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I don't understand it....
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I don't understand it....


Dec 18, 2013, 2:28 PM

Why is it as soon as someone comes on here an puts a message up that doesn't fit into your Orange colored sunglass world, they are wrong? Everyone always wants them banned because the voice their opinions.... Everyone says enough is enough.... Well maybe to you, losing five in a row to the coots isn't enough but in the words the most everyone else uses.... enough is enough. People like us are tired of watching our team lost to them. I'm sorry if it offends you and you don't like it. If you don't want to read it then don't click on the message or just keep your opinion to yourself.
We have to come on here an read your messages about how everything is ok and that losing to them isn't a big deal and that at least we made a BCS game and all the kind of BS. It's fans like you who are the problem. Not fans like us who are fed up with the crap.

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Boo-who!


Dec 18, 2013, 2:30 PM

There is a can of worms outside with your name on it.

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"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." -John Newton


Trying to tell me that I just opened a can of worms?***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:31 PM



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Yes, you did ... and you can now eat them.***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:57 PM



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Re: Boo-who!


Dec 25, 2013, 3:20 PM [ in reply to Boo-who! ]

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this but here goes. For the past three years we have lost to Shaw and D. Thompson because we can't stop the QB draw/run. Why? We know what they are going to do, it happens every year. This year we stopped them cold. Even with the six (gulp)turnovers, we could have won the game if we contained Shaw. What is with this, will B Miller run wild because we can't seem to scheme an athletic QB? What's up with this?

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Wrong


Dec 25, 2013, 4:46 PM

Last year, yes.

This year, we lost because we turned the ball over 6 times

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Opinions are single. Agendas are when you post one post


Dec 18, 2013, 2:30 PM

after another on the same topic all in rapid succession even if no one responds to your first post.

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it's how I do business Mr. AThomas***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:31 PM



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What kinda business? Coot propaganda?***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:32 PM



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Nope. Of getting my point across. Can you Tmail me


Dec 18, 2013, 2:36 PM

and we carry on our conversation. We have one going on two different threads

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The only conversation I have for you is stop being so short-


Dec 18, 2013, 2:39 PM

sighted. Boyd is not the problem. He has played badly before but in the case of the last 2 years he has only played badly 3X out of 26 games.

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And yet you profess it is us with the problem..LOL***


Dec 18, 2013, 10:45 PM [ in reply to it's how I do business Mr. AThomas*** ]



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We're stuck with Dabo, until the bloom wears off the rose


Dec 18, 2013, 6:55 PM [ in reply to Opinions are single. Agendas are when you post one post ]

He's going to run into a tough schedule one of these years and go 7-6, and if the Coot losing streak is still alive, he's a goner.

Or, USC can start sucking and he can start beating them to save his hide, a la Tommy Bowden

Neither outcome sounds terribly appealing to me.

Or we can win 'em all. That might happen if DW turns out to be the real deal. In that case we need only recruit o-line, receivers and defense.

I don't see any way out of him being our coach for the next 10-15 years. Could be worse I guess, he's a nice guy.

And this is what we're stuck with.

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Can we all agree that we need to cut the entire program


Dec 18, 2013, 2:31 PM

and start over again. That appears to be the only adequate solution.

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Bingo*


Dec 18, 2013, 2:41 PM

This guy gets it, it is all of the satisfied people in our fan base. If we don't strive every year to be 13-0 then we have failed our mission. We should want to win every game no matter what and if you think its ok to lose to your two biggest rivals like we did then there are minor issues you should take care of yourself. However, we shouldn't fire or clean house. There is no ridiculous cure to our good season. We shouldn't hold our head down and we shouldn't stick out or chest and be satisfied. Come on now its all common sense. BE proud and support our team but when its time to stick your foot in somebody's @$$ then stick it up there. Its a nasty game and a nasty nature of the beast. We should never be satisfied going 0-2 against top rivals. Screw all this we should be complacent with losing to our rivals.


Sincerely happy but frustrated loyal Clemson fan who is an enrolled studenT******,



Clemsons Finest

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I no longer even like football


Dec 18, 2013, 2:44 PM [ in reply to Can we all agree that we need to cut the entire program ]

Do we have a rasslin team yet ?

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If we do, we should fire the coach***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:46 PM



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Tell 'em coot***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:36 PM



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So I'm curious


Dec 18, 2013, 2:37 PM

If you were the AD, what would be your plan? In the last three seasons we've won at least 10 games and an ACC championship. Now that's not bad, but according to you, it's not good enough.

So would you clean house because we haven't beaten the school of Columbia? Would you fire coordinators or just Dabo? If you fire the staff, how would recruiting turn out for next season? I assume it would take a hit, wouldn't that hurt us in future games against USuCk? Who would you plan to hire (and please don't give names like Cowher, Gruden, Saban, Ford, etc, only logical choices please)?

Please weigh in, I'd love to see your thoughts on how to fix our "mediocrity" as you see it.

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Bingo. No one will fault you for having an opinion but


Dec 18, 2013, 2:40 PM

complaints without any constructive ideas begins to sound like whining after a time.

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I haven't said we are "mediocrity" I'm just saying


Dec 18, 2013, 2:42 PM [ in reply to So I'm curious ]

that losing to them is not acceptable. If you really look at the ten wins, it's not that impressive. We beat up on Wake Forest, Syracuse, UVA and etc.... Not very good.

I would attempt to fix the problem by letting Dabo know that something is going to have to change or he will be finding another job. Put some pressure on him because he feels like as long as we win 10-11 games we are ok. That is his cushion as he has pretty much stated in interviews. Put him on the hotseat... that's the only thing to do. Have to let the man know that losing to them is not an option. Dabo has changed the culture, he's changed the culture with tiger fans now being ok with losing to them but winning 10-11 games a year will soothe it all. I will not stand by and be one of those people.

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I like how you always ignore LSU, Georgia, Auburn x 2***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:44 PM



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Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine


Dec 18, 2013, 2:46 PM

like 9-20 those two seasons. UGA was not that great either, even with a healthy team and LSU was just pure luck. That's why man

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So, none of our wins count


Dec 18, 2013, 2:48 PM

That's disappointing, guess we are terrible. FIRE THE COACH, FIRE THE PLAYERS, FIRE GOD, FIRE SOMEONE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY!

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Re: Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine


Dec 18, 2013, 2:50 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

I agree with you, I liked it much better when we won 6 or 7 games a year!!

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Bring back the good old days. Much more fun to not know


Dec 18, 2013, 3:45 PM

which of the lower tier teams we would lose to. Bah Humbug.

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So his wins can be explained away but no pass for the losses


Dec 18, 2013, 2:50 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

?

That's convenient. That's why people call you a Coot.

Make no mistake, UGA, when healthy, when we beat them, are a national championship caliber team. As was LSU last year.

Fact is, winning 10 games one year is a big deal--it's part of the reason CTB was let go. Winning 10+ 3-years in a row is a huge deal. Going to a BCS game 2 times in 3 years is a HUGE deal.

No one is happy about losing to the Coots. Most of just have some perspective about it.

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the coots were pathetically bad when we beat them regularly. their program


Dec 18, 2013, 2:51 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

was a national joke until Spurrier came.

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And there it is


Dec 18, 2013, 2:52 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

If you can discount every win, then there is nothing that can ever be done, short of winning the MNC every year, that will be good enough.

If you can look at the UGA game and say "Eh, they weren't that good", and then look at the LSU game and claim it as all luck then you are either trolling (which your post style and frequency seems to support) or simply never going to be pleased.

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"But if you take away his wins, he doesn't even have that


Dec 18, 2013, 2:53 PM

many wins"

Coot logic epitomized. This is what gets you branded a Coot.

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Wow...just wow...


Dec 18, 2013, 2:58 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

What color is the sky in your world?

I'm guessing you have your head stuck too far up your own a$$ to see it.




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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Okay, if want to throw opponents records into the mix


Dec 18, 2013, 3:02 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

We lost to an undefeated unanimous #1 FSU who is 13-0 and a #8 South Carolina who is 10-2 and a great team.

2012 we lost to a #4 FSU who finished the season 12-2 and was dominant. And we lost to #12 SC who finished the season 11-2...

You're a broken record, just STFU.

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Get em...also, any news on the Lonnie Utah?


Dec 18, 2013, 3:03 PM

Have we flogged him in the public square yet?

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The ignorance is palpable with so many posters here.***


Dec 18, 2013, 3:06 PM



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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


It's kind of fun, it makes me feel better about myself***


Dec 18, 2013, 3:32 PM



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You enjoy being the tallest midget huh?


Dec 18, 2013, 3:35 PM

;)

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Aspiring member of the TigerNet Sewer Dwellers


No, I enjoy being a giant among midgets


Dec 18, 2013, 3:40 PM

Consider me the Florida State of Tigernet...ohhh, no he didn't..oh yes, oh yes I did.

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Also, Auburn was 11-14 those two years, keep trying.***


Dec 18, 2013, 3:04 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]



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losing to us maybe had a lot to do with their season falling apart, they


Dec 18, 2013, 4:35 PM

just seemed to give up after that.

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So on one side the wins don't count


Dec 18, 2013, 10:23 PM

and on the other side the losses don't matter and the wins are even better than they look.


I ####### hate you all.

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Re: Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine


Dec 18, 2013, 8:45 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

CLEMSONFAN2000C IS A FREAKING GENIUS!!!

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Re: Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine


Dec 18, 2013, 8:45 PM [ in reply to Because AUBURN WAS HORRIBLE. They were a combine ]

I WAS BEING SERIOUS 2 CLEMSONFAN2000 #GENIUS

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Re: I like how you always ignore LSU, Georgia, Auburn x 2***


Dec 18, 2013, 3:06 PM [ in reply to I like how you always ignore LSU, Georgia, Auburn x 2*** ]

And a ranked FSU, and VTx2 when they were rolling over everyone.

I don't know why everyone can't just admit that things have kind of been like a rollercoaster with Dabo. We have had some really awesome wins over the last 3 years. We have 3 ten win seasons in a row, have won the ACC, and are making our second BCS appearance in 3 years. On the other hand, we have lost to SCAR 5 times, suffered the worst BCS loss in BCS history, and been handed our worst home loss in school history. We're not going to win every game, but as soon as we get more consistent against elite teams, we will ourselves be an elite program. We are currently just outside the realm of elite. I don't think any changes need to be made staff wise, we just have to get more consistent against the better competition we face.


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I disagree about the rollercoaster. Dabo has removed the


Dec 18, 2013, 3:09 PM

dips of the coaster, we aren't losing to teams we shouldn't lose to. What we need to happen is to win more of the games that should be toss-ups, and 2012 LSU and 2013 Georgia are proof that it can be done. 2013 tOSU would be awesome.

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Re: I disagree about the rollercoaster. Dabo has removed the


Dec 18, 2013, 3:13 PM

I agree with you mostly. When I said rollercoaster, I really meant the super highs we get with some of the awesome wins we have had, and the terrible lows we have felt when we just get inexplicably blown out (FSU this year, WVU Orange Bowl) or show up looking unprepared (SCARx5).

The days of losing to teams we have no business losing to appear to be long gone. We no longer play down to competition, but we do seem to let games against big time opponents snowball on us if we get behind early sometimes. Get more consistent against the better teams on our schedule, and we will be elite.

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Yea, we have a mentality to fold it up and go home if


Dec 18, 2013, 3:17 PM

a momentum swing occurs that is equivalent to a TKO.

The Orange Bowl 99yd fumble return followed up by the interception sealed that game.

The huge KO return in 2012 FSU sealed that game.

2012 SCar we were just outplayed physically.

2013 FSU first play fumbled followed by Tajh's fumble score sealed the game in the 1st quarter.

2013 SCar we managed to keep fighting despite the turnovers, but it was either Tajh's fumble or the second punt muff that sealed that game.


I don't know how you would even coach that either, I think it goes on the individual himself. I also think it is the one flaw of Tajh is he doesn't let mistakes go and it weighs on him in a game.

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Re: Yea, we have a mentality to fold it up and go home if


Dec 18, 2013, 3:20 PM

Did you say Tajh's fumble could have been costly in thje USuC game...You Coot ...you should be banned forever and never allowed in Death Valley again ..

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Tajh refuses to cut it loose in rivalry games


Dec 18, 2013, 3:35 PM [ in reply to Yea, we have a mentality to fold it up and go home if ]

He usually does well in the first drive and then he just refuses to throw the ball once the defense adjusts to take away our primary target. He is not good at making the second or gasp, third read. He waits, waits, waits, for the primary, and then usually runs into a sack. He would rather throw it to a triple teams Watkins down the hash marks than to a 1 on 1 coverage Bryant down the sideline. I just don't get it.

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That is what will kill his draft status. Several draft


Dec 18, 2013, 3:58 PM

scouts have said that exact thing to David Hood in the press box that Boyd's decision making need a lot of work. I firmly believe he will improve on that, but unfortunately we're out of time. Tajh comes from a good area in Virginia, is a very intelligent guy, and will succeed I believe.

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I hope he is a career back-up


Dec 18, 2013, 4:02 PM

That ='s millionaire who can walk and feed himself at 50. Charlie Whitehurst is my hero.

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Re: I disagree about the rollercoaster. Dabo has removed the


Dec 18, 2013, 3:38 PM [ in reply to I disagree about the rollercoaster. Dabo has removed the ]

What should happen is not to get beat by double digits 2 years in a row to FSU and 5 years in a row to the coots!

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No one complains about dissenting opinions. It's moronic,


Dec 18, 2013, 2:39 PM

subjective, knee-jerk, perspectiveless, inane, repetitive drivel that no one wants to hear.

Don't expect rational discourse if you don't want to contribute yourself.

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discussion board. discuss.***


Dec 18, 2013, 2:49 PM



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I'll telll you what...


Dec 18, 2013, 2:55 PM

and I think I speak for the entire board when I say, we will all try to be nicer if you will try to be smarter.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


I won't, I hate smart people


Dec 18, 2013, 2:58 PM

That's why I hang out here.

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Flyslyw


Dec 18, 2013, 2:56 PM

Good post. People want to bash, but what is the real solution? If we had beaten the coots even 2 times in the last 5 years everyone would be good. The only logical thing to do is keep our current system in place and see what happens. If we they win 6 or 7... Then let's hire a new coach. But seriously, the best plan right now is to put on our big boy pants and ride this one out. Things will change, their recruiting has not been stellar and Slurrier is getting old.

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You want us to keep our opinions to ourselves...interesting.


Dec 18, 2013, 3:06 PM

If you don't want to hear what others have to say, why post to begin with?

Oh, yeah...your just trolling.

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Re: I don't understand it....


Dec 18, 2013, 3:10 PM

Take a hike fool!

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If I were you I just wouldn't come back here again EVER.***


Dec 18, 2013, 3:23 PM



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Can you show us ....


Dec 18, 2013, 3:40 PM

one post where someone said they were satisfied with losing 5 in a row to the coots and it is not a big deal. I think every one is fed up with losing to them. As much as I hate the coots and beating them makes my season, I do have enough sense to realize that one game does not make the season. Your agenda is to belittle everything Clemson. You never have anything good to say.


And in your own words..If you don't want to read it then don't click on the message or just keep your opinion to yourself.

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Looks like you have plenty of responses ^


Dec 18, 2013, 4:16 PM

But I agree, does get frustrating...


but what can ya do?

#21

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Re: I don't understand it....


Dec 18, 2013, 4:26 PM

found a pic of the OP



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coots usually dont understand much...***


Dec 18, 2013, 7:16 PM



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You play too many video games


Dec 18, 2013, 8:37 PM

Go back to the xbox where you can play 40 seasons in a row and win every game by 200 points, that will suit you better.

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Re: I don't understand it....


Dec 18, 2013, 8:43 PM

AMEN!!!!!!!

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Ok you're King for a day, what do you change?


Dec 18, 2013, 9:29 PM

Do you really think Dabo and company want to lose 5 straight? Give me a break...

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I don't understand it....You are not even half in 46% who


Dec 18, 2013, 10:35 PM

cares what you think coot!

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Re: Or you could not click on positive messages and not read


Dec 25, 2013, 2:05 PM

them? Works both ways 2000. :)

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Stop feeling sorry for yourself little sister.


Dec 25, 2013, 2:45 PM

If your going to stand up for something make sure it something that matters. If you've decided to stand firm on your convictions then stand like a man, find resolve and affix it firmly in you heart then prepare yourself for battle.

Take the battle to the enemy without reservations and crush him with your will. Battle results in wounds and wounds results in scars. A man doesn't whine about his battle scars he wears them as a medal of honor.

Clearly you want Dabo fired because of the losses to scar. You picked the battle and chose the battleground. You've found your adversaries have greater number and their dedication to defending their position is immutable. You've also found the sting from the darts you are using for ammo only angers your opposers and stiffens their resolve.

ON LIES AND STRAWMAN ARGUMENTS

1. Who wants you banned?

2. Who exactly said losing to the coots five times in a row isn't a big deal?

3. If no one said losing to the coots five times in a row is OK then exactly who are you impeaching?

4. If there is no one to impeach then who is the problem?

5. Answer to question #4: YOU!

6. Are you really proposing we fire the coach and refuse the BCS Bowl? That's how it sounds.

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Re: Stop feeling sorry for yourself little sister.


Dec 25, 2013, 10:23 PM

Boom!

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Why is it that coots come on here at all***


Dec 25, 2013, 3:13 PM



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What color glasses they wear on FGF??***


Dec 25, 2013, 3:14 PM



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Clemsonfan2000c=TigerLow


Dec 25, 2013, 3:16 PM

At it again

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Re: Clemsonfan2000c=TigerLow


Dec 25, 2013, 10:21 PM

YES! You see it too! LOL. They have to be one and the same! Their posts are almost identical!

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