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All-TigerNet [12245]
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So no matter if we sell out the Peach Bowl or not
Dec 11, 2012, 3:26 PM
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we still dip into the red because of revenue sharing? You know what this article tells me? The commissioner of this conference is not doing his job. Our bowl lineup is starting to take its toll.
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Re: So no matter if we sell out the Peach Bowl or not
Dec 11, 2012, 3:27 PM
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But yet our Admin don't seem to want to be proactive about getting out of this conference.
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Re: So no matter if we sell out the Peach Bowl or not
Dec 11, 2012, 3:38 PM
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Well I am not one for just jumping to a conference that only has 10 schools. I want the Big 12 only if any other members of the ACC leaves.
Here is what i do not understand
1. How in the world is our TV contract so bad when our schools have the biggest TV markets (TV markets are supposed to be the end all be all right?)
2. How in the world John Swofford has survived this long. In his tenure he has accepted TV contracts that are not even in the same ballpark with other similiar conferences. I am not talking about an SEC type contract. I am talking about a Pac 12, Big 12, B1G type contract. For crying out loud the Big 12 only has 10 schools and terrible TV markets.
3. This conference has the opportunity to be great. We have the fertile Southeast recruiting grounds, decent football schools (CU, FSU, VT, GT, UL, UNC, NC St....), and unbelievable basketball schools. How in the world can you not sell that better? It literally makes me want to drop kick Swofford's worthless ### into oblivion
Summary: This conference has all the potential in the world. The schools are to blame for bad hires. When an AD makes terrible hires he usually gets canned after significant drop offs in money. When a conference commission secures terrible contracts WE GIVE HIM A COMMITMENT ON A LETTER FROM OUR PRESIDENT!!!! W T F
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Re: So no matter if we sell out the Peach Bowl or not
Dec 11, 2012, 3:30 PM
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There definitely seems to be something wrong when the best non-BCS bowl affiliated with the ACC is a money losing propositon for a school and fanbase located two hours from the bowl site.
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CFA bowl has a high payout for non BCS***
Dec 11, 2012, 3:31 PM
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Thats what happens in every conference with equal sharing
Dec 11, 2012, 3:32 PM
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The conference gets the money and then issues allowances (ticket sales are part of it) for each bowl depending on travel, length that the bowl requires you to be onsite etc. What the schools allocate to that budget is up to them.
The rest of the money comes back to the conference members in the payout at the end. (BTW, same goes for NCAA tournament money. Teams show losses on trips to the NCAA all the time).
Think about it. If the total revenue from bowls was less than the total cost of going to a bowl you wouldn't have 35 bowl games and teams clammoring to go.
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Re: Thats what happens in every conference with equal sharing
Dec 11, 2012, 3:44 PM
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IPTAY FAMILY,
I don't agree with that concept. Currently this system seems like a welfare system. Clemson works hard in its football program, sells our allotment, represents the ACC. Duke gets to a bowl and their 300 fans show up. We are now essentially paying for Duke's food stamps.
There is no reason the bowl and the school cannot make money. It is up to a conference commissioner to secure the TV deal that keeps your schools in the black. BOTTOM LINE.
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Equal Revenue sharing is basically a welfare system
Dec 11, 2012, 4:00 PM
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But of the 5 major conferences, at least 4 have it. Unequal sharing killed the Big East and almost killed the Big 12. BOTTOM LINE
And the total money flowing to the conference and back out to the schools is enough for most to actually stay in the black on competition like bowls. And Duke basketball could say the same thing about our basketball program most years.
Vandy is riding Alabama's coat tails.
The Kansas City Chiefs are riding the coat tails of the Cowboys when it comes to NFL revenue.
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The catlle car marked ACC is right this way.
Dec 11, 2012, 3:32 PM
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Please step in and enjoy the short ride. It is taking us to a better place according to our leaders.
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Miami and UNC not going to bowls, but still getting a share
Dec 11, 2012, 3:32 PM
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really screws us over.
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I agree...........you can make a case to distribute "some"
Dec 11, 2012, 3:37 PM
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bowl revenue to teams who don't make post-season play,.... but teams who are ineligible because NCAA probation OR because they self-ban in hopes of AVOIDING a severe NCAA Probation shouldn't get a danged red cent
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Which is a complete load of horse **** if true.
Dec 11, 2012, 3:40 PM
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If you are on probation, whether self-imposed or NCAA imposed, and as a result you cannot particupate in post season play, you absolutely should not share in the revenue.
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Re: So no matter if we sell out the Peach Bowl or not
Dec 11, 2012, 3:39 PM
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The Peach Bowl Does not exsist. If you want to be taken seriously and esecially if you are going to criticise then you should at least get into the correct century when you talk about a subject!
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Actually the Peach Bowl Charter is still active
Dec 11, 2012, 3:45 PM
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and held by the Atlanta sports council. The thought is that if the CFA Bowl becomes one of the semi final bowls the Peach will come back as the ACC/SEC tie-in.
So if you are going to nit-pick, be prepared to be nit-picked.
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Re: So no matter if we sell out the Peach Bowl or not
Dec 14, 2012, 12:27 PM
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Thats like saying your name is Tom but you will always be Fred to me! Just plain crazy!
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Ha! Good one!***
Dec 14, 2012, 1:35 PM
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Re: So no matter if we sell out the Peach Bowl or not
Dec 11, 2012, 3:46 PM
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It is time for CU, FSU, VT, GT and others to get vocal about NOT sharing the revenue from the bowls. Let those other teams better themselves and get into bowls and make their own money.
If anything, let the team who goes to the bowl take 75% and then you give 25% to the league to be divided among the other schools.
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Its an interesting and fair idea
Dec 11, 2012, 4:02 PM
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but unequal revenue sharing is basically what forced Miami, VT and BC out of the Big East and has pretty much killed that league. It was the reason Nebraska and Colorado bolted from the Big 12.
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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It tells me that our athletic dept
Dec 11, 2012, 4:03 PM
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needs to learn how to budget better so they can actually cover their expenses
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CU Guru [1895]
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You are using incorrect logic
Dec 14, 2012, 12:46 PM
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Also you made this same thread 2 days ago.
We lose money going to the bowl because we (as in Clemson) are spending more than what the ACC is giving us for the bowl stipend.
The money we go over is offset in the future by our cut of the conference bowl money.
Like I said before if this was a real issue, we would not spend as much money as we are planning to.
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What's logical about probation teams sitting at home and
Dec 14, 2012, 12:49 PM
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collecting their cut for cheating?
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CU Guru [1895]
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Because that is how it works
Dec 14, 2012, 12:53 PM
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What conference does not do that?
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Re: Because that is how it works
Dec 14, 2012, 4:01 PM
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None, you are correct!
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