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Nov 1, 2024, 7:30 PM
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Note: I'm obviously rooting for Clemson to win the ACC. I want Miami to lose every game they play. I would prefer to see Clemson play SMU/Pitt winner in Charlotte. But, this post isn't about who I want to win. It's about creating maximum chaos.
Forgetting which teams you want to win, which teams you want to lose, based on who your favorite team or teams are.
I'm just trying to see what could happen that would cause the most chaos in the football season.
1. Chaos with deciding which two teams play in the conference championship game.
2. Chaos with deciding which 12 teams qualify for the playoffs.
Way too many games left for any sort of prediction. I'm just looking at what could happen to cause maximum chaos. (I've probably made some mistakes in looking at who plays who and what the possible end records will be, but here is a look at what I think is at least possible.
ACC (easiest of all)
Miami, Clemson and SMU all win out. 8-0 in conference.
SEC
aTm loses to TX
Winner of UGA/TN wins out.
LSU wins out
That would leave 4 teams with one loss (aTm, TX, LSU and UGA/TN)
B1G
IU loses to OH ST (both have 1 loss)
Oregon loses 1 game (would be an upset)
Penn St loses to OH ST
That would leave 4 teams with one loss. Even if Oregon wins out, that would leave a 3 way tie to see who plays Oregon.
Big 12
BYU loses 1 game (would be an upset)
IA ST loses to KS ST (both would have 1 loss)
Colorado wins out.
4 teams with one loss. Even if BYU wins out, that would still leave 3 teams in a tie to see who plays BYU.
That is 15 teams. 4 would win their conference. The other 11 would be yelling they deserve one of the 7 at large bids. (And, that wouldn't even include the SEC teams with 2 or 3 losses.)
Hey, since FSU stinks, I can root for chaos can't I?
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Dynasty Maker [3496]
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Re: Chaos Calculator
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Nov 1, 2024, 7:50 PM
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That would be insane/entertaining. Some version of some of that WILL happen though, with the most likely being Clemson/SMU/Miami going 8-0 in conference. I could be wrong, but I’m not sure Pitt can beat SMU. I’ve only seen one SMU game, but they look like a fast overall team. Didn’t seem to be lacking speed anywhere.
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All-In [10397]
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Re: Chaos Calculator
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Nov 1, 2024, 8:15 PM
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Yeah, these mega conferences with 16 or more members and no divisions is not going to last. I give it 2 years at the most before total reorganization.
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All-TigerNet [6034]
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And then all the conferences say, "Hmm, maybe we should bring back divisions."
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Nov 1, 2024, 8:23 PM
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Or, more likely, Sankey and Petitti say,....
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Nov 1, 2024, 8:36 PM
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.... There is no way to have a legitimate playoff in the current configuration of college football. So for the good of the game we will select 56 teams
1. 8 Divisions of 7 teams each.
2. Each team plays every team in their division every year. (6 games)
3. Each team plays 6 more teams from one of the other divisions every year, but not the same six teams every year. (6 games)
4. At the end of the season there will be a 16 team playoff. (We'll figure out how those 16 teams are chosen later.)
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Paw Warrior [4751]
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Re: Or, more likely, Sankey and Petitti say,....
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Nov 1, 2024, 9:11 PM
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Bret,
Please allow me to make 2 unrelated points:
1. When I taught Government, Psychology, History, Human Geography, I taught my kids that when any entity wants to do something for bad, selfish, damaging reasons, they always find a way to pit a bright face on it - to disguise their true intent.
2. In your scenario, teams may play 16 games in a season. That is just TOO many for kids this age and physical development. This exploitation of youngsters is being overlooked in EVERY single possible scenario going forward. And this is the most obvious of the profiteering schemes being promoted by old men who stand to profit greatly by putting these kids at risk.
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Ring of Honor [22931]
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Re: Or, more likely, Sankey and Petitti say,....
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Nov 1, 2024, 9:22 PM
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Not really, there are a lot of 6, 7 and 8 year players out there. LMAO.
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Clemson Icon [27770]
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I didn't say I liked my proposal. I agree with you...
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Nov 1, 2024, 10:02 PM
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.... 16 games is too many. But, in my opinion, 15 is too many as well.
If somebody dies and made me king I would use the scenario I proposed (8 divisions, 56 teams). But, I would have a 10 game regular season with 2 byes so the season was 12 weeks long. Then, I would have a 16 team playoff. The playoff would start before Thanksgiving and would end on New Years Day.
But, nobody is gonna die and make me king, or appoint me as grand exalted emperor.
And, the guys who are making the decisions have the priority of maximizing revenue. Player safety is only slightly higher than academics in their list.
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Paw Warrior [4751]
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Re: And then all the conferences say, "Hmm, maybe we should bring back divisions."
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Nov 1, 2024, 9:03 PM
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I want to remind everyone that with divisions, it was very possible for the 2nd place team in a division to have a clearly better team (& record) than the winner of the other division and get left out of the championship game.
In fact, maybe someone could help me with the number of times that this actually happened. That was why we got rid of divisions in the first place.
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Paw Warrior [4751]
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Nov 1, 2024, 8:59 PM
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Bret,
Sorry to introduce ANY organization to your chaos dream, but
in the BIG - there would be head-to-head losses: Indiana & Penn State to OSU, OSU to Oregon
In this case, OSU becomes the clear challenger to Oregon (barring any upset)
in the Big 12 - there would be head-to-head losses: Colorado & ISU to KSU, KSU to BYU
In this case KSU is the clear challenger to BYU (barring any upset)
in the SEC - there would be head-to-head losses: aTm to Texas, Texas to Georgia, Georgia or Tenn ??
Actually, this seems to be even more chaotic,
but they will look at conference opponents winning % (SOS)
in the ACC - no head-to-head losses: they too will look at conference opponents winning % (SOS)
Barring a really outrageous beat down in any of the championship games, I would afford the 2nd place conference teams (championship game loser) a place in the CFP above the teams that got shut out of their conference championship games in the above scenarios.
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