: very true . maybe we;re on the verge of a second dynasty***
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Apr 25, 2025, 3:11 PM
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Nowwww you are starting to get it
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Orange Elite [5494]
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft 1st Round was when the 2018 Natty team was drafted
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Apr 25, 2025, 2:52 PM
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Yep it means they all came back.
At the Clemson pro day this past March, this is what Dabo said to the media.
"The best thing about Pro Day is we've got very few guys working out (then with a big grin) cause they all back playing for the Tigers".
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Orange Phenom [14527]
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This draft is further evidence of the SEC and B1G acquiring the vast majority
Apr 25, 2025, 4:30 PM
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of elite players and pulling further and further away from the rest of college football as a whole.
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Orange Blooded [2267]
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Re: So this draft is indicative of a decline huh?
Apr 25, 2025, 4:36 PM
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UMMM no.
It simply means we return the most production of any team in the country.
Next year we'll see a few tigers move on to the NFL.
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