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I left NYC to come back home to the Carolinas for far less money so I could be close to my children. That hits right. His comments paint an estranged father image and it’s not a good look.
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Re: This can't be real...is this real?
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Yep…I turned down promotions in ATL and NY over the past 32 years to keep my kids close to family and not move them during their middle and high school years. Now, I live next to my dad and help him with things as he ages. Don’t regret choosing family over money/ego one bit.
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Re: This can't be real...is this real?
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Quinn thought it to be a step down? What planet does this guy live on? What has PSU done besides lose the games that matter?
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Again, Penn State has been more successful than we have recently.
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Our national championships were won in the previous decade. We can’t keep claiming them as if we are still on that level.
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Define successful and recently***
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The snarky I hate Dabo comments. Then why
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Do you think Allen thought it was a good place to be. Family yes. But I guarantee he thinks Dabo is doing something the right way and has a chance to be a part of that success again. But ###### on. This is why no one can take you seriously. Brad can do no wrong and Dabo can do no right. I get being critical and Dabo has been imperfect of course. But a sane rational person could be fair both ways.
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He’s just trying to get a rise out of you. He’s probably been this way his whole life. Just ignore his stupid comments.
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Re: Again, Penn State has been more successful than we have recently.
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Jan 18, 2025, 11:25 AM
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Major Harris was a talented QB for them and they were pretty pretty good. But Clemson put a whipping on them and changed his name to Minor Harris.
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Harris played for West Virginia but we did whip them soundly in the 1989 Gator Bowl. I remember it well because one of their illustrious fans wanted to fight me in the stands about the time Chester McGlockton sacked their has been excuse for a Heisman candidate for about the fifth time.
We won’t discuss the Orange Bowl a few years later.
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Re: Again, Penn State has been more successful than we have recently.
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Jan 18, 2025, 11:14 AM
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In a different century
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Jan 18, 2025, 9:32 AM
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Sometimes I agree with you Judge, but this one I'm going to have disagree with you! We have the same number of playoff appearances this decade. So it's hard to say Penn State has been better.
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Jan 18, 2025, 9:38 AM
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Being a good team does not make you elite or on the level Clemson was. PSU has not won jack since 81 and they have a severe black eye on the institution. It is truly an ignorant statement to say it is a step back. BUT these guys do work for FOX and oh they have the BIG contract. So yes they are biased and blow holing. Lavar has every right. He is a PSU guy. We would not be happy either. Quinn - take rhe BIG glasses off dude.
Let’s weigh the pros and cons than Allen weighed. It was a no brainer move honestly.
1. 2 equal programs where you can make the same money.
2. Which boss would you rather work for and in which culture. Clemson and Dabo all day.
3. He is not young and has an opportunity to be close to his kids and grandkids. I am going to enter the happy wife happy life here as well. Who would not do this.
4. Show me the list of folks that are not from PA that would want to live there. You have an opportunity to live in beautiful country with great weather during the winter vs PA. Easy choice here.
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Re: Again, Penn State has been more successful than we have recently.
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Well, it's number 3. The rest of it to him is equal. Tom is big 10. The weather for him was not a concern. As for culture and bosses, about equal. Except Dabo has won more. As Tom has said in all his interviews, it was the right time because of family. Dabo had to agree with his terms at psu, just be the coordinator. Like it or not, Clemson and psu are very much alike. Weather notwithstanding. Nice perk, but not a decided factor.
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Jan 18, 2025, 10:19 AM
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Just stop JK. Sometimes you try too hard to take a stab at the football program. I’ve never commented before on any of those posts but you make it so obvious.
Penn St hasn’t been anywhere near Clemson’s success in the last decade and that’s not debatable. Penn St had a great year this year so give them credit, but otherwise, Clemson has run them off of the rails.
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Our national championships were won in the previous decade. We can’t keep claiming them as if we are still on that level.
-take heart JK, the decade is young yet ************************************************** -->
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He knows what hes doing. Tries to be a master troll.
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Sad really. Once a very good poster and addition to the board. Just a shell here now, looking for reactions and clicks.
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Your musings about football have relevance much of the time. If your musings about basketball were similar, people wouldn’t be nearly as critical. But often your analysis is so skewed it is easily squashed. Our relevance run in accordance to making it to the final 4 ran into this decade. It was 4 years ago.
Want to talk about those 4 years? PSU 2020 was 6-7. 2021 7-6 2022 11-2. 2023 10-3.
Franklin is well known for not winning the big games. He has one big ten championship. Anyone can catch lightning in a bottle.
I’m guessing you’re the type of person that says FSU was a better job this time last year.
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:23 PM
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Our national championships were won in the previous decade. We can’t keep claiming them as if we are still on that level.
Ummm....
How many nattys have the state college mountain lions have won in the last decade?
I'll wait jester...
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:28 PM
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Our national championships were won in the previous decade. We can’t keep claiming them as if we are still on that level.
Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult - Winston Churchill
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:30 PM
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before this year the last time they won anything was in 2011 when they won the kiddie diddling championship i think sandusky was the defensive coordinator then
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:52 PM
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Swinney has two national championships at Clemson.
James Franklin has zero championships at Penn State.
The College Football world knows that Sweeney is capable of winning a national championship.
James Franklin has proven that he can get to the quarterfinals.
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I agree with a lot of what JK has to say, but not this. Penn St hasn’t sniffed a championship since the 80s, and has had 1 top 5 since the 1997. Franklin is not a good coach, he’s like Ryan Day. The (terrifying) mascot could do what he does with the resources at his disposal and the mostly weak schedule they play outside of 2-3 top 10 losses per year
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Well they do have the Sandusky thing? I mean that something they have they would dont??? FYI I told them.tbat on their message board and it didn't go well🤣🤣🤣
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Jan 18, 2025, 1:25 PM
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easily say it’s a lateral move. I don’t care. Heck, I love it. Basically it says “all things being equal, I’d rather be in Upstate SC…I’d rather coach in Dabo’s program”. Works for me.
But the main reason it’s a stupid argument is this: Clemson won their conference and made the playoffs with a solid offense that returns a bunch of talent and a mediocre defense that returns a lot of talent. The missing piece, many argued, was a solid DC. Penn State took a top defense to a non-conference winning, playoff appearance. There’s not much more Allen can do to get Penn State over the hump. He can, however, make a significant impact on Clemson.
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I wonder if Arrington feels the same way about players
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Transferring after only playing a year or two at a school?
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Everyone who transfers into PSU has integrity and everyone who transfers out does not.
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The last 2 lines are the best of the article and
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shows how stupid both guys are. Dabo 2 Nattys - Franklin at PSU 0 !!
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Sounds a little "crispy" to me.
Like Coach Allen said... He wasn't looking.
I would venture to say... Mom had something to say about that. His son came with him and his daughters in the caro
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Sorry ... *****Power surge**** Weird
Carolinas .. All kids close and then grandbabies... No brainier!!!
He seems to fit well with Clemson football culture!!
Give that guy a pacifier and blanket and put him in the corner to sulk. He will be okay!!
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Jealous and butt hurt. I love it.
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Go Tigers
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Butt Hurt?
Did Arrington play under Sandusky?
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Still too soon***
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Butt Hurt?
Did Arrington play under Sandusky?
Everyone with a pulse knows dang well their beloved joe-pa wouldn't let his grandson shower with that pedo. From perv state's own special counsel report " in order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the University — Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley — repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse from authorities,"
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I think Arringtons son is committed to play LB for Penn State next season so he probably feels a bit blindsided and/or betrayed by this. Not saying I agree with him but his kid probably agreed to go there at least in some part because of Allen and now he's gone hence the vitriol.
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Re: This can't be real...is this real?
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Would be funny if his son uses the Spring portal to play for Allen.
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That would be funny but doubtful to actually happen.
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Further evidence that BigTen fans are ...
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... some whiny, self-important ###### who suck at losing.
Not sure if there is another conference of teams out there who all think they deserve so much more after having done so little.
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Go Domers!!!
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What a Jerk.
It'd be one thing if this was a comment made sitting at a bar and someone overhead and wrote it... but to say something classless as this is crass. But on air? Plus it shows the stupidity.
Be hilarious if we end up playing them in the playoffs.
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They will have to get back in for us to play them. Franklin has proven he can’t win the big games.
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Has anyone thought maybe he did not like working for Franklin?
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Ding ding ding!!!
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Nah, he and Franklin were on the same page. They had a good relationship and he loved it up here. That was not a factor. In fact, as I stated above, Dabo changed and adopted the psu model of eliminating him from the position group etc.
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Honest question: do you have insider knowledge to support your declaration of their great relationship?
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State Penn & the town of state college allowed systemic pedophilia to occur for decades.
I'm sorry what did the article say to justify something about a college sport/coach?
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Who?!
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j/k ... anyway.. this dude isn't a serious person. Being around family is only for if they are really sick or about to die? Dude, that's when it's too late and you should have done it sooner.
Going to work for the active coach with the most championships isn't how you get to the championship? okay.....
There are 128 division 1 college football teams ... going from one of the 12 playoff teams to another playoff team ... neither of which won it ... is a downgrade?
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400,000.00 raise.***
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Big 10 fans cannot wrap their mind around the fact that Clemson is an upgrade from Penn State and that Dabo is a better coach than Franklin.
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But players leaving in the portal is just fine
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Perhaps family isn’t a priority for Arrington, or maybe he’s letting emotions and anger get the best of him. Whatever his reasoning, it ultimately only matters to him. He has every right to be upset, but that frustration is only holding him back. Meanwhile, Allen is where he wants to be, and if Arrington chooses to stay angry, that’s his burden to carry. Let him be mad.
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Sour grapes from someone still living in the JoePa era. Penn St is an afterthought in football
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Just sour grapes on his part. Maybe he's embarrassed that Allen would leave Pen State for little old Clemson.
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I don't hear him whining about the portal for athletes.
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Jan 18, 2025, 10:52 AM
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Consider the source. Don’t know who he is and
quite frankly don’t care what he thinks.
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:54 PM
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You must be REALLY young to not know who Arrington is. He was one of if best LB in the pros. Quinn was no slouch in college either. Drafted in the first round.
But being great at FB does not make one a genius, as their statements prove.
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Jan 18, 2025, 11:25 AM
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The guy thinks that Penn State is above Clemson. He's a snob.
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CU Medallion [20182]
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you peoples be too snowflakey sensitive
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Jan 18, 2025, 11:28 AM
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If you listen to the show, not surprising. LaVar wears his emotions on his sleeve for PSU. Loves his school as much as any any athlete anywhere loves their alma mater. He is saying these things as a super fan and donor as well.
As far as football field results, Allen’s decision will be proven right or wrong soon enough. His comments nor Quinn’s make me say
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Re: This can't be real...is this real?
Jan 18, 2025, 11:44 AM
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Allen has the right to take a different job that suits him better, for whatever reason he holds true. These guys sound like complete idiots. My advice to them is Stay Mad.
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Dynasty Maker [3235]
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Forget about which program is
Jan 18, 2025, 11:46 AM
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currently ascendant. Which one has the better culture… which one is a better fit for him. How could that not come up especially in the NIL what’s in it for me era. Wait a couple of years… if Clemson’s D is strong then IMO Clemson will be back and the gloomy days of 10 win seasons, just winning our conference championship and just making it to the first round of the playoffs will be a distant memory.
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Wonder what he was doing when Sandusky was running amok as PSU?***
Jan 18, 2025, 11:57 AM
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Clemson Icon [26301]
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:07 PM
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Lavar Arrington was a great college player. I am excited because he is upset with it. To me it means maybe it was a home run hire
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:16 PM
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That's about as sour grapes as a guys attitude could be. People have a right to change jobs. You might not even keep a player more than one year these days.
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Game Changer [1933]
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:55 PM
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Brady Quinn? Seriously?
Quinn and Arrington’s made them look weak to both of their podcast subscribers.
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Ring of Honor [22631]
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Question his math skills calling a big raise less than a lateral move.***
Jan 18, 2025, 1:24 PM
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Jan 18, 2025, 5:10 PM
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This seems like a no brainer and an easy decision. Allen has kids and I guess grandkids in the Carolinas. No desire to pursue head coaching opportunities. Working for head coach that has an incredible track record including multiple Conference Championships and two National Championships. Stable program and position. Great talent to work with. Beautiful weather and area of the country. 😀
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Clemson is Also 100% Less Kid Rapey***
Jan 18, 2025, 5:20 PM
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Jan 18, 2025, 6:09 PM
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LaVar Arrington..... Isn't that the reading rainbow guy? 🤣🤣
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