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Gridiron Giant [16034]
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Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 3:04 PM
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They keep talking about how our DLine is undersized and how they'll wear us down with the All-World Offensive Line...you know, the one that gives up more sacks, allows their RB to get less yards per carry and is basically behind Clemson in all statistics.
But I just looked at their depth chart vs ours (to be fair, this is at some random point this season...I don't know if it is the current rotation).
Ours read:
DE Rudolph 245, Foster 265, Henry 250
DT Davis 295, Williams 310, Kelly 305
DT Pinckney 295, Jefferies 280, Orhorhoro 285
DE Thomas 265, Rudolph 245, Mascoll 260
Theirs:
DE Cooper 257, Harrison 255, Friday 260
NT Hamilton 310, Landers 285, Togiai 300
DT Cornell 285, Garrett 295, Jackson 299
DE Young 265, Smith 267, Jean-Baptists 245
Based on that, it looks like our starting four average 275 to their 279. And the three deep is 275 to their 277.
What am I missing? Every narrative they throw at us as to why they have an advantage seems to not actually be true. How is their OLine better than ours? How is our DLine undersized? Aside from the "battle tested" deal, I don't see any truth to any of it.
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Trainer [31]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 3:13 PM
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Because they haven’t played us yet...because they are delusional...wishful thinking...take your pick.
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Campus Hero [13647]
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I think they mean with our odd front formations.
Dec 23, 2019, 3:15 PM
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3 of our linemen weigh less than 4 of theirs.
HTH
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110%er [5977]
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They’re just comparing their OL size to our DL size, and
Dec 23, 2019, 3:17 PM
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That’s a foolish comparison. Every time our DL or their DL steps on the field they’re smaller than the OL they face, being an effective DL is all about leverage, strength, quickness, and using your hands. The Buckeyes thinking the size differential will be an advantage will be disappointed at the end of the game.
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Clemson Conqueror [11636]
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Re: They’re just comparing their OL size to our DL size, and
Dec 23, 2019, 3:46 PM
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Excellent points. Quickness, agility and smarts are more important than size.
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Clemson Sports Icon [58028]
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Re: They’re just comparing their OL size to our DL size, and
Dec 24, 2019, 10:02 AM
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That's what she said
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Clemson Conqueror [11675]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 3:20 PM
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We about two biscuits shy!
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110%er [3675]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 3:23 PM
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Probably because they remember Big Dex and CW42 who weighed over 650 lbs together.
Our DTs are smaller than last year.
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Clemson Conqueror [11636]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 3:37 PM
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Our defense is very quick. I seem to recall quick 'Bammer defenses and quick Dolphin defenses winning championships in the past. Even Lombardi's Packers were not the biggest team, but very quick and very smart.
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Orange Blooded [2210]
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Orange Blooded [3508]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 4:00 PM
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Because some uninformed putz on ESPN probably said something like that, and rather than look at the rosters, they had rather parrot the narrative. They are going to know all they want to know about Clemson Saturday.
Spot it. This is gonna be fun
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Valley Protector [1487]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 4:28 PM
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Why argue with them? They are the best team ever and we are going to get killed because we didn’t play anybody.
Their OL is going to run base running plays straight up the middle like we are Michigan. All of our DL graduated and went to the NFL don’t you remember? We have nothing but walkon Rudy’s up front now.
It’s the same narrative from Aug 15th of this year.
Same story as 1978, 2014, & 2016.
They have more talent, thus we don’t have a chance. Just apply UGA base logic and it will make sense.
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Rival Killer [2935]
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^^^ POTD!
Dec 23, 2019, 10:20 PM
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Nailed it!
Go Tigers!!!
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Trainer [35]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 4:30 PM
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Not sure where that view is coming from...Clemson has their utmost attention and respect.
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Ring of Honor [23200]
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Thanks, Spartan fan, for clearing that up!
Dec 23, 2019, 5:18 PM
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Some of these T-Net poasts can be quite bizarre.
~JKB
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Gridiron Giant [16034]
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All-In [27366]
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They aren't all that swuft with the maths.
Dec 23, 2019, 5:16 PM
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31-0 didn't even register with them, apparently.
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Oculus Spirit [41698]
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they are with the meth though!
Dec 23, 2019, 5:18 PM
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bad up there in ohio
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Orange Beast [6232]
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Re:Defensive Line is undersized.
Dec 23, 2019, 8:33 PM
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They listen to certain talking heads on TV, radio and Youtube that use that as one of their talking points when matching the 2 teams up. OH31 State gotta grab at what they can.
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National Champion [8064]
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They Coots In Disguise
Dec 23, 2019, 10:19 PM
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Just like every game we aren't overwhelming favorites - you have a bunch of new sign ons to tnet. They are probably U of Sux fans posing as that other teams fans. It's the only way they can talk trash to Clemson or so they think - b/c they can't behind the strength of their team.
Same reason you see the Capital cursive letter A all over South Carolina after about 9 games every football season. They must identify with anyone who is a winner so they can feel good about themselves. Sad really!
BV hasn't forgotten how to stop the run. As long as that's the case I think we are alright. If the weight of their OL is the only thing they are "leaning on" it might be a long night. Fact check this - but we have played Bama with monstrous OL's in the past. No; not this season. But, we were probably outweighed then too!
My guess is they outweighed Wisconsin's DL as well. Wisconsin does not have depth along it's DL - we do. Wisconsin gave them all they could handle until they ran out of that initial adrenaline and the depth of Ohio State caught up( to the Buckeyes credit). I like our depth to provide not just some good reps; but some play making reps!
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CU Guru [1237]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 9:28 PM
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Who cares what they think, just spot the ball ref!!
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Oculus Spirit [39216]
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They Dumb Ohioans No One Cares What They Say***
Dec 23, 2019, 10:07 PM
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Rival Killer [2935]
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^^^ Excellent point!
Dec 23, 2019, 10:24 PM
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Go Tigers!!!
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Game Day Hero [4598]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 11:12 PM
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Because they think the little guys on the TV screen are actual size. Buncha morans.
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All-In [48078]
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Re: Another puzzle...why do Buckeyes think our DLine is small?
Dec 23, 2019, 11:13 PM
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Probably because our Dline just hasn't been that good and is smaller than last years.
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Gridiron Giant [16034]
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They aren’t comparing Clemson’s DLine size to last year’s
Dec 23, 2019, 11:35 PM
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Clemson DLine. What I am reading is that our DLine is undersized. Just makes no sense.
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Orange Elite [5304]
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All-TigerNet [10825]
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Now post the OL comparison side by side
Dec 24, 2019, 9:57 AM
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We will determine who is going to have a matchup problem.
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All-TigerNet [10825]
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Facts are not the Buckeyes strong suit. They live in a dream
Dec 24, 2019, 9:42 AM
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World
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