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Are fumbles really the problem?
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Oct 31, 2023, 3:29 PM
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I don't see how you can blame the fumbles as the single source of the problem and not the 97 other plays that were missed opportunities. You could easily say if it weren't for 24 dropped passes, we would be 8-0 right now. Don't all the issues come out of the same pot of stew?
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
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Oct 31, 2023, 3:31 PM
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Just a symptom.
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They are not the only problem. However, they haven't helped.***
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Oct 31, 2023, 3:32 PM
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
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Oct 31, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Another example, although this is from last season, when Dabo was talking about Notre Dame blocking one of our punts, he said we had a missed assignment on a 3-man shield. How do you miss an assignment on a 3-man shield when all they do is stand in one place and grab a body that comes their way?
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ND blocked 7 punts last year
Oct 31, 2023, 4:20 PM
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So maybe it had more to do with what they were doing than what we were doing.
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
Oct 31, 2023, 3:45 PM
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Part of the problem. Just like Tyler
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
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Oct 31, 2023, 3:48 PM
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Hard to overlook giving up a touchdown on a fumble and a fumble on the goal line.
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
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Oct 31, 2023, 3:54 PM
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True, but they aren't the ONLY problem. Any number of other plays could have resulted in similar point swings.
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
Oct 31, 2023, 4:29 PM
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Everyone knows that, but turnovers are the game changing plays.
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yes .. fumbles are a real problem.. DO you know anything about
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Oct 31, 2023, 3:58 PM
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American football?
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Re: yes .. fumbles are a real problem.. DO you know anything about
Oct 31, 2023, 3:59 PM
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I said "the" problem, not "a" problem, do you even know ENGRISHHHH?
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
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Oct 31, 2023, 4:04 PM
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Poor execution as whole which includes fumbles, interceptions, dropped passes, poor reads and missed blocks.
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
Oct 31, 2023, 4:06 PM
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Exactly, but that's not what Dabo said. He said we would be sitting here 8-0 if not for fumbles, but he left out we would be 8-0 if not for (x number of things that also didn't happen). I wish it were just the fumbles.
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they are A problem, along with poor line play, receivers who can;t catch a cold
Oct 31, 2023, 4:19 PM
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; no complete RB (speed, power, ball protection) and defense being out of position in spite of never blitzing
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Turnover margin is huge. It turns an above-average team like The Tigers
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Oct 31, 2023, 4:23 PM
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into a below-average team in a hurry.
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
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Oct 31, 2023, 4:25 PM
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Turnovers are 100% the problem (both fumbles and interceptions). If you eliminate most of those, it's a completely different season. And another thing about turnovers, they get in your head and cause other concentration problems. There are no teams with this many turnovers doing well.
Go Tigers!!! Beat ND!!!
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
Oct 31, 2023, 7:37 PM
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Look at it this way. We’re giving up an average of 8.2 points per game because of turnovers. We lost 2 games in overtime so it took us giving them points to tie us then beat us. Another game was lost by 7 points and we actually spotted them with 14 points off of turnovers. Without those, at worst, we would be 7-1. Without giving up 15 points against Duke, the outcome might have been different. So yeah, fumbles/turnovers are the problem.
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
Oct 31, 2023, 7:41 PM
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Sorry, I was off a little on the average points but, still, those turnovers are great momentum changers. Will definitely take the wind out of a team’s sails
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Re: Are fumbles really the problem?
Oct 31, 2023, 8:04 PM
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Not just fumbles, turnovers. Last Saturday, one pick led to points. Next one was pick six. Lots of our turn overs took away scoring opportunities, but also led to opponents getting points. This isn’t a dig at our team, just looking at missed chances. Go Tigers!!!
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