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Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
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Game Day Hero [4197]
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Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
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Sep 5, 2024, 10:52 AM
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How does this work without an official “draft or trade” period in college football? Just wondering.
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Top TigerNet [32629]
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you are supposed to signup for the portal and then start entertaining
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Sep 5, 2024, 10:54 AM
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calls from other schools.
everything is possible. so they could be following the rules but not bloody likely.
they all have agents now and know what is on the table before they declare.
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Rival Killer [2909]
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There is no such thing as tampering.
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Sep 5, 2024, 10:55 AM
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That is an obsolete term, from a bogus ruke that was used to illegally restrict interstate trade.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99910]
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Re: There is no such thing as tampering.
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Sep 5, 2024, 10:58 AM
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Rival Killer [2630]
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Tampering
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Sep 5, 2024, 11:00 AM
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13.1.1.3 Four-Year College Prospective Student-Athletes. An athletics staff member or other representative of the institution's athletics interests shall not make contact with the student-athlete of another NCAA Division I institution, directly or indirectly, without first obtaining authorization through the notification of transfer process. Before making contact, directly or indirectly, with a student-athlete of an NCAA Division II or Division III institution, or an NAIA four-year collegiate institution, an athletics staff member or other representative of the institution's athletics interests shall comply with the rule of the applicable division or the NAIA rule for making contact with a student-athlete. [See Bylaw 19.1.2-(f).] (Revised: 1/10/91, 1/16/93, 1/11/94, 4/26/01, 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 10/30/14, 8/8/18 effective 10/15/18)
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Paw Warrior [4989]
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Re: Tampering
Sep 5, 2024, 11:13 AM
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They all have agents now, so you can’t contact their agent either? Not sure they can stop that!
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Rival Killer [2909]
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That rule is a violation of federal law, just like...
Sep 5, 2024, 11:16 AM
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Their old ones against transfer limits or NIL $$.
It's a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act and the Sherman Antitrust Act.
"The NCAA is not above the law".
SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh
NCAA vs Alston
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Sep 5, 2024, 12:10 PM
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Re: Tampering
Sep 5, 2024, 5:52 PM
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It’s written down so it’s obviously obeyed like all other ncaa rules.
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Rival Killer [2909]
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That rule is a violation of federal law.
Sep 5, 2024, 11:19 AM
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That's why the NCAA can't enforce it.
They have lost every court case and injunction action a out their illegal rules.
They and their member institutions are on the hook for billions of $$ in the House case settlement alone. That includes Clemson, BTW.
Does anyone REALLY think that the NCAA is in a hurry to get bent over in court again - trying to enforce another one of their illegal rules?
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Ring of Honor [23484]
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What federal law prohibits the NCAA from regulating contact between
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Sep 5, 2024, 11:50 AM
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schools and players?
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Ring of Honor [23484]
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I was really asking.***
Sep 6, 2024, 8:19 AM
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Re: That rule is a violation of federal law.
Sep 5, 2024, 11:55 AM
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Let Dabo tamper and see how fast the NCAA files sanctions. To add insult to injury, the ACC will tack on a year.
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Rival Killer [2865]
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Re: There is no such thing as tampering.
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Sep 5, 2024, 12:43 PM
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Where do you get this notion that there is no such thing as tampering? It's tampering if a coach or anyone from another school contacts a player while he's still on the active roster of a team.
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No - you can't. I'm sure there's the occasional exception.***
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Sep 5, 2024, 10:57 AM
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Rival Killer [2909]
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It can't happen without it.
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Sep 5, 2024, 10:57 AM
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A 134 team draft won't work.
Too many teams, in too many locations, no antitrust exemption, military academies couldn't draft players...
It's not going to happen.
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marlborocountycoot = cutigerinflorida = bluffton orange man
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Great win over ODU
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Rival Killer [2909]
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You worship Dawn Staley.******
Sep 5, 2024, 11:20 AM
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Campus Hero [13385]
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Would be very difficult - in most cases there are discussions with the player,
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Sep 5, 2024, 11:01 AM
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or the player's agent, before the free agency window opens. And this is tampering.
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Re: Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
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Sep 5, 2024, 11:08 AM
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There are ways to get around the rules, and ways to avoid being caught. "If you're not cheating, you're not trying." It's not like Clemson never broke any rules before NIL and the portal. Star players have always gotten paid, one way or another.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Re: Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
Sep 5, 2024, 6:16 PM
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Absolutely. Remember the Michigan lineman we recruited hard but lost. Dabo got his momma a birthday cake and such. She made it clear someone at Clemson, perhaps just a booster(?), offered them a lot of money. And that was way pre-NIL and a HS recruit. And where did the Florida RB kid (Bellamy I think) that didn’t work out get that huge roll of cash he put up on social media…after committing to us? Maybe that was all unbeknownst to Dabo?…Doubtful, I love Dabo but he came up through the Bama football machine and had to learn how Bama did it. Danny and Charlie were both Bama football machine graduates. They knew how Bama operated and brought that to Clemson. Saban had the Dodge Charger program. It’s sad but you play the game or get left behind both in pre-NIL days and in this NIL day and age it seems. I support Dabo but have my serious doubts he is the perfection of morality many believe. He has gotten progressively more arrogant and stubborn, but having said all that he has been our best coach ever. He has earned some latitude to figure this new landscape out. Let’s face it it is a landscape that is likely to change drastically at some point. I’m glad he cares about players and graduates them. I’m glad he is our coach.
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Re: Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
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Sep 5, 2024, 11:12 AM
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Good point. My opinion is that it doesn’t. Tampering is out of control, and difficult to do anything about.
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They should be designated as employees once they begin receiving revenue
Sep 5, 2024, 11:15 AM
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directly from the schools, which is next year. I say should, but the power brokers of the sport are trying to double down on the "college" football farce and get exemption from that. Even though, again, the players will be receiving payments directly from the Universities for playing football. Not employees? I mean that's just absurd.
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Rival Killer [2909]
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Not employees? Depends.
Sep 5, 2024, 11:21 AM
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The athletes could be classes as contractors.
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Re: Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
Sep 5, 2024, 11:19 AM
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The transfers that get a lot of buzz when they transfer were all presented a deal before they were in the portal.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [98436]
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Excellent question, Rev.***
Sep 5, 2024, 11:22 AM
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Orange Beast [6285]
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Re: Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
Sep 5, 2024, 11:54 AM
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There have been two linemen that Dabo tried to get that went elsewhere. I believe one went to Michigan and the other to Ga Tech. These were players that announced for the portal and did not have an OBVIOUS destination. I have no idea what the specifics were with the two players and why they chose their new schools.
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Re: Can you actually get top transfer prospects without tampering?
Sep 5, 2024, 12:48 PM
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I don't think you can truly ever know for sure...
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