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Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 5:56 PM
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and just agree on two things:
1. Our basketball coach sucks.
2. We’re stuck with him forever.
At least we have football and baseball.
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 6:16 PM
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How does he sock when he tied the best post season in the history of Clemson Basketball last season, followed up with the most wins in the regular season in program history?
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 6:23 PM
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a) Fluke aka "That's just basketball." (We have 15 years of data to base it on)
2) the ACC was trash this year
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 6:32 PM
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Since all years are equal, how do you think coach k would have fared in the ACC starting andre young, tanner smith, bryan narcisse, milton jennings, and devin booker?
Keep in mind, he had 8 players on his roster that year that played in the nba. He didn't win the regular season or tourney.
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I've always said Brownell and Coach K are comparable.
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Mar 24, 2025, 6:36 PM
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I mean, it's obvious. Heck, you can even compare Brad to Dabo. He shines.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 26, 2025, 11:13 AM
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Trashing players is like catnip for the Brownell Bros. I’ve never understood this disconnect in your presentation. You’re the real fans that understand better than all of us what Clemson basketball is all about. You’re the better fans. The rest of us are garbage. And Milton Jennings is a bag of crap we should all #### on. The players on the roster from 2010-12 exist in a vacuum. Uncoachable. Teleported to Clemson from some negative zone of basketball retards and there was simply nothing any coach could have possibly done with them. But the coach was also beholden to keep them around, start them, not replace them through recruiting or transfers so that some unhinged TNet accounts could forever cast aspersions at them. Of course, this coach (who has no responsibility for their lack of development) has lost to the 109, 101, 127, 124, 234, 269, 165, and 315 ranked NET teams during the peak of his tenure. If his best teams lose games like these what hope did such a group of absolute trash monsters?
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 6:51 PM
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Not trying to defend BB, because he is an average coach at best, but Dabo has padded his wins for years against a cupcake ACC schedule and nobody seems to mind.
Brad got to do the same this year and people are saying “Yeah, but his schedule was easy.”
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Troohy case says "Hi", genius.***
Mar 24, 2025, 6:56 PM
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Dabo's National Championships are only because those were the weakest Bama teams
Mar 24, 2025, 9:08 PM
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ever.
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Re: Dabo's National Championships are only because those were the weakest Bama teams
Mar 25, 2025, 12:02 AM
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I really hope you were being sarcastic about those bama teams being some of their worst. Any half way self aware football fan is gonna laugh you out of that argument immediately.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 7:07 PM
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Higher percentage of the football playoffs were made of ACC teams than basketball. It was a down year for the league in basketball.
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Agreed.
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Mar 24, 2025, 8:18 PM
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This team would be no better than 7-7 in the old school ACC.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 6:34 PM
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He is an excellent coach. He just sucks at one thing. Getting his teams to play with confidence/swagger/heart when it really matters. And it’s painful. Fix that and we would be in the sweet 16. No fire and it shows.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 6:45 PM
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He made the Elite 8 last season. How is that failing when it matters?
I posted this last season that there were only like 26 coaches who have gone to a Sweet Sixteen and an Elite 8 last season. Then he follows that up with another NCAAT and most wins in the regular season..
People are right Tignet is only about 10 percent of the fanbase opinions.
If the basketball program was that bad how come season ticket holder attendance and overall attendance in Littlejohn is going up each season especially the last three seasons?
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 6:46 PM
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Excuse me, gone to sweet sixteen and elite 8 in the last 8 years.
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Mar 24, 2025, 6:53 PM
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It’s not unreasonable for people to ask whether the Elite 8 run (after an embarrassing ACCT) was a sign of things to come or the anomaly.
How many post seasons would personally need to see before reasonably assuming it’s one vs the other
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 6:54 PM
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But that’s the thing that can’t be fixed. You either have it or you don’t. That kind of leadership is innate and can’t be taught. Dabo has it. Which is why it’s stupid to think of firing him when he backslides a little. He possesses a super rare ability that we aren’t going to luck into twice in a row. Brad clearly doesn’t have it. Of course he knows X’s and O’s. The worst d2 coach in America knows more about basketball than anyone on this board. But they’re missing intangibles. He’s not suddenly going to become the kind of guy kids run through walls for. We’ve ran the experiment long enough.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time***
Mar 24, 2025, 7:04 PM
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 7:15 PM
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But that’s the thing that can’t be fixed. You either have it or you don’t. That kind of leadership is innate and can’t be taught. Dabo has it. Which is why it’s stupid to think of firing him when he backslides a little. He possesses a super rare ability that we aren’t going to luck into twice in a row. Brad clearly doesn’t have it. Of course he knows X’s and O’s. The worst d2 coach in America knows more about basketball than anyone on this board. But they’re missing intangibles. He’s not suddenly going to become the kind of guy kids run through walls for. We’ve ran the experiment long enough.
So if you were the AD what would you do? and what would you do from the Negative PR that would hit after your decision?
Clemson, who has bad history in basketball, firing a coach who has just sent a coach to an Elite 8 last season, and followed that up with another NCAAT while having the most wins in the regular season in it's history? You think a 5 seed has never ever lost to a 12 seed before? You don't know NCAAT Basketball history if that is the case.
No other school is firing a coach who went to an Elite 8 last season, and followed that up with another NCAAT this season.
There is a reason why you are not the AD. I will say I am not totally satisfied but also realize you are stupid letting a coach go and just adding one year to his current contract. Again, Im sure the buyout is still going to be peanuts as it was last summer.
Coach is probably retiring in the next few years. Just let it play out and see what happens in the next couple of years.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 7:25 PM
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Unmitigated disaster! Just a year too late, what a #######! Clemson fan my butt. Anybody gonna promote an Omaha run this year? I’m game for that! Call your shot!
Go Tigers!
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 8:15 PM
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You’re making a moron out of yourself.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 9:21 PM
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By using your own words? Hmm
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CU Medallion [18269]
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 9:56 PM
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I have no what you’re taking about when you bring baseball into this. Stop trying so hard for attention.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
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Mar 24, 2025, 8:21 PM
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What backlash would there be from parting ways with a coach after 15 season? Neff has ###### up big time announcing extensions for Brownell before the end of the season. I don’t expect them to fire him but he absolutely should not be offered any extension or raises. It’s fine if we want to lumber along as “good enough” but we need to be able to get out if things rock bottom. I predicted this season would be bad but keeping Chase and exceptional use of the portal kept him afloat. If JZ can’t return, and I can find no indication that the NCAA is likely to make a call that will effect 25-26, then he’ll be replacing the most percent of talent since his losing season.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 9:22 PM
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By using your own word? Hmmm….
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 9:25 PM
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Thought you and Neff were tight, no? You said so. Yeah a while back , but you claimed it, disagree?
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 9:57 PM
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I never claimed that. Again, pathetic attention seeking. You’re irrelevant.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 10:09 PM
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Needs link of two? Will that shut your sorry butt up? For the record, you did. Google it. I know that is hard for you. Just a bet, I find evidence, will you leave forever? Hmm….
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 10:25 PM
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Gave a chance to be a man. Not shocked by your dodge. Again, you deny being tight with Neff? thought you were buds.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 10:47 PM
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30 year old account.
Never had an opinion about Barnes, Shyatt, or Purnell
Never had an opinion about Leggett or Lee
Never had an opinion about Tommy Bowden or Dabo Swinney
But one user argues consistently with Judge Keller about Brad Brownell and your account comes to life.
Supporters a user who sags this:
https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/i-think-we-should-give-him-the-rest-of-the-season.-18607288
But blasts me for saying the same thing.
Been a member of 30 years but the majority of your posts are directed at me or reference me.
It’s pathetic and should have been moderated ages ago
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 10:51 PM
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You got a substantial reply, ot just recycled crap without any of my posts? Yeah, kinda figured. Unmitigated disaster, right?
You are pathetic. Prove me wrong.
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Mar 25, 2025, 11:18 AM
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He can’t be an excellent coach and suck at getting his teams motivated to play when it counts . That makes no sense
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 24, 2025, 6:53 PM
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and just agree on two things:
1. Our basketball coach sucks.
2. We’re stuck with him forever.
At least we have football and baseball.
Go Tigers!!!
I think we can all agree we have a good coach and you are a delusional member of the LF.
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What data point suggests he is a good coach? Derrr 27 wins derrr***
Mar 24, 2025, 6:58 PM
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He doesnt suck hes just ridiculously average
Mar 24, 2025, 8:43 PM
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He’s benefiting from the worst ACC in decades if not ever
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OP has gone full cult
Mar 24, 2025, 9:31 PM
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You never go full cult, buddy
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Game Changer [1773]
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OP has gone full cult
Mar 24, 2025, 9:31 PM
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You never go full cult, buddy
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I can agree that CBB
Mar 25, 2025, 11:16 AM
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has feathered quite the nest for himself at Clemson.
I can't agree that he sucks.
I can also agree that Clemson basketball is calcified into an above-average program that will merely win at least more than half of its regular season games for at least the next six years.
I can't agree that CBB should be expected to deliver anything more than that. Despite his price point.
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Mar 25, 2025, 11:20 AM
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Yes despite all the desperation from the cultists to defend him , the results from 15 long years are proof positive he is not even an average coach .
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I don't think he sucks
Mar 25, 2025, 11:23 AM
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I just think he's chronically above average.
Most of Clemson Nation is fine with that.
I'm not.
But it's not going to change.
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Re: Can we all save each other a lot of time
Mar 25, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Many of you seem to think saying he sucks is taking it too far.
I get that, and I respect that.
But when you get all the way to the big stage, and then allow your team to not even show up… Then you suck.
I don’t know the Xs and Os of basketball.
But I honestly think I could have done a better job of getting a team to try hard. And I would’ve done it for way less than 3 Million.
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