Re: Can somebody splain to me why we are so in love with Israel?

Tony_elTigre · 2025-03-30T07:31:23.310Z

I always wandered why so many (esp pubs) love Israel. I’m no expert in foreign policy but what is the behind this? Is this the biblical stuff? And since we are now a transactional govt, what have they done for us? Have they even say thank you for what we do for them? I’m not sure what they have of value as a country, but whatever it is I think they should fork it over to us Personally I think Nutanyahoo is a crazy person …. Ohhhh I think I hit the bingos

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Jews in area by timeline

Israel is the only country in the world with a consistently growing Jewish population due to natural population increase. Jewish communities in the Diaspora feature a population declining or steady, with the exception of the Orthodox and Haredi Jewish communities around the world, whose members often shun birth control for religious reasons, who have experienced rapid population growth.[33] The growth of the Orthodox and Haredi sector has partly balanced out negative population growth amongst other Jewish denominations. Haredi women have 7.7 children on average while the average Israeli Jewish woman has over 3 children.[34]

When Israel was first established in 1948, it had the third-largest Jewish population in the world, after the United States and Soviet Union. In the 1970s, Israel surpassed the Soviet Union as having the second-largest Jewish population.[35] In 2003, the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics reported that Israel had surpassed the United States as the nation with the world's largest Jewish population. The report was contested by Professor Sergio Della Pergola of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Considered the greatest demographic expert on Jews, Della Pergola said it would take another three years to close the gap.[36] In January 2006, Della Pergola stated that Israel now had more Jews than the United States, and Tel Aviv had replaced New York as the metropolitan area with the largest Jewish population in the world,[37] while a major demographic study found that Israel's Jewish population surpassed that of the United States in 2008.[38] Due to the decline of Diaspora Jewry as a result of intermarriage and assimilation, along with the steady growth of the Israeli Jewish population, it has been speculated that within about 20 years,[when?] a majority of the world's Jews will live in Israel.[39] In March 2012, the Israeli Census Bureau of Statistics reported on behalf of Ynet has forecast that in 2019, Israel will be home to 6,940,000 Jews, 5.84 million which are non-Haredi Jews living in Israel, compared with 5.27 million in 2009. The number is expected to grow to anywhere between 6.09 million and 9.95 million by 2059, marking a 16%–89% increase with the 2011 population. The Bureau also forecasts that the ultra-Orthodox population will number 1.1 million people by 2019, compared with 750,000 in 2009. By 2059, the projected Haredi Jewish population is estimated to be between 2.73 million and 5.84 million, marking a 264%–686% increase. Thus the total projected Israeli Jewish population by 2059 is estimated to be between 8.82 million and 15.790 million.[40] In January 2014, it was reported by demographer Joseph Chamie that the projected population of Israeli Jews is expected to reach between 9.84 million by the year 2025 and 11.40 million by 2035.[41]

1st century estimate 2,500,000[42]
7th century estimate 300,000–400,000[43]
1800 estimate 6,700[44][45]
1880 estimate 24,000[44][45]
1915 estimate 87,500[44][45]
1931 estimate 174,000[44][45]
1936 estimate > 400,000[44][45]
1947 estimate 630,000[44][45]
1949 census 1,013,900[46]
1953 census 1,483,600[47]
1957 census 1,762,700[48]
1962 census 2,068,900[48]
1967 census 2,383,600[46]
1973 census 2,845,000[46]
1983 census 3,412,500[46]
1990 census 3,946,700[46]
1995 census 4,522,300[46]
2000 census 4,955,400[46]
2006 census 5,393,400[46]
2009 census 5,665,100
2010 census 5,802,000[49]
2017 census 6,556,000[50][51]

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World War I (1914–1918)
Name Date Location Deaths Responsible Party Victims Notes
Greek genocide[19][20][21][22] 1917–1922 Ottoman Empire 300,000–900,000 Young Turk government Greeks Reports detail massacres, deportations, individual killings, rapes, burning of entire Greek villages, destruction of Greek Orthodox churches and monasteries, drafts for "Labor Brigades", looting, terrorism and other atrocities.[23][24]
Assyrian genocide[25] 1914–1918 Ottoman Empire and Persia 250,000-275,000 Young Turk government and Kurdish tribes Assyrians Denied by the Turkish government.
Armenian genocide 1915–1917 Ottoman Empire 600,000-1,500,000 Young Turk government and Kurdish tribes Armenians The Armenians of the eastern regions of the empire were massacred. The Turkish government currently denies the genocide.[26][27][28] It is the second most publicised case of genocide after the Holocaust.[29]
Massacres in Eastern Anatolia 1914-1918 Eastern Anatolia 128,000-600,000[30] Russian Army and possibly Armenian irregulars Muslim population (Turks and Kurds) According to J. Rummel, 128,000-600,000 Muslim Turks and Kurds were killed (death toll includes death by famine and diseases) by Russian troops and possibly Armenian irregulars during World War I.[30]
Massacres in the Çoruh River valley 1916[31] Çoruh River valley 45,000[31] Cossack regiments Muslim population (Turks and Kurds) During WWI, Russian "General Liakhov, for instance 'accused the Muslims of treachery, and sent his Cossacks from Batum with orders to kill every native at sight, and burn every village and every mosque. And very efficiently had they performed their task, for as we passed up the Chorokh valley to Artvin not a single habitable dwelling or a single living creature did we see.'"[31]
Post-World War I (1919–1923)
Main article: List of massacres during the Greco-Turkish War (1919–22)
Name Date Location Deaths Responsible Party Victims Notes
Massacre in Marash 1920 Marash, Aleppo Vilayet 5,000–12,000 Turks Armenians [32][33][34]
Kahyaoğlu Farm Massacre [tr] June 11, 1920 Yeşiloba, Adana Vilayet 64+ to ~200 Armenians Turks Report which was given to Mustafa Kemal Pasha included 43 men, 21 women and tens of children. Other estimates are up to 200.[35]
Karadeniz massacre January 28–29, 1921 waters of the Black Sea 15 Kemalists/Committee of Union and Progress (disputed) Communist Party of Turkey Mustafa Suphi the founder of the Communist Party of Turkey and his 14 comrades were assassinated while they were being sent to Erzurum for trial[36]
Republic of Turkey (1923–present)
Name Date Location Deaths Responsible Party Victims Notes
Diyarbakir massacre 1925 Diyarbakir Province, Elazığ Province 15,200 (206 villages destroyed) Turkish security forces Kurds Part of Deportations of Kurds between 1916 and 1934.[37]
Zilan massacre July 1930 Van Province 5,000–15,000 Turkish security forces Kurds 5,000 women, children, and elderly people were reportedly killed[38]
1934 Thrace pogroms 21 June-4 July 1934 Thrace 1 Local people Jews Over 15,000 Jews had to flee from region[39]
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Can somebody splain to me why we are so in love with Israel?

Re: Can somebody splain to me why were so in love with Isreal?

AIPAC and their Congressional handlers...***