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Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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I'm not being facicous. Only team to beat Kentucky, Duke, unc. Beat the state of NC. All from a school with little history... although I don't weight that strong. I'd say it's because he's done more with a lower rated jimmy and joes.
Imho, he won't leave Clemson if we come close to matching. Think it's kinda like Dabo. Money's money, but he's had unprecedented admin support.
That said, storied programs like unc, Indiana, maybe ND, but I don't know any other big potential jobs.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Feb 10, 2025, 9:34 PM
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I'm sure we'll keep our legend.
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besides, he'd be starting over. Can you imagine how long it would take to
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becoming the winningest and losingest coach somewhere else?
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Re: besides, he'd be starting over. Can you imagine how long it would take to
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Feb 11, 2025, 10:09 AM
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becoming the winningest and losingest coach somewhere else?
Coach K and Dean Smith shares the same distinction at their respective schools.
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Re: besides, he'd be starting over. Can you imagine how long it would take to
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Feb 11, 2025, 12:01 PM
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and they have ACC championships and national championships to go with their wins and losses...
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Re: besides, he'd be starting over. Can you imagine how long it would take to
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Feb 11, 2025, 5:17 PM
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They also had 28 ACC championships and 7 national championships between them. They also had 80% winning records. Brad is a good coach, but it's a dumb comparison when his record is 60% wins and no championships.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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LOL! If the storied programs are willing to wait 15 long years and until their conference sucks for the turn around.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Feb 10, 2025, 9:50 PM
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LOL! If the storied programs are willing to wait 15 long years and until their conference sucks for the turn around.
I am sure a storied program does not have teash facilities and little financial support from the AD so there would only be a short wait to upgrade the roster
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Feb 10, 2025, 10:32 PM
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There is no proof that Brad's success would've been any better than it's been if he would've had all he wanted during his first years bc Clemson was the biggest program that he had ever been the HC at when he came to Clemson, and he is lucky that Clemson allowed him to stay long enough to gain the experience that he needed to have for coaching at a power 5 program. Brad actually got the experience he needed to coach at a power 5 program while working at Clemson, on the job training is what he got at Clemson. Clemson seems to have done that with a lot of our Head Coaches especially with Brownell and Dabo, some made it and some didn't!!!
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Feb 10, 2025, 10:48 PM
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Thank you AO52. If I had some of them award things, I'd pass them out. Well said.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Feb 11, 2025, 7:05 AM
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There is no proof that Brad's success would've been any better than it's been if he would have had all he would have wanted during his first years bc Clemson was the biggest program that he was the HC at when he came to Clemson, and he is lucky that Clemson allowed him to stay long enough to gain the experience that he didn't have coaching at a power 5 program. Brad actually got the experience he needed to coach at a power 5 program while working at Clemson, on the job training is what he got at Clemson. Clemson seems to have done that with a lot of our Head Coaches especially with Brownell and Dabo, some made it and some didn't!!!
Certainly Brad has gained experience but it’s not a coincidence our basketball fortunes greatly improved once LJ was rebuilt and Neff became AD. To believe that facilities, staff and NIL funding don’t matter is the most LF view I have seen lately.
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These are the same people who think that Dabo bootstrapped it to be successful
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Feb 11, 2025, 9:24 AM
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at Clemson with all sorts of disadvantages. They fail to acknowledge that our football program didn’t become super successful until new facilities were built/announced and the AD gave him more money for better assistants.
Support matters a lot. In fact, it’s essential, even for legends like Dabo to be successful.
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Tell us about the pep band again.***
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Feb 11, 2025, 4:58 PM
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Honestly, I think that Dabo is a very intelligent individual and with his intelligence he could have been successful with anything that he loves doing as much as he loves coaching and being a mentor for young men because that is what makes him happy!!!
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Feb 11, 2025, 10:55 AM
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Funny. You used to complain that the LJ renovation was lipstick on a pig. Happy to see you change your tune now that you believe it might be a factor in Brad's improved fortunes.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Feb 11, 2025, 5:11 PM
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Brad's improved fortunes is mainly bc of the patients that the Clemson AD's has had with him. Most Division 1 schools would have let Brad go a long time ago...
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Brad's improved fortunes is mainly bc of portaling in players coached by someone
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Feb 11, 2025, 6:49 PM
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else.
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Brad's recent turn towards success has as much to do with having
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Feb 11, 2025, 10:52 AM
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instant eligibility from transfers than anything else out there. He hasn't exactly killed it with development and retention of his HS classes in general over the years. By the time a transfer became eligible in the past, we would lose someone similar in our pipeline and pretty much stay stuck in neutral from season to season. With today's plug and play environment and instant availability, losing or missing on HS recruits doesn't carry the same negative impact, especially with such a small roster that basketball commands. The rules changing as they have really fell into Brad's wheelhouse and we are all the better for it.
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Feb 13, 2025, 1:41 PM
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I actually disagree. BB has taken full advantage of the portal/NIL. If they never changed transfer rules I think BB is fired by now. So I now look at Brad differently because he’s shown the ability to find quality talent in the portal and attract that talent to Clemson.
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ND just hired their coach, Indiana won’t even look at Brad and unc who knows. Best bet is he is staying put here in Clemson.
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Yeah, but I didn't know how patient they'd be. But you're right. I'm not up on all the big schools coaches on hot seat.
I kinda disagree with Indiana since he's from there. I agree unc probably wouldn't hire another conference team coach. Guess my point was two-fold, unc will fire Davis unless he pulls out a miracle.
2nd point, teams seem to love hiring th hot hand and he's hot as ever. Plus they're seeing what he has potential to do with resources and 3 star talent.
Thanks for replying. A lot of posters don't like what I say, and I'll admit I don't know bball like other sports. At least not since pick and roll was the buzz and 3 second lane violations and palming.
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Feb 11, 2025, 12:05 PM
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Kevin Keatts made the final four last year but that hasn't made him a hot name for openings...
Did get him a nice raise though.
If we are so successful that top schools come for Brad, "Let that be the problem!"
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For the success that Brad has had since taking the HC position at Clemson, I think that he has been paid a lot more than he deserved when speaking about the limited success that he's had over his 15 years as the HC at Clemson!!!
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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For the success that Brad has had since taking the HC position at Clemson, I think that he has been paid a lot more than he deserved when speaking about the limited success that he's had over his 15 years as the HC at Clemson!!!
Brad likely worked harder in his first eight years given the resources he had available. His success of late, once properly supported, matches his level of compensation
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
Feb 13, 2025, 2:36 PM
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So he's working less hard now than the first 8 years? And is paid more?
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Just keep winning! Clemson success = Brad success. Sounds like a plan.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Agree. I'd just seen some posts and stories about it lately so I asked the T-Net experts. It'll work out, just spitballing. Enjoy the season etc.
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I can tell you that Brad loves Clemson and has no plans to leave.
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He has had opportunities to leave before and chose not to pursue them.
If Clemson continues to give him what he wants in order to be successful, he will stay. Simple as that. And I believe Clemson will.
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Yep, he’ll match/exceed for him to stay ..
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First, Kentucky is not great. Unc is horrible. Duke was a good win. The rest of the ACC goes from horrible to just ok.
So, I think you are wayyyyyyyy exaggerating . No, I don’t think Clemson should pay any more for Brad.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
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Thank you 81. I appreciate your honest civil response. May be a coincidence, but it's been a remarkable turnaround since the assistants were hired. Neff's doing all the necessary steps. I disagree with facilities being a huge impact. Imo, it's the Jimmy and Joe's and veteran leaders.
I also agree with your assessment of the teams. Davis appears to have botched recruiting, and lost the locker room. As have all the unc programs.
I don't see Kentucky making a deep run. How they jumped 7 net points in beating scar I have no clue. In fact, I don't see how the coots still have a 90 net. And Carolina at 45 net coming in was a total joke.
As for Duke, it took all the breaks go our way to beat them. Missing Gillis and Flagg having the flu was a bit of good luck for us. But, that's bball. Thanks again.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
Feb 11, 2025, 9:46 AM
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I don't know CGA ..... maybe the Coots can go 0-16 in the SEC and still get in the big dance with all of those impressive Quad 1 losses ..... and we all thought "close" only counted in horse shoes and hand grenades.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
Feb 13, 2025, 1:28 PM
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The patients that's been given to Brad during his time at Clemson has done more to help his future as a D1 coach than anything else has, and yes, I do believe that...
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It is way past time
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For the Toxic T Netters to stop with the constant sarcastic/negative posts about Coach BroWnell. Just slap yourself and admit Clemson has one of the best basketball coaches in the country. He recruits. He works the portal. He wins. I promise you you will feel better. The Lunatic Fringe never disappoints. Now sickness and poor performance by the opponent is the reason Clemson is winning. Unbelievable.
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Re: It is way past time
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I'm a Brad supporter and like him a lot personally, but to deny that this banner conference year is being done against a league that finished 2-14 in the ACC-SEC Challenge is just ignoring the facts. It is also a fact that we were one of the two wins and the fact that the vast majority of the conference is pathetic should not keep us from enjoying our success. Our first conference tournament title would sure be nice.
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You said the same about our ACC record this year in football, yes?***
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People #### on Brad because of you and JK.
That's it.
Stop being an ####### and posting stupid troll #### and the bashing will stop.
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
Feb 11, 2025, 9:38 AM
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Personally, I’d probably support him to better himself by moving on and look for another up and coming coach.
I’m sure we’d find a good replacement for less $ and still has some amazing assistants.
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Feb 11, 2025, 12:07 PM
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If you lose a coach that's popular with his players, you know he can take the entire team with him, right?
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Re: Brad will have a ton of offers- does Neff match
Feb 13, 2025, 1:32 PM
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No doubt that top assistant coaches help a HC to gain greatness as anything can bc it's those assistants that work their butts off with getting the best players to commit to the program...
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