Re: CLEMSON 5th MOST TALENTED TEAM IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Congrats Tigers on showing some fight against a tough Texas team. I don't think anyone in CFB can deny the success that Dabo has had over the years, and he will go down in history as one of the best CFB coaches in the game.

With that said, I have seen a lot of bellyaching over the past few years with many attributing the slight dip to a lack of talent. Per the 2024 Talent Composite Rankings, CU is the 5th most talented team in CFB. On the surface talent acquisition does not appear to be an issue at Clemson with the majority of your roster being top level talent.

I'm just curious, why are so many people stating that CU does not have the talent to be successful?

https://247sports.com/Season/2024-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

1 Alabama
82 Commits
17 5 Stars
50 4 Stars
15 3 Stars

2 Georgia
85 Commits
14 5 Stars
55 4 Stars
16 3 Stars

3 Ohio State
81 Commits
14 5 Stars
55 4 Stars
11 3 Stars

4 Texas
81 Commits
11 5 Stars
50 4 Stars
19 3 Stars

5 Clemson
82 Commits
7 5 Stars
45 4 Stars
30 3 Stars

6 Oregon
85 Commits
6 5 Stars
50 4 Stars
29 3 Stars

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Dec 23, 2024, 11:23 AM

1. Our first-string has talent as a whole. I will say that 247 only looks at pure numbers, it doesn't look at where those players are. If one team has 6 5 Stars, but they're all receivers, while another has 3 5 Stars at QB, RB, and Receiver, the latter team will be better. We do have some pretty clear gaps in talent at some positions. But overall, I do agree that talent isn't really our problem.

2. We have a serious lack of fundamentals and development which is a problem that stems from hiring position coaches who are unqualified. We can see the evidence there in what Luke did this year to the offensive line. They went from a bottom 25 offensive line to a top 30 offensive line in one season, and are the exact same players. The only thing that changed was that our in-house line coach was replaced with a real line coach.

3. While a lot of our first-stringers are blue chips, there is a huge drop off in talent between our first string and backups. Notice the stats you published. Alabama and UGA have 150% of the bluechip players we have. That doesn't impact first string depth, but it really impacts your backups. We lack quality depth, which can be seen in those games where our backups were put in in garbage time and then proceeded to get outplayed by backups at mediocre teams. It's very different from our peak where we could just plug and play players. I think that's both an issue in recruiting AND in that we struggled to win any games until this year, and so our backups have gotten very little playing experience.

But yes. It's much more a problem in coaching than in talent. Our positional coaches are often mediocre and if you compare ours with the other teams you flagged, it's a stark difference. And defensively, it goes up to Goodwin, who is so scared of allowing big plays, he refused to grasp the nuances of the defensive playcalling and actually play to our personnel's strength.

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