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Clemson Fans Do Not Fall In Love With A Coach
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Oct 27, 2025, 3:37 PM
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Who is well compensated to compete for natties every year. That future compensation brings with it an expectation of maintaining an elite team. If the elite team is not maintained , then it's time to demand major changes be made. If Dabo refuses to make the changes, then the AD makes them by replacing Dabo and all of his family and friends.
Don't ever fall in love with a coach. Love the University and the team. Not the coach. Coaches come and go. It's a part of the coaching profession. It always boils down to "What have you done for me lately". Dabo has been given generational wealth by Clemson for his past coaching success. He and his future children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are financially set for life. The FB PROGRAM IS NOT SET TO MAINTAIN AN ELITE STATUS FOR LIFE.
GET OVER YOUR LOVE AFFAIR WITH DABO. I LOVE CLEMSON, NOT DABO OR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL.
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Re: Clemson Fans Do Not Fall In Love With A Coach
Oct 27, 2025, 3:46 PM
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Its not going to be elite year in and year out anymore in this NIL era no matter who the coach is. The money just isnt there like it is with these larger schools. But on the positive side is that playing in the ACC is a big advantage to at least be playoff contenders.
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Oct 27, 2025, 3:47 PM
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Re: Clemson Fans Do Not Fall In Love With A Coach
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Oct 27, 2025, 3:50 PM
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Great, how much NIL money have you donated?
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Re: Clemson Fans Do Not Fall In Love With A Coach
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Oct 27, 2025, 3:58 PM
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Disagree - there's been at least 3 coaches that Clemson fans have "fallen in love with".
First off - The Bashful Baron of Barlow Bend himself, Frank Howard. He personified Clemson for decades. A legendary personality who brought some really successful years, some mediocre years, but always brought humor and tough football teams, not to mention a rock/doorstop from Death Valley CA.
Next up - Danny Ford. Again, the personality matched Clemson to a T, and the winning tough-nosed football made him legendary and well loved by the fanbase (if not always by the administration).
And then came Dabo - a great person, terrific backstory, again a great cultural fit for Clemson. "The rant" started Clemson fans' love for the coach; continued winning and terrific communication skills (BYOG, All In, etc.) increased it, and two national titles sealed it.
I agree that the enormous compensation that coaches receive these days definitely tamps down a lot of the slack that you'd normally give them during rough times. Danny had some off years. Howard certainly did. I'm going to continue to pull for Coach Swinney and the Tigers as long as he stays the head man. I think there are few that have represented Clemson as well as him.
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Re: Clemson Fans Do Not Fall In Love With A Coach
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Oct 27, 2025, 4:09 PM
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You couldn't before off the mark here. Ask Florida if they would rather have handled the Spurrier situation differently. The Lamecoots have fired coaches on average every five years and look what that has gotten them. Alabama was in the wilderness through how many coaches before they happened upon Saban. Tennessee still hasn't fully recovered after Fulmer. My love for the university is certainly greater than any coach but regardless of what this year holds and the crazy moves some schools are making dumping a proven coach is not to be taken lightly.
Make changes to coaching staff but it is a rare thing to find a coach who fits a school like Dabo does. If he continues after this year not making adjustments it gets harder to keep him but history has proven he will make necessary changes to get us more competitive again.
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Re: Clemson Fans Do Not Fall In Love With A Coach
Oct 27, 2025, 4:22 PM
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AGREE
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I am sorry that you have not been able to find love.
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Oct 27, 2025, 4:14 PM
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Yes, modern Col. FB - a purely transactional relationship.
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Oct 27, 2025, 5:03 PM
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That's what the whole "losing the flame" thread is about. Fans...even die-hard lifers...are wondering what the point is? You say we should feel no devotion or affection for our sports teams' coaches...that they are highly compensated professionals who come and go. Okay.
Then of course the players are in the same boat...if a head coach who has been at the University for 22 years, and lead the program as HC for 16, should be looked at as no more than the man compensated to win championships, surely any one player...compensated also to win games and with a shelf life of at best five or six years (four of which we would get to see) but that also has committed no more than a season...no...less...a player that will hardly suffer a consequence for shutting down a disappointing year after four games to preserve a red shirt for his next school or skip the bowl game if it isn't a playoff (or even if it is, he can skip it if the NFL Draft is looming). We certainly shouldn't fall in love with them, right?
Now...you say you love Clemson, but how is that not the same transactional relationship? Dabo hasn't adjusted pricing to optimize the revenue stream, leveraging fan loyalty to maximize return based on studies of how much fans will pay before they lose too many ticket sales. Dabo didn't set-up a seat licensing structure to ensure that big money can come in and take away better seats from life-long donors. The school did that. Because the school doesn't value life-long fans, they value money. The school treated their fans like cash pinatas to beat until they get as much money as they can. So...that too is a transactional relationship, right? At least for them.
That's it. That's where we are in 2025. Every component of college football is a transactional relationship.
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