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Mar 28, 2025, 10:17 AM
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Clemson basketball is currently returning 7% of offensive production from 2024-25.

Posters defend this by saying Brad is good at using the portal. The last 3 seasons have returned 50%, 60%, and 40% of production. Rick Barnes had more returning production in his first season with the Slab 5.

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I just hope

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:25 AM
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Dabo is taking notes.

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Re: I just hope

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:21 AM
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He doesn’t need to take notes, he writes his own ######!

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Re: I just hope

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Mar 30, 2025, 10:59 AM
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TigerDNA said:

He doesn’t need to take notes, he writes his own ######!



Which is why we only had one legit DE on the roster last year and lost to the coots

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Wait

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Mar 30, 2025, 11:03 AM
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Didn’t the men’s basketball team lose to the coots too?

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Let's not clutter the thread with

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Mar 30, 2025, 11:18 AM
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such details. Potential portal candidates are probably reading this and we don't want to give them any more reasons to choose NC State.

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Nancy State has a dynamic, LEADING coach. hth***

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Mar 30, 2025, 11:36 AM
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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Kinda like replacing an entire defensive line,

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:50 PM [ in reply to I just hope ]
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secondary, half your linebackers, 3/5 of your OL, WR crew, and your backup QB. And that's being generous.

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Re: I just hope

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Mar 28, 2025, 8:19 PM [ in reply to I just hope ]
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That’s funny

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:30 AM
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Had a thread on this several days back but here is what I show as returning production from this years stat sheet.

MIN : 12%
FGM : 7%
FGA : 8%
FTM : 8%
FTA : 10%
3PM : 8%
3PA : 10%
PTS : 8%
OR : 8%
DR : 12%
REB : 11%
AST : 13%
TO : 7%
STL : 13%
BLK : 9%

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:11 PM
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I hope no one actually wasted any time calculating all that.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:33 PM
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Dude, it took all of 3 min. :)

It would take me longer to write out how I did it than actually doing it

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:30 AM
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ERMEHGERD!!!!

College basketball today is very comparable to college basketball in the 90's.

Since brownell has dug himself in such a deep hole, and next year is going to be so difficult, im sure you will be the first to congratulate brownell and team if we have a good year.

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:39 AM
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Our returning production is dropping 82% from what we returned last season. That was already in the NIL/Portal era. How did we average 50% returning over the last three seasons if 7% is the new normal? Why are we doing any recruiting out of hs if the team on the floor is going to be entirely transfers from here on out?

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:27 AM
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viztiz said:

Our returning production is dropping 82% from what we returned last season. That was already in the NIL/Portal era. How did we average 50% returning over the last three seasons if 7% is the new normal? Why are we doing any recruiting out of hs if the team on the floor is going to be entirely transfers from here on out?



Jesus you are so dramatic. If you knew our roster, then this wouldn't be surprising. You thought myles foster had another year, so it is clear you dont follow this team closely.

We knew going into the year that we were losing 4 starters. Without any transfers, we would already be losing 70% of our production. Everyone knew we were already losing a lot.The transfers only represent 22% of our production with most of that coming from chauncey. I am glad chauncey is transferring. The only transfer IMO that will have a negative impact is del, and we could easily find a better transfer to replace him.

I know you aren't up to speed on the current landscape of college basketball.your posts are 100% negative about our team. You dint want hate is best for clemson basketball as long as brad is our coach.

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um. . .

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Mar 28, 2025, 12:54 PM
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You dint want hate is best for clemson basketball as long as brad is our coach.

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LOL***

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:12 PM
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THIS***

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:32 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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Hey next time just say

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:57 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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"Everyone realizes next year's team is going to *struggle*."

Then hit "post message." Cuts down on the bloviation.

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Just like this years team was supposed to struggle, right?

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:06 PM
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LOL.

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They did fine for most of the season. Outstanding, even.

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:28 PM
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And then they went out on national TV and put up 13 when it mattered against a program that doesn't matter.

Moral: Sometimes, and you may already know this, it's not how much you struggle, it's when.

And CBB's timing, as usual, was impeccable.

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1-2 in the postseason says *struggle* loud and clear***

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Mar 28, 2025, 4:09 PM [ in reply to Just like this years team was supposed to struggle, right? ]
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Re: Just like this years team was supposed to struggle, right?

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Mar 28, 2025, 5:39 PM [ in reply to Just like this years team was supposed to struggle, right? ]
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The struggled in the time that counts, just being honest, we were 1-2 in the postseason.

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they did they

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Mar 30, 2025, 11:20 AM [ in reply to Just like this years team was supposed to struggle, right? ]
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they beat up on trash teams and lost to teams that were better.

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Re: Hey next time just say

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:09 PM [ in reply to Hey next time just say ]
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Exactly. Anything along the lines of “Brad’s definitely gonna have his work cut out for him” would be fine. Instead the give themselves away grinding their gears away why it’s the the normal state of affairs and, as always, plays in Brad’s favor.

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Seems one guy backs the other guy who's backing

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:35 PM
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Judge Keller and Judge Keller backs the basketball coach who would have already won the league after 15 years of trying were it not for the football coach who takes all the money from the basketball coach.

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Dramatic?!

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Mar 30, 2025, 7:51 AM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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… you certainly like the emperor’s new clothes, don’t you?!?! 🤣

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:01 AM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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These people said the same thing last year. They won’t make a prediction because they looked like fools this season…every season.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:13 AM
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How do you make a prediction when there is 1 kid on the team with any stats from the season that just finished? ONE

Why not ask people to make a prediction for the 28-29 season while we are at it.

We don't know who we will get from the TP, how the will gel, how CBB adjusts the system to fit that group of TP kids, how the freshmen mature. Just simply too many unknowns for ANYONE to really make a prediction.

But its funny to watch people demand one as though they are trying to keep receipts.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:38 AM
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I’m just saying the same people said we would have a disastrous season (unmitigated disaster) this year. I agree that the returning production is less than disirable, but I’ll refrain from making predictions until I see what the team ends up looking like, after the portal commits.

If anything, It means Brad need to earn his pay.

The same people try to posture and whine every offseason. It’s predictable.

“Brad is DOA, Hall should transfer”- three years ago
“Scheff sucks”- two years ago
“No returning experience”-last year

The Tigernet remembers all. 🙂

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:45 AM
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So you agree that asking for people's predictions is just silly at this point?

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By the same token, these doom and gloom posts about retuning production

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:33 PM
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are dramatic and unnecessary, yes?

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Numbers don't editorialize.

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:04 PM
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If you interpret losing 93% of offensive production as a doomed, gloomy reality, that's you. It's not 7-percent's fault.

Me? I'm stoked. This team is going to struggle but many of us already believe CBB will figure out this portal thing, and this program will come back better than ever and finally win the diminished ACC.

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Brad has already figured out the portal thing.

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:07 PM
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He has even been gracious enough to help Dabo with it, and now our football program is benefiting as well.

It’s so nice to have coaches who respect each other and help each other out when needed!

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I know it's great, right?

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:25 PM
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Dabo took Brad's advice, applied it, when out and won us another ACC title.

I love that. I love a coach who, instead of winning titles for himself, helps others win titles. Looking forward to six more years of it.

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Helped Dabo with the portal???


Mar 30, 2025, 7:48 AM [ in reply to Brad has already figured out the portal thing. ]
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Please! You are so delusional! Thank goodness Dabo doesn’t listen to Brad! 😄

Dabo has always stuck to his philosophy in the portal (using it sparingly and only to plug holes) and we’re returning more players than most teams in college football… the team is committed and players are loyal to Clemson.

Brad has lost his team due to his use of the portal… the catastrophic loss of players indicates to me that Brad doesn’t respect those players that are on a development path … the team has no loyalty to them … and now they have no loyalty to Brad since he just replaces those players every year.

It will take a change of coach to get player loyalty back into the basketball program. I’d be very surprised if we have a good year in basketball in 2025.

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Will we take another step backwards next season?

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Mar 28, 2025, 4:10 PM [ in reply to By the same token, these doom and gloom posts about retuning production ]
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Unacceptable

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Mar 28, 2025, 4:56 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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I’d love to see the so called experts look like fools AGAIN. Let them show their premature stupidity. Never stopped them before. Plus, most just flock to JK anyway. He lives in their heads.

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"desirable"

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:58 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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sorry. but come on man.

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"Refrain"

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:36 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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Yes. Do that.

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Can we expect to return to elite status and not take another step backwards?

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:55 AM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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Can we expect to make a run to the ACCT championship?

Can we expect to make the NCAA tournament and not choke?

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When have we been elite? Auburn lost to Yale last year.

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Mar 30, 2025, 1:36 AM
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#### happens. Not happy about losing rd 1 this and not feeling good about next year. But some of don’t seem to know how the NCAAT works. Upsets happen, especially when a 5 seed.


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Upsets happen when the coach is concentrating on his new contract


Mar 30, 2025, 7:56 AM
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Instead of doing his job and preparing the team for the next game.

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funny, the other coach signed a new contract with another school before the game***


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Re: Can we expect to return to elite status and not take another step backwards?


Mar 30, 2025, 6:58 AM [ in reply to Can we expect to return to elite status and not take another step backwards? ]
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Wow, did you just call us elite? It must have a new meaning.

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With basically a 6 man rotation, this was by design. We didn't develop any of

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:32 AM
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the other guys or rest our starters enough over the course of the season and got worn down with no depth options when we needed to be playing our best in the ACC and NCAA Tournaments.

Hopefully, we can spend the necessary money to build a starting five from the portal and sprinkle in some high school recruits for depth. It won't be cheap.

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:42 AM
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How about UVa with 9 players in the portal? All schools are dealing with this.

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:52 AM
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I think its more expected/accepted to have mass transfers when the coaching staff is overturned.

Our situation is different than UVA's so not a great comparison point.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:08 AM
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Mike Young and Earl Grant are the only precedents in the ACC for a returning coach to have such little productivity returning.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:43 AM
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Duke only returned 20% this year. I bet they had a bad year. How did they do?

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:59 AM
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Who is our Cooper Flagg? Their class last year had 4 5* and 2 4*s, we would kill for just one of those kids.

Using Duke, the most blue blooded of blue bloods, as a comparison to Clemson BBall is wild.

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Mar 28, 2025, 12:59 PM
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Yet, the geniuses on the board expect us to win the ACC over them.

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So youre saying we shouldnt compare ourselves to Duke.

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:35 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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So I’m sure you were thrilled that we beat them and barely finished behind them in the conference standings this year, weren’t you?

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Re: So youre saying we shouldnt compare ourselves to Duke.

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:25 PM
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Correct, I was happy with our regular season win totals and beating Duke. Seems weird that you feel the need to ask a fan of Clemson sports that

I was referring to our HS recruiting compared to Dukes and their ability to just fill 5* who leave with more 5*, which you'd agree we are not on the same level. But you knew that.

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Facts matter. You left some out.


Mar 30, 2025, 7:09 AM [ in reply to So youre saying we shouldnt compare ourselves to Duke. ]
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Yes, was nice win. We won at home.

Neutral /away games, we lost to Sc, Boise, Memphis, and Louisville twice. We did not play Duke at their home, unc at their home.

Teams like Clemson win with developed players that function as a team.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:00 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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That 3X what were bringing back.

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Mar 30, 2025, 8:55 AM
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viztiz said:

That 3X what were bringing back.



If only chauncey was coming back..... that would have brought our returning production total to 19%.

We would then be destined for greatness per duke's precedent.

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Sure, comparing Clemson to Duke is probably the right

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:05 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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play at this point in the thread.

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Mar 30, 2025, 7:05 AM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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Such bad comps. Do you really think before you post?
Duke actually recruits high school players who push out others, or they go pro.
When was the last time we brought in a true freshman group who performed well like Duke? Answer, Brownell does not.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 12:17 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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Our situation is indeed different. We have lost our best guys to something called graduation.

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apples and oranges, UVA is replacing a coach not a 15 yr guy

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Mar 28, 2025, 10:53 AM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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and before people mention Duke, Duke loses 5 stars that want more PT do to the other 5 stars playing. They then replace them with other 5 stars or former 5 star transfers.

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:03 AM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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Some schools. Not all schools. Since 2020 lowest returning production

UNC 45.5
Duke 11.5 (Coach K retired)
NC State 35
UVA 25
Wake 25
GT 42
FSU 30
Miami 31
VT 13
BC 12
Syracuse 36
ND 2 (coaching change)
Louisville 0 (coaching change)
Pitt 28

Single digits correlates with coaching changes. Clemson has shown it has the resources to pull 2-3 meaningful contributors from the portal. He’s gonna need 5 this year. Did we double his NIL budget. We’re spending NIL money on recruits we aren’t playing. Is the administration giving him permission to have a bad season to develop the young talent? Or will there be another mass exodus next year.

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:42 AM
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How are you so confused by this? The more people we lose, the more NIL money we have freed up. We will not be paying NIL to chase Hunter, Zachary, Lahkin, Schef, etc.

My god you are bad at this.

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:01 PM
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Yes because prices are static. You got me.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:03 PM
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Which scenario do you think we would have more NIL money to disperse amongst transfers? Lmao. You argue some of the dumbest bs.

1. A year where returning starters include Chase Hunter, the Schef, and chauncey, and dillon

2. A year where we are returning Dillon Hunter, and christian reeves?

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Mar 28, 2025, 5:10 PM
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So you’re doubling down on the fixed price argument?

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:09 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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If your argument is failing, one option is to insult the other guy. Very predictable.

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Mar 28, 2025, 12:37 PM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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UVa is changing coaches...

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Mar 28, 2025, 12:47 PM
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Thought this was a post on our Tournament first have field goal %.

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Mar 30, 2025, 7:00 AM [ in reply to Re: 7% ]
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UVA had coaching change.
Don’t compare a team that was horrible with coaching change - with a team getting bounced in first round of ncaa.

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68% of the losses are guys whove exhausted their eligibility if you count JZ

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:06 AM
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I haven’t heard anything about his future. If he is able to come back you have to add 15% to your tally. Of the ~20% that is transferring out the only real loss is Del Jones; I’m not really lamenting the departures of Wiggins and Heidbreder

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Re: 68% of the losses are guys whove exhausted their eligibility if you count JZ

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:06 AM
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Backfill it however you want.

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Im not sure what you mean; all I listed were facts

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:33 AM
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50% of our production came from Chase, Shef, and Lahkin; 3 guys who combined for like 14 years of college basketball play.

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Re: Im not sure what you mean; all I listed were facts

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:04 PM
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Doesn’t change the fact that they are leaving. Percentage is percentage. Other people trying to frame it is as the portal and current state of game. But Brad neglected developing recruits two years in a row to maximize results to protect his job. Understandable but has also left the team in a bad situation.

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Are you saying you would have preferred to lose more the last couple of years

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:38 PM
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in order to possibly develop reserves more for 2025-2026?

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Re: Are you saying you would have preferred to lose more the last couple of years

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:07 PM
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We won 12 games by 15 or more points. Are you saying an expanded role for his recruits would have meant losing?

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Yes, if necessary for the program. Not beat historically bad cupcakes by 20.


Mar 30, 2025, 7:21 AM [ in reply to Are you saying you would have preferred to lose more the last couple of years ]
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You play the long game, you get meaningful minutes and develop players. We don’t crow about winning games and finishing 3rd in league lay and 3/4 in conference tournament or losing in the first round of the ncaa to an inferior team. We build and develop. This “historical” year will f beating historically bad teams is “hysterical”.

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I dont know what Brownell did or didnt do to develop players; neither do you

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:48 PM [ in reply to Re: Im not sure what you mean; all I listed were facts ]
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But maximizing results each year IS the current state of the game. Can we compete in basketball recruiting? It might be that a school like Clemson has to rely on the portal to get guys who fit into a team. For example Duke has 4 5 stars in their 2025 recruiting class; how much did that cost in NIL? $10M, $15M? That’s who we’re trying to keep up with in our conference. 37% of our scoring this year came from Transfers; if JZ doesn’t come that number will prolly need to be double this year.

And yes I know McNeese doesn’t have those resources; we picked a bad night to have a bad half.

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:13 PM
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I know that he didn’t feel like any of them were worthy of significant playing time despite handling most of our schedule with ease. That reflects on development to me.

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Re: I dont know what Brownell did or didnt do to develop players; neither do you

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Mar 30, 2025, 7:24 AM
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True. But add in his ability to identify talent and growth. He recruited these guys. If they stink and he wasted a scholarship - that’s on Brad.

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THIS is the winner!


Mar 30, 2025, 7:17 AM [ in reply to Re: Im not sure what you mean; all I listed were facts ]
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Just fact.

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On the bright side, Turnovers could potentially be down 93%!***

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OP does their best to skew a statistic in their agenda in anyway possible.

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Mar 28, 2025, 11:45 AM
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A team that was senior heavy is losing a mass majority of its scoring production?

Color me shocked.

Common sense ain’t too common anymore, that’s for sure.

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Re: On the bright side, Turnovers could potentially be down 93%!***


Mar 30, 2025, 7:25 AM [ in reply to On the bright side, Turnovers could potentially be down 93%!*** ]
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Thank goodness missed shots are not considered turnovers.

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You're just as exhausting as Judge***

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That is saying something.***

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It's year 16 master plan. He is bringing in better talent than he ran off.***

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Please tell us, who did Brownell run off?***

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Every b-ball fan in Indiana?

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:18 PM
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(Shot in the dark. Could be wrong. Just trying to answer your question.)

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Re: Please tell us, who did Brownell run off?***

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Mar 30, 2025, 7:30 AM [ in reply to Please tell us, who did Brownell run off?*** ]
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All of them. He recruited them with the promise to develop them. He either lied or failed.

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Do we know how much production from other teams we are returning?***

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:08 PM
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It doesn't matter we still have BB and we will lose

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:19 PM
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in the 1st round of some kind of tournament either NIT or the NCAA.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:21 PM
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We will be lucky to be over .500 in the conference next season. This year should've been our year....totally choked.

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Re: 7%


Mar 30, 2025, 7:31 AM
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In any decent conference, I would agree with you. The ACC is so bad, wHo knows?

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Dramatic post.

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Mar 28, 2025, 1:31 PM
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How about you wait and see how things turn out with the portal as well as our returning players before you panic?

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Can we expect to not take another step backwards?

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:55 PM
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The program is in decline. Can Brad coach his way out of it?

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Our win total went up this year, how is that declining Bowlhunter?***


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Did you see the tournament season?

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Mar 28, 2025, 8:10 PM
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Definitely a step backwards next season, Pat.

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Re: Dramatic post.

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:14 PM [ in reply to Dramatic post. ]
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What wordage did I use that qualifies as “dramatic”? If you read it as dramatic that’s your interpretation of the facts. Why would that be?

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You werent going for dramatic with your post title and content?***

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Re: You werent going for dramatic with your post title and content?***

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Mar 30, 2025, 12:22 PM
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The title is “7%”. Not sure it could be less dramatic. And the content is facts. If you think stating those facts is dramatic then maybe you have concerns you are unwilling to address.

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The BET is a bit sensitive these days.

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Mar 30, 2025, 12:27 PM
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(Brownell Excuse Team). BET.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 PM
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Brownell Bros will write a paragraph explaining why this is desirable or either make personal attacks.

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Re: 7%


Mar 28, 2025, 2:56 PM
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Brad new it would be low production returning with so many seniors on the team. But I don't think he or any one else thought it would be this low.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 30, 2025, 7:37 AM
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If Brad knew - why did he not develop the bench? Give them meaningful minutes? Then, if your answer is they stink - then why did he recruit them to begin with? Either way, Brad owns it.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 28, 2025, 2:58 PM
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Sometimes you don't. Nothing wrong with it. Duke is starting 3 true frosh. Michigan started 5 true frosh oce. Who cares? Our old dudes left. We had one transfer that left that mattered. There is no story here. You should be happy with the talent we have coming in and the portal players we will get.

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Careful Viz, you don't have the money to delete this kind of post anymore, might

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Mar 28, 2025, 3:10 PM
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be another unmitigated disaster on your hands

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Mar 28, 2025, 5:13 PM
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This post is factual as of the time it was posted and doesn’t make any projections about next seasons actual results. Why do you find it concerning?

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So you only deleted your non-factual posts?***


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Re: 7%


Mar 28, 2025, 3:32 PM
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That happens when you have a lot of seniors and transfers.

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Mar 28, 2025, 9:14 PM
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Too bad players can't play for 6 years like Chase. In todays game even if they could most would play for 6 different schools.

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Re: 7%

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Mar 30, 2025, 6:43 AM
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Well said. The Brownell defenders try and muddy this by spouting how man portal players left their teams last year. Those players left for various reasons- coaches leaving, upgrading, wanting to win, etc. we have none of that.
Our issue is high school recruiting, development,and retention. Why did we not play our bench a lot of meaningful minutes this year?
We won a lot of lopsided games against the cupcake schedule we had. They could have played, developed, and Been starters, valuable backups, role players. But nope, Brownell did not and now we will have a team of players who ran from their other schools for whatever reason. You pick up portal players to fill a role or gap - not to fill your starting team.

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Mar 30, 2025, 9:11 AM
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"Production" since the advent of NIL and the portal could be a year to year turnover , and in a lot of cases already is.
As an old schooler , I hate it ....but Brad has shown that he can do the things with this new mechanism to win at a high level.
Trust the process? Lol.

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Mar 30, 2025, 10:21 AM
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Beat that dead horse …over and over!!!

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Re: 7%

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Mar 30, 2025, 10:29 AM
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That's fine. They only used 7% of what they had available in the first half against McNeese anyway.

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Mar 30, 2025, 10:35 AM
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A well placed dig , if ever there were one !

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Mar 30, 2025, 11:51 AM
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Oh word? You seem angry

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