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Anybody started lifting later in life?
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Anybody started lifting later in life?

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:00 PM
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I was always fairly athletic but never really strong or a gym guy. Anyone started 45 lifting years +? How is it going and any thoughts? Other than don’t hurt yourself because you are old.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:07 PM
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Every time I stand from a sitting position.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:13 PM
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Not claiming I'm the strongest person or a bad ###, but I am much stronger than the average American male. I was skinny as a youth, and when I see people from my youth that haven't seen me in years they are surprised by how much muscle I have added over the years. So highly unlikely you could do anything to me if challenged me. Most likely I would just shove you to the ground and tell you take your loss like a man without even punching you.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:17 PM
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Ok ! Any advice for the OP other than not to mess with you 😂

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Eat clen, tren hard, anavar give up***

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:20 PM
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Oct 26, 2024, 10:26 PM
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D.a.m.n.! I would love to hear some more advice on that, where to get the advice, or how to start that conversation with a physician… I reckon consistency is the most important aspect of that approach as well.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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This is why we all Tnet. Thank you for tour input. Also, I’m very introverted and non-confrontational so I wouldn’t bother you. Sorry if if I bothered you

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:17 PM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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Meet me at the Oculus at midnight.

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Oct 28, 2024, 10:17 AM
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Meet me at the Oculus at midnight.




How did I get involved in this?

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Oct 27, 2024, 9:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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lol I remember that post, who was it again that posted that?

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Oct 27, 2024, 10:58 AM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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And then everyone stood up and clapped

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LOL, I got the reference.


Oct 27, 2024, 12:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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Which I am pretty sure is not a great sign.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:19 PM
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I lifted from ages 35-45. I hurt my shoulder and stopped. I’m 75 now and credit lifting to present good joint health. Overall - it was a good experience. Important points. 1) only use free weights for “push” exercises. 2) ALWAYS use good form 3) take Osteo Biflex 4) lift with a group, 5) after about 4-5 years plan on buying larger shirts, 6) work with a trainer to help you meet personal goals. Hope that helps. Go tigers!

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:22 PM
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Start slow…very slow. Be consistent and start to increase weight and/or reps after a few weeks to a month.

Alternate days between cardio and weights: lifting every other day…Always stretch and be consistent.

Did I mention stretching and consistency? It’s VERY important.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:26 PM
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...... using your body weight is basically going to be the foundation with everything you can do without weights. Using lighter weights with more focus on technique keeps the risk of injury lower.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:34 PM
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Would suggest mainly to work your most important muscle….. your heart. 20 to 30 minutes of brisk walking will pay dividends. Stretching is important too.

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:47 PM
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I'm 73 and I lift 3 or 4 days per week...I use the cable machine mostly but I do bench presses twice a week(flat and incline bench). ..bench in the 130 lbs range for 8 or 10 reps.
Leg presses but not squarts...I don't like the Smith machines...love it!

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:17 PM
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I probably stop lifting in the late 70’s played offensive guard at Newberry College! I retired in Education as teacher, Coach,and principal in 2002! My wife and I moved to Myrtle Beach in 2013 and I was 62 and I noticed my new neighbor left his house Monday-Friday, so asked him where does a 73 year old man go to work 5 days a week and he laughed! He told me he went to CrossFit and worked out M-F and invited me to attend so I did! The greatest weight lifting program I had ever experienced! After six months of hard work I was stronger than ever! Actually finished 5 in the state in my age group in 2016! Then one day we were working on jerk and press and I was pair with a beautiful senior cheerleader from Coastal Carolina because I max were the same😂😂😂. Ok to end this story and telling you why I don’t lift any more. My beautiful blonde partner jerked and pressed 225 and I followed with success! She turned to and said I am going to try 235 and she jerked press and dropped the weight and looked at me and said I know you are going to do this also and that’s when I tore my rotator cuff in my right shoulder! That ended my lifting and have not been tempted to listen to a beautiful young lady again 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡



GO TIGERS🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

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unless if you are severely overweight

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Oct 26, 2024, 10:57 PM
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if you are 45, get a pull-up bar, that will build your upper body and core as quicker than weights and you will be far less likely to strain or injure a muscle. Once you can do more than 15, you can move to weights if you want to add mass, but pull-ups alone are all you need for you entire upper body.

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions.

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Oct 27, 2024, 1:14 AM
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your wrists will be your weakest link so to speak. Doing pullups will immediate strengthen you grip, and your wrists, and are great for biceps, but like I said. You can work your entire upper body on just a pull up bar, and you are doing fewer reps. so it builds muscle quickly. Challenge yourself to do 1 more than you think you can do, even if you can not finish it, that will help you turn the corner and be able to do one more the next time. Rinse repeat, take a day off in between. You can build muscle in under 5 minutes a day.

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Oct 27, 2024, 6:33 AM
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Sound advice Tigerbalm1.

Calisthenics was and remains my base. Pull/Push for upper is great with a simple pull up bar and push-ups, or chair dips. Agree to keep wrists flexible/warmup and stretch forearms and shoulders is a must.

If OP can't do a pull up, then put a chair under the bar, place one foot on it and use it to assist until you can do 1 independent of assistance. Also do dead hangs and negatives.
Dead hand time yourself, try 5 to 10secs, then rest 30 sec. Do maybe 5 to 10/day.
Negatives, use chair to assist getting a full pull up, now hold as long as possible and as slow as possible lower yourself down from the pullup. DO NOT DO THESE A LOT. Max 2 to 3 a day, after you've done your routine.

I would suggest working the other portions of posterior chain as well (Hams, Glutes, Calves) by doing wall squats, lunges, body weight Bulgarian split squats (my favorite).

Good luck! Stay positive and healthy!

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Oct 27, 2024, 7:28 AM [ in reply to Re: unless if you are severely overweight ]
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Tigerbalm1 said:

your wrists will be your weakest link so to speak. Doing pullups will immediate strengthen you grip, and your wrists, and are great for biceps, but like I said. You can work your entire upper body on just a pull up bar, and you are doing fewer reps. so it builds muscle quickly. Challenge yourself to do 1 more than you think you can do, even if you can not finish it, that will help you turn the corner and be able to do one more the next time. Rinse repeat, take a day off in between. You can build muscle in under 5 minutes a day.




I started working out in my 50s and had terrible tendinitis in both wrists at different times. I modified my workouts but never stopped. I have built up my wrist strength where it’s no longer a problem.

For the OP, I am almost 63 and workout five times per week. Two athletic conditioning classes and three days using a combination of EGym weight machines + rowing machine + Ski machine. My goals are simply maintaining muscle tone as I age and overall health. The one key for me is to remember my age as it is easy to push too hard which can lead to injury. I make up for that by being consistent with my workouts.

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Oct 27, 2024, 8:07 AM [ in reply to Re: unless if you are severely overweight ]
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It you haven't worked out in a while start slow. Take a month to get yourself in shape to get in shape. Start off with bands and body weight exercises.

Buy a heart rate monitor.

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Oct 27, 2024, 9:41 AM [ in reply to unless if you are severely overweight ]
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Pull-ups will do absolutely nothing for your chest or triceps and abdominal benefit will be extremely limited.

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Oct 27, 2024, 1:08 PM
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Plus, they are hard as heck to do.

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Oct 28, 2024, 7:41 PM
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They're a phenomenal back exercise with secondary benefits to your biceps, but they are not a total upper body builder. Biomechanically they do nothing to provide stimulus to pecs, triceps, or front/middle delts.

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Oct 27, 2024, 1:28 PM [ in reply to unless if you are severely overweight ]
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but....add pushups and body squats and then you have a full body workout just like that.. however at my age and weight , pullups are now out of the question ..boo hoo....

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:04 PM
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I didn’t start lifting later in life but I am lifting into my 40s. A few things I think about:


Warm up and stretching are the most important things. For example when I do a shoulder workout I always start with a circuit of Arnold presses at a lower weight to get the blood flowing

Rest is key when I was 20 I could go out to the bar til 2 and then Kill it in the gym the next day like nothing was wrong. These days if I get to bed after 11 there’s really no point in lifting the next day.

Hydration is more important as you age. I try to drink a gallon of water a day and it helps prevent cramping.

HIT is great but don’t over do it. I like to do every minute on the minute workouts for short time periods. 30 seconds of work 30 seconds of rest every minute for 10 minutes at a reasonable weight you’ll be surprised at the gains.

Good luck!

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:13 PM
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Thank you. 30 seconds of work. What should rest period be . 1 minute or do?

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:14 PM
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Sorry..or so

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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It’s a set every minute on the minute for 10 minutes. So work 30 seconds then rest 30 seconds, work 30 seconds rest 30 seconds…until you complete 10 sets.

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You can also vary it by count

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:19 PM
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sometimes I’ll do something like 10 pushups and 2 pull-ups each minute. It might take 20 seconds to do the work and you can rest for the rest of the minute.

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Oct 27, 2024, 7:05 AM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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Only 2 things I would add to interval training like Geech is talking about is first and most important you don't just have to weight or cardio train. Joint health is just as important so look up joint health exercises and mix those in to the sets you do. Second and especially when starting out you can lengthen the rest periods to 45 seconds or longer if you just find yourself out of breath until your body learns how to be more efficient with recovery.

More important than anything is see a doctor and get an idea from him/her about just how hard your body is ready to exercise. I'm 54 and doc gave me the full clear to go as hard as I want a couple of years ago after an EKG or whatever the letters are for heart health.

Amount of weight doesn't matter at first. Go as light as you want or need.

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Oct 26, 2024, 11:22 PM
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Read educate yourself on different strength training programs.

3x3, 3x5, 5x3, etc..
Read about nutrition and sleep 7 to 8 hrs a night.

Stretch/yoga moves very important.

Burst cardio vs steady state best for keeping healthy and keeping strength to lift.

Most of all do not compare yourself to others.
Especially if you're natty vs others.

I've trained a lot of power lifters and body builders 15+ yrs ago. You can't belive 90% of these lifting routines and diet routines bc most people using every androgen, growth, or prohormone they can find. Those lift routines and diets won't work for a natty

Just my 2 cents.
Good luck!

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Oct 27, 2024, 3:53 AM
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Yes, after Cancer treatments and I busted my butt for 5mos after treatments! I can tell you about my crazy wrestling weights but I never got close when I recovered from cancer treatments. I am 53 now but 2yrs ago I got myself back in it with a side of bourbon. I was supposed to cash it in 10yrs ago according to Dr and I can still drink bourbon and laugh!

Do what makez you happy! Who cares besides you? Im selling my house and going nomad like Bill!

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Oct 27, 2024, 8:07 AM
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During the LSU game I lifted a top shelf Margherita twice! Hard to beat unlike LSU with no rushing game!

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Oct 27, 2024, 9:01 AM
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At 66 I go to Prestige Fitness in Mount Pleasant. I believe core and strength development become more important as we age. The Allcore360 is the best core development equipment I have found, especially if you have or have had back issues. The ARX equipment (adaptive resistance) is the safest quickest way to build strength I have found. But the best exercise is one you will do.

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Oct 27, 2024, 8:51 AM
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I lifted for 20 plus years during my military career and when I retired in 2014, i quit everything. Now at 47, been back in the gym now for 2 years and I feel/look amazing. And you can put on good muscle in your 40’s. 2 years ago I was 168 and now I’m 215 and about 10% body fat.

Now, it’s a family affair with my wife, daughter, and son. We all work out 5/6 days a week. They both attend UNC Charlotte, so they still live at home.

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Oct 27, 2024, 9:43 AM
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I have been lifting for almost 40 years. 4-5 times per week. My advice to anyone starting out at any age is start with light weights and high reps. Don’t let your ego get involved. Move up in weight until you can do only 12 reps before failure. Do not do squats from a rack at all. Only do kettlebells squats. Stretch for 10 minutes after each workout to prevent soreness. Eat lots of lean protein and drink tons of water.

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Oct 27, 2024, 10:13 AM
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Squats are a great compound lift and work the whole body.

I had neck surgery and lower back surgery and my military docs said to NEVER do squats or deadlifts.

Well, both are part of my regiment and my back feels better than it’s felt in years. I think you should definitely be smart, research correct form, practice safety, but squats are great in strengthening the abdominal and lower back core muscles which in return will make the back better and reduce injuries. Key is to be smart and TAKE YOUR TIME.

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Oct 27, 2024, 1:45 PM
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I used to do squats in my 20's and had so many episodes of back pain including not being able to sit or stand more than a few minutes in some of the flare-ups. Stopped doing them and haven't had back issues in over 25 years.

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Oct 27, 2024, 5:14 PM
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Form is everything

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Oct 27, 2024, 9:48 AM
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One of my buddies is 45 plus and still benches over 400. But to your point he has lifted and stayed in great shape since he played football in high school. To put it mildly he is a bull, but is not at all arrogant.

I play golf so I do more stretching than heavy weights. Some guys I have played with that were bulky muscle wise seem to stiff to even swing a club, but a little more muscle would not hurt me. I currently do not have the equipment and cannot see myself going to a gym.

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Oct 27, 2024, 9:52 AM
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I got back into lifting when I was 47 and proceeded to get in my best shape since I was 25. You can still get a great “pump” as a 45-50 year old.
I just turned 63, and wondering if I can do it again.

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Oct 27, 2024, 10:31 AM
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You can! I did it a second time. I had Low T from chemo damaging all my glands to include my thyroid, adrenal, prostate, testicles, etc. Had my entire endocrine system screwed up, but I worked out and got myself healthy. Never as strong as I was but stronger and more fit than most 50yr old fellows. I had high expectations because I was a football/wrestler dude which is probably a pinnacle for 90+% of guys. I came to Clemson at 154 to wrestle 126-135, could never get close again, I bulked up too much. I was a PWO and by end of frshman year I weighed 176 at 7% body fat.

When I busted my butt after first rounds of chemo, I went from 230 to 194 but we got my Low-T straight. And no I didn't ever juice beyond Dr recommended levels. Now I just stay active and work, keep around 200lbs and look better than most 50yr old guys but I am biased! Keeping active is key! I still fish tournaments which is work believe it or not, no alcohol allowed, and dark to dark on a boat rocking keeps your core strong especially offshore tournaments. There is a thing called fishing shape and I feel it after off-season!

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Oct 27, 2024, 11:05 AM [ in reply to Re: Anybody started lifting later in life? ]
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You can. I was an absolute werewolf in my 20s, but backed off in 30s and 40s with life and kids, started training intensely again in my late 40s and now my mid 50s I’m stronger and actually have more endurance than many of the young bucks at my gym. There’s a guy at the gym who’s 60, and he’s an absolute beast, but he spends two hours a day in there.

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Lifting what?


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Oct 27, 2024, 10:31 AM
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I started 10 weeks ago. I too was very athletic. I played traveling baseball and softball until aged 30 years. I also played flag football, league basketball and every league I could pretty much year round. In 2001 I broke my back and had two back operations. I was finally cleared to do the thirty minute express workout at Planet Fitness.

It was tough at first. I could barely get through the twenty stations with the lowest weight setting. Today, im working out with over 100lbs on almost every machine. My waist went from 36 to 30. My shirts sleeves are tight because I have biceps again. I’m starting to see abs under the small layer of fat left. My chest is starting to get that shelf back. I had to struggle to find motivation at first. Now I can’t wait to go.

I initially lost weight at first but have since added it back on in muscle weight. Just make sure to listen to your body. If something hurts, stop. Take it slow.

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Oct 27, 2024, 10:57 AM
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Your biggest problem will be recovery. It takes a lot longer at 45 than at 25. I would stick to compound lifts, such as bench, row, OH press and chin ups on Monday. Squat, RDL, and calf raise on Friday. Keep reps 6 to 10 with 3 sets (start with 1 set). You will have go slowly, starting with LIGHT weights. Consistency is key. Good luck and happy lifting.

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Oct 27, 2024, 11:33 AM
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Hello fellow C of C Cougar. I am now 50 and followed a similar journey. Played football and baseball in high school so I was pretty athletic. Got to college and stopped being super active. Later in life it caught up with me and I was up to 215 in my 40's which was not healthy at all for a 5'10 male. At 42, I made the change and started running half marathons and a marathon. I also started lifting again. I have since backed off the running and focused more on lifting to gain a cut and toned body. Below are my recommendations if you want to drop some lbs and tone up.

1. You are 45. So, you will want to ease into this by using lighter weights and not pushing yourself too hard in the beginning. This is a lifestyle change so don't get discouraged by not getting immediate results. You are going to find in a month or so that you are feeling much better though, and your energy levels will increase. I missed 4 days in a row this week due to long work hours and I felt like a slug.

2. Ok. So here is my routine for what it is worth. I like to do a 6-day push/pull split workout. PUSH -Chest/Shoulders/triceps, PULL - Back/Biceps, and the 3rd day LEGS. You can shorten this and find other variations if 6 days does not work for your schedule. I also run 2 miles after I lift then do some ab work. Be careful not to do too much cardio. I also like to throw in some HIIT workouts. The Murph CrossFit workout is one of my favorites for example. I actually do this workout on all days that recognize those that have served our country. My goal is to stay trim and cut. Thus, I workout at a fast pace after my initial heavy lift with a compound lift (bench press, shoulder press, squats or leg press, deadlifts for example). Do not be afraid to go heavy after your muscles have adapted, but do not do this in the beginning. The heavy lifts will tighten your muscles. My pace is literally 20 seconds between sets, but at lower weight. I shoot for 7 to 12 reps. This enables me to keep my heart rate up and really burn some calories. You will want to start off light and shoot for a weight you are good getting 10 reps with.

3. Do a quick warm up and some dynamic stretching before you do your legs.

4. Work in some corrected movements for your shoulders and be sure to stretch. I have some shoulder pain here and there due mainly to working at a computer and using a mouse allot. So, I do a shoulder stretching routine after my workout. Be sure to stretch your legs as well.

5. Get a good set of wireless earbuds that will with stand sweat. Upbeat music really helps keep you going. (The hotties at the gym are not bad for motivation to go to the gym either. Hey, even married men can still look right.)

6. Protein and diet. This is crucial and quite honestly the part I struggle with as I love having some IPA's during a Clemson game etc. And I just love to eat good food as most of us do. Control your calories by getting a fitness app to help you count the intake. You will want to be at a calorie deficit daily to lose weight. Don't gorge after a workout. Drink allot of water. I use myfitnesspal app to track my intake. Note: Don't look at weight too much. Muscle weighs more than fat. The important part is that you like the way you look. Eat lean meats and veggies. I try to be strict on the weekdays. Also, at our age you will need to take in close to your body weight in protein a day. Our body does not produce the testosterone that it once did. Protein will help repair the muscle fibers and also help prevent injuries. You are going to probably need to supplement using a shake or something to get there as it is allot of protein. Use low calorie supplements though.

7. Make sure you are taking a multivitamin that is meant for your age.

8. Go checkout AthleanX. He is a scientist and provides good insight on movements to be careful of that may cause injury. Important for us older folks.

9. Don't get discouraged. You will be sore in the beginning. This is again a lifestyle change. It takes time to establish the habit and you have to prioritize the workouts. Some days I know time is tight and I will just go and do a 45-minute HIIT (Hi Intensity Interval Training) workout. If you can stick with it, you are really going to like the way you feel and look.

I hope this helps and good luck on your fitness journey.

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Oct 27, 2024, 12:21 PM
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Just a side note as others have mentioned, I cannot stress enough to ease into this. My routine is something you will want to build up to. The poster that stated to train your body to start training is spot on. Rest is just as important as the workout as this is when your muscles will repair.

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Oct 27, 2024, 12:06 PM
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A lot of different recommendations here, but the one thing they have in common is: yes, it's good for you, do it.

I concur. I don't think there's a perfect one size fits all regimen (hence all the variation in suggestions), but you can find something that works for you if you go slow and do some research.

I lifted when younger, stopped at about 30, then started back six years ago at 55.

I'll tell you one thing that I haven't seen mentioned: you know that testosterone booster commercial where Frank Thomas says "she'll like it too"? Believe...I'm not joking...she'll like this too.

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I just ruptured both biceps tendons, so I am not doing anything right now

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Oct 27, 2024, 12:30 PM
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but I am 48 and workout everyday. Not for hypertrophy or show, but for longevity. Studies show that the key to longevity is lean muscle mass. Loss of muscle mass also is what leads to your metabolism slowing down because muscle requires more calories than fat. Dr. Peter Attia is well known in the longevity space, and where I get a lot of my information from. My wife owns a hot yoga studio here in Buckhead, and I do a lot of that (5 days/wk) as well. We also have a cold plunge and a sauna. Goal is to live well as long as possible. I do not want to be 75 and barely able to get around the house.

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Oct 27, 2024, 12:36 PM
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Still do daily pushups and squats at 70. Try to do 100 per day. Takes a couple hours. No more than 25 per set. 👍🏿🐅

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Oct 27, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Testosterone shots work wonders.

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Oct 27, 2024, 1:38 PM
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Regardless of age, we should all be exercising. I recommend that you start with the stronglifts 5x5 program. It uses consistent linear progression to get you stronger and it is a beginners program. It starts off very light so to can master form before getting heavy.

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No, because I hate gravity.


Oct 27, 2024, 2:26 PM
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🤣🤣🤣

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Oct 28, 2024, 9:54 AM
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I had shoulder pain so this person has some suggested things to avoid.

https://factsandphysio.com/exercises-to-avoid-with-rotator-cuff-injury/

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Oct 28, 2024, 10:31 AM
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I started Crossfit when I was around 55. Yeah, I know. I told the coaches I ain't training for the games and I ain't some 30 something guy, just trying to work up a good sweat for 20-30 minutes. My muscles were like "we've been here just fine for over 50 years and NOW you want us to do something?" Recovery is harder when you get older.

So I scale the cr*p out of every workout. I like it because it's different each time, I don't get bored just running or lifting and the coaches push me farther than I think I can go. Even talking to some of the younger guys in the gym. They say they have a lot of the same equipment at home, but don't push themselves at home like they would when they come in.

I was "chasing weight" for a while. Had a deadlift up to 300 and almost that for a back squat, etc. Until I had a hernia doing front squats. No longer interested in how much weight I can lift before I explode.

Mobility is the main issue. Can't overemphasize stretching properly. Yoga helps as well.

Was out of the gym for a while due to Covid. Recently returned to the gym and it's like I've never worked out in my life.

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