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CU Medallion [73569]
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Media - how about Maui?
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Aug 14, 2023, 9:53 AM
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Biden - No comment
But Ukraine gets another 40 billion so that's cool
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Re: Media - how about Maui?
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Aug 14, 2023, 10:04 AM
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5 days ago
AUGUST 09, 2023 Statement from President Joe Biden on the Wildfires in Hawaii HOME BRIEFING ROOM STATEMENTS AND RELEASES Jill and I send our deepest condolences to the families of those who lost loved ones in the wildfires in Maui, and our prayers are with those who have seen their homes, businesses, and communities destroyed. We are grateful to the brave firefighters and first responders who continue to run toward danger, putting themselves in harm’s way to save lives.
I have ordered all available Federal assets on the Islands to help with response. The Hawaiian National Guard has mobilized Chinook Helicopters to help with fire suppression and search and rescue on the Island of Maui. The U.S. Coast Guard and Navy Third Fleets are supporting response and rescue efforts. The Army is providing Black Hawk Helicopters to fight the fires on the Big Island. The Department of Transportation is working with commercial airlines to evacuate tourists from Maui, and the Department of the Interior and the United States Department of Agriculture stand ready to support post fire recovery efforts.
I urge all residents to continue to follow evacuation orders, listen to the instructions of first responders and officials, and stay alert
4 days ago discusses it in his press conference, announces the emergency declaration and federal response, details his conversation with the governor.
Should he go and throw paper towels?
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Re: Media - how about Maui?
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Aug 14, 2023, 10:37 AM
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That's just because there was no prepared statement. He's not allowed to just speak off the cuff anymore.
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me? no. cause thats what i expect out of this dude. I'm sure
Aug 14, 2023, 10:59 AM
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the Hawaiians are outraged tho. but at least Ukraine gets another 40 bill so thats cool
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Yes, you already mentioned the $40B to Ukraine.
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Aug 14, 2023, 11:03 AM
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One more time and I think it'll catch on as relevant to what's happening in Hawaii.
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Ukraine is getting another 40 bill***
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Aug 14, 2023, 11:05 AM
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And now Ukraine and Maui are inextricably attached to each
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Aug 14, 2023, 11:14 AM
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other.
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Re: And now Ukraine and Maui are inextricably attached to each
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Aug 14, 2023, 9:17 PM
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The inextricable is that Biden, our president, is so addled that he cannot make a simple comment expressing his condolences.
All he can cough up is “no comment.”
Would it have been too much for Biden to say ‘this is terrible’ or ‘it’s a tragedy’?
America’s leftiesg have incredibly low standards for their elected leaders. (See Fetterman and Feinstein in addition to Biden). Low self-expectations from the lefties translates into low expectations for their leaders.
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Re: And now Ukraine and Maui are inextricably attached to each
Aug 14, 2023, 9:26 PM
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Oh the irony of you speaking of low standards for elected leaders ....
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Re: me? no. cause thats what i expect out of this dude. I'm sure
Aug 14, 2023, 11:41 AM
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You don't think laundering 40 billion dollars through Ukraine is significant while our nation is encountering so many major crises on all sides?
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Biden responds to his no comment...
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Aug 14, 2023, 11:52 AM
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"Why would I comment on a fires in another country?"
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Laundering money..please explain.
Aug 14, 2023, 12:14 PM
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Typically that means the money was obtained illegally, and it needs to be "cleansed" by diluting it with other income through expenditure in construction, enhancements or just counted falsified income.
Since the money going to Ukraine is taxpayer money (or borrowed through the issuances of T-bills, t-bonds and other debt instruments) how was it obtained illegally? What is being "laundered"?
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See, there's this narrative that Zelensky is taking that
Aug 14, 2023, 12:23 PM
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$40B and building a standalone two-story garage in his backyard, and lining his pockets with the rest of it, because there's no accountability once that $40B is transferred. It's not true, but that part really doesn't matter, because it's a better story to believe that money just goes into an inexplible black hole with nothing to show for it and no clue how it was spent.
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Oculus Spirit [81246]
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Thats not semantics, its just wrong. Even "grift" is wrong.
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Aug 14, 2023, 3:35 PM
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"Grift" is small scale petty swindling.
The amount of money the US has provided Ukraine is not that, for certain.
And who would be the benefactor of this laundering, or grift, or crime (if that's what you really mean?)
We see the weapons we are giving them in use. We see they are being furnished to them.
If you have a problem giving money and supplies to Ukraine, that's a whole 'nother issue than meaning that there is an actual crime happening there.
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You got torched. There’s no recovery.
Aug 14, 2023, 2:03 PM
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Remember back when you defended Trump withholding aid to Americans?
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Re: Media - how about Maui?
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Aug 14, 2023, 12:35 PM
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I have a LOT of issues with Joe Biden, but don't see anything to criticize him on this. The best thing he can do is see to it that the FEMA responds appropriately and continue for now to stay away from Maui.
His arrival on Air Force One would be nothing but a photo op and a nuisance for the continuing recovery in Lahaina.
What we do deserve is a prime time speech addressing what our ultimate goal is in Ukraine. Is it complete withdrawal from Eastern Ukraine by Russia or restoration of Crimea to Ukraine?
Is Biden going to demand more out of the European countries to fund this war that does not directly threaten the US, but certainly does many European countries?
What are we doing or do we have any effort under way to encourage a negotiated settlement?
On Maui, I don't see a problem. I feel certain that Hawaii will receive a ton of federal assistance.
If anyone is worried over Maui, there is certainly no prohibition on anyone on this site contributing to the Red Cross, Samaritan's Purse, etc.
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Re: Media - how about Maui?
Aug 14, 2023, 5:42 PM
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Maybe suspend aiding everyone else when we have disasters of our own?
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Its because the gov't started the fires with space lasers!***
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Aug 14, 2023, 10:46 AM
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Or aliens or maybe even Chyna?***
Aug 14, 2023, 11:03 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81246]
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I read in here last week it was space lasers
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Aug 14, 2023, 12:10 PM
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Because the palm trees weren't all scorched.
I'm guessing aliens would be a great second choice
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Re: Media - how about Maui?
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Aug 14, 2023, 10:47 AM
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He could at least confirm what we all know - the fires are a direct result of the climate crisis. Anyone who thinks differently is Hitler.
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What is Hunter and the “big guy’s” cut of the $40B?***
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Aug 14, 2023, 11:19 AM
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Seems like an indefensible response from Biden.***
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Aug 14, 2023, 11:18 AM
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Apparently the rich men north of Richmond haven't figured
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Aug 14, 2023, 5:03 PM
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out a kickback scheme for Maui yet. When they do, they'll send them billions just like Ukraine.
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That's SOP for this administration... They're setting up
Aug 14, 2023, 8:38 PM
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for another 2008. Look who's running everything. It dang sure ain't JoeBi...
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