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6 quarters. You folks have been very kind to DJ.
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6 quarters. You folks have been very kind to DJ.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:05 PM
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Your analysis of him is off. He is not as accurate as y'all have been saying.

(No matter how bad you said he is, he's worse.)

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:06 PM
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We tried to tell ya Brett 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:10 PM
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Why you ignoring so many posters? Just curious.

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I'm not ignoring any posters.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:31 PM
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I'm watching the game. I don't past a lot as the game is being played.

After the game I will read every post. You folks have every right to bask in the problems of FSU. Gonna be a long season, even if we somehow win tonight.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:34 PM
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You ain’t winning tonight.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:41 PM [ in reply to I'm not ignoring any posters. ]
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He has been the same at CLemson, OSU and now FSU. He has a mean 'deadleg' moved when he takes off running though. LMAO.

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She is talking about the poster who replied first.***


Sep 3, 2024, 8:24 AM [ in reply to I'm not ignoring any posters. ]
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Sep 3, 2024, 9:18 AM [ in reply to I'm not ignoring any posters. ]
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My fear is that FSU benches DJ before we play them.

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Sep 3, 2024, 10:46 AM
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I think the backup is even worse than DJ. Think it’s the same kid that went 19 of 51 passing last season. From what I’ve heard he hasn’t gotten much better either.

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? wasn't directed at you****


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Sep 2, 2024, 9:07 PM
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He just needs another year to develop.... Don't say we didn't warn you. I do feel bad for you Bret... I hope you guys win this one, but you can't help but chuckle a bit after listening to us complain for two years about his QB play to see it in year 5.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:10 PM
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I prefer they have two losses. I want fsu to not be a factor for the ACC title.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:22 PM
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I prefer they have 8 losses. Wins against The U, ND, UNC, and the Gators

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your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.***

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:08 PM
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Re: your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.***

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:10 PM
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I almost fell out of my chair watching the first pass by Cade in the UGA game.... it was a bad DJU flashback.

When we won the toss and elected to receive followed by that first play, I knew what was going to happen even though I couldn't turn it off.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:39 PM
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Spot on b99 … saw the same thing, good call …HB wide open and Cade throws it in the dirt, well..turf I guess .. flashbacks ..

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:46 PM [ in reply to Re: your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.*** ]
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This all day

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:51 PM [ in reply to Re: your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.*** ]
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Knew exactly what we were in for that moment.

Sigh

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Sep 3, 2024, 2:27 PM [ in reply to Re: your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.*** ]
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Read my mind……first pass at the feet followed by penalty …it was over at that moment

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That first play AND his last play


Sep 3, 2024, 3:01 PM [ in reply to Re: your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.*** ]
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… where he threw a bullet at our receiver that was no more than 10 yards away … how is someone supposed to catch that?

I wish his decision-making was a whole lot better … and hoping he learns that skill.

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Sep 3, 2024, 9:09 PM [ in reply to Re: your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.*** ]
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I thought DJ would be Heisman quality since he was not only a portal player, but a double portal player. It just doesn’t get better than that.

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Good mercy your post is word for word what I thought.


Sep 3, 2024, 10:31 PM [ in reply to Re: your coach will learn to run him more near goal line.*** ]
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Glad you said it better than I would’ve.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:09 PM
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lol nobody here was kind to DJ.. some still believe he’s better than Cade but Cade had better stats vs UGA then DJ had his last time playing the #####.. so that should tell you all you need to know

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:13 PM
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Whether he is better or not is debatable. All I know is DJ was 22-6 as a starter at Clemson and Cade is 9-6.

If winning is the ultimate criteria…. Not defending, just sayin’

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:14 PM
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That’s more of a testament to the coaches than DJs ability

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:18 PM
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Well, we fired his QB coach…

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:17 PM [ in reply to Re: 6 quarters. You folks have been very kind to DJ. ]
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Cade played Tennessee in a bowl compared to ISU for DJ.. DJ loss to the Coots and Cade hasn’t. Cade had a bad game vs Duke, Georgia and Tennessee all other games were very close loses

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:23 PM
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So now we are counting close losses as a positive?

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:33 PM
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Yeah,they both blow

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:02 PM [ in reply to Re: 6 quarters. You folks have been very kind to DJ. ]
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If your comparing the play of the qbs then yeah

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Just saying that i know what you are saying, but....


Sep 2, 2024, 10:43 PM [ in reply to Re: 6 quarters. You folks have been very kind to DJ. ]
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we still had some better players with DJ than we have right now...

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Sep 2, 2024, 11:03 PM [ in reply to Re: 6 quarters. You folks have been very kind to DJ. ]
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Anyone who can’t see that Cade is a significant upgrade over DJ must have their eyes closed. I said before the season that it would probably be game 3-4 before Offense really started to gel. I still think that will be the case. By game 4-5 I think we’re humming.

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Sep 3, 2024, 12:55 PM
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Significant for sure. Any upgrade from Popwarner to Freshman footbal...still not good enough. Cade is never going to be a great QB. This should be very obvious by now.

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Sep 3, 2024, 3:32 PM [ in reply to Re: 6 quarters. You folks have been very kind to DJ. ]
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based on what?

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:09 PM
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I honestly feel for you Bret. You have Memphis and cal b4 smu. You have to bring in the backup and hope your D can hold them off until the backup gets comfortable. Memphis will be tough based on what I've seen so far.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:25 PM
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I have to admit there is part of me that wants DJ to still be starting when we play them. And the rest of me wants to see us sack him more than GA did in 2021. Sorry Bret.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:09 PM
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My FSU friend says that your lines are softer than Charmin and it’s not DJs fault that nobody could do it behind this line?

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Here was a comment I made in the first half.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:36 PM
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Our DL is soft. Our LB are horrible. Our DB's are confused. Other than that the D looks good.

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:56 AM
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lol

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Norvell's worse.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:10 PM
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The program is a train wreck. Won't say he's doing to FSU with Jimbo did to aTm but it's close.

Y'all deserve better. Sorry this is happening.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:10 PM
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We tried to warn you ;)

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:10 PM
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As Novell told the reporter when asked, what did you tell your team"? "It could be worse"...wow!

As we all said, bench DJ and develop those QBs behind him.

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DJ cant hit the side of a barn inside a barn with the doors closed.***

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:12 PM
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Probably the most hyped QB in the history of football. Coach Swinney said he made Trevor Lawrence look normal. He looks like he always looked. Never improved from day one.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:13 PM
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Glad yall got him

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:13 PM
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Still not sure why Norvell though it was a good idea to bring him in. DJ has had plenty of film to show he is not a good QB. He still looks the exact same as he did his first year starting for us.

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:08 AM
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Norvell believed what people were saying about him being the 'quarterback whisperer'. Pride goeth before a fall (abbreviated from Proverbs).

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:14 PM
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I would feel bad if FSU Twitter didn’t go after Clemson saying “mikes the qb whisper Dabo didn’t know how to coach him” 🤣🤣

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:17 PM
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DJU is Clemson's payback to Norvell for backing out of that game in Tallahassee the morning of the game during the Covid year. Like a implanted mole in the program.

I miss Big Dave's tweets....


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Sep 2, 2024, 10:49 PM
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Trojan horse

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:19 PM
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Not pulling against the kid. Just never progressed. Throws a hard to catch ball and rarely goes through progressions. Frankly, we didn’t upgrade with Cade so we feel your pain.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:22 PM
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signed him

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:25 PM
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DJU was on path to win a Heisman after the games vs ND and BC when TL was out with Covid. That off-season he signed a huge NIL deal with Bojangles..... he was never the same since. Peaked far too early.


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Hey Buddy BRET!

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:29 PM
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We ain't trading Cade for DJ and don't even
ask!

LOL~

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:50 PM [ in reply to Re: It is what it is with him...you had to know what you were getting when you ]
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And Dr Pepper. I just saw him in a sports drink commercial. I don't understand.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:26 PM
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Hey Brett. When we evaluate DJU, we are including his once a season great games. An anomaly for sure but part of his body of work.

Unfortunately, it rarely translated to a better second half after a poor start. We feel your pain.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:28 PM
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Hey Brett. When we evaluate DJU, we are including his once a season great games. An anomaly for sure but part of his body of work.

Unfortunately, it rarely translated to a better second half after a poor start. We feel your pain.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:32 PM
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Move DJ to punter.

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Or halfback ***


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Sep 2, 2024, 9:34 PM
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We sympathize with you because we had to put up with him for 2 years. Of course we have some of our own problems with QB play.

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Brett everyone respects you on this board. We were


Sep 2, 2024, 9:35 PM
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being respectful to you.

DJ is awful. He’s got to be benched.

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Thanks. If you guys want to needle me,...

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:44 PM
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.... I understand it. I've been around here long enough to know it's good natured ribbing.

Have at it. Based on 2.5 quarters tonight, FSU will not be bowl eligible.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:59 PM
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Game isn’t over. I’m not a DJ fan but FSU has. Lot of talent on the roster.

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:07 PM [ in reply to Thanks. If you guys want to needle me,... ]
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Much respect to you Brett, but I have to agree with the way Boston"s O- line is bullying your defense at the moment.

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:21 PM [ in reply to Thanks. If you guys want to needle me,... ]
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We know how you feel.

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Sep 3, 2024, 4:02 AM
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Georgia is kind of in another class than GT and BC

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:51 PM [ in reply to Thanks. If you guys want to needle me,... ]
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No. I like your posts. It's not your fault. DJ. He's not good.

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I like DJ but he should have pursued baseball. Plus I cant laugh and point

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:36 PM
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When we have our own issues to deal with.

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:38 PM
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I'm thinking Bojangles and Dr Pepper are wanting their coney back as well as The Florida State chop chop university

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:12 PM
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They gave DJ a rabbit?

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Sep 2, 2024, 9:47 PM
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Wait till you get to the best part, he actually gets worse later into the season.

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:08 PM
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At least you are a good sport about it

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:11 PM
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I don't know why FSU fans were so excited about him.

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:33 PM
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Hey, his turnover numbers have gotten better. But everything else is exactly the same. Welcome to everyone playing cover zero against you and strangling your offense. DJU has truly eclipsed Logan Thomas now. Instead of wrecking just one football program, DJ is going for a hat trick.

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Sep 2, 2024, 10:34 PM
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I am truly sorry for FSU. Now DJ at QB has ruined two good teams in the ACC. Why did coaches believe this player was the answer? Maybe he’d be good at a different position but this just isn’t it.

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We were extremely happy when he left

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Sep 2, 2024, 11:06 PM
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We watched his crap for two years. He cannot play. Slow, slow, slow. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

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Jane was average ... just saying

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Sep 2, 2024, 11:21 PM
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I really just don't understand how FSU thought they had enough mayonnaise to make chicken salad with DJU after Clemson and OSU?

I'm also trying to figure out why we played him as much and for a long as we did.

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He should have stayed at Oregon State. He is not an NFL caliber QB.


Sep 2, 2024, 11:32 PM
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But he pretends to be a Power 5 CFB every Saturday. Norvell will lose his job over this.

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Sep 3, 2024, 3:35 AM
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Sorry, man... We told you so (I hate it when people say it to me too)

I saw typical dj football tonight - on the interception, there were three BC defenders there, no seminoles in the same zipcode yet it goes right to a BC guy - bonus for him - he has two blockers right there beside him!

Anyone who says that Cade is dj 2.0 is high on something.

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Sep 3, 2024, 12:50 PM
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And you guys TD'd me, chastised me, and did everything to me except whip me with a wet noodle when I coined the phrase "BIG STINKO". Fast forward 3 years, now you guys are ALL-IN with the crap talk. Shame shame shame....a bunch of you owe me an apology, or at least thumbs up?!!

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Sep 3, 2024, 12:52 PM
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Incidentally, I also coined the phrase "BIG PLINKO" to describe his running style. Just sayin'

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Sep 3, 2024, 6:48 AM
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FSU has far bigger issues than DJU...

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Maybe not bigger, but several just as big.


Sep 3, 2024, 5:06 PM
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The problems are so numerous fixing 1 or 2 will still leave a leaky boat.

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Sep 3, 2024, 2:29 PM
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Yup. It's like watching Phil Neikro pitch.........ya just never know!

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Sep 3, 2024, 2:33 PM
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Hey Bret.........BTW, how did you like those Herman Munster lead boots he plays in? And those stumps he shoves down into them with the cute little tight gym shorts. That's a high fashion look, now! Must be dang near impossible dragging those things around all night. Just sayin.....

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Sep 3, 2024, 2:34 PM
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I thought he did make some good throws last night which was more than I saw on any one game for us. Tell Mike thanks for bringing him in as it helps alleviate our misery.

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Sep 3, 2024, 4:48 PM
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All of us are having some fun at Bret’s expense and it does help us deal with our own misery over the decline in our program. I hate to confess that I have a very uncomfortable gut feeling that if DJ is still the QB when we play them….he will have a stunning performance like he did when he played ND in South Bend.

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Most Nole fans will be shocked...


Sep 3, 2024, 5:08 PM
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...if he sees the field against Clemson.

And, they will be even madder than they will be shocked.

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:56 PM
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You guys will have another and probably better QB ready for us. I told my brother that the best time to play the Seminoles was early. I predict they will be much improved by the middle of the season

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:19 PM
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Brett- DJ will make some throws but he is too inconsistent to be a good College QB. He looks worse this year than last year because he is on a team that can’t run the ball. FSU didn’t run the ball all that well last year. It also did not help that the TE could not catch the ball.
FSU also can’t stop the run so they have to go for it on 4th downs because they can’t afford to give the opponent extra possessions.
I am afraid the Noles have more to fix than one position.
The Noles playoff hopes are all but spoiled with two conference losses this early. They are good enough to upset a team or two. I hope it is the Canes or the Irish.

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BretFSU, your boys are a 6-6 team at best this year. Seriously.


Sep 3, 2024, 8:03 PM
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I have no ill will towards your team but see a lot of weaknesses just as you have pointed out. DJU is a major liability. The wide receivers outside of Poitier are not very good. Number 84 should bever be allowed to step on the field again. How many passes did he drop? Six?? D-Line got pushed around by BC and Castellano ran wild on your defense like his head was on fire and his ### was catching! (Little Charlie Daniels reference there).

Best of luck the rest of the way but I think it might be a rough year. Who knows! I would smile a bit if y'all took Miami to the woodshed!

Go Tigers!!!

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If our defense was as good as advertised...


Sep 3, 2024, 9:08 PM
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.... and our OL was as good as advertised, we could be a 10-2 team with Brock Glenn at QB.

But, as of today, I think 6-6 is slightly optimistic.

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As I said: Bench him now.


Sep 4, 2024, 12:48 AM
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Do not fall into the desperation of hoping DJ will turn the corner any day now. I hoped for the guy throughout an entire season never questioning Dabo's resolve to see the kid succeed. Toward the end of the season I reckoned Dabo had played him long in every game for two reasons.

The first that he would turn the corner but then finally I resolved that Dabo played him so his stats would look attractive to another team. I believe that is true and that Dabo felt DJ could and would win at least as many games as his backup and that he didn't want to damage the kid's ego by benching him while knowing that college football was all the kid was ever going to have.

Norvell bought a stat master. After Clemson he went to a conference which is noted for not playing defense. His stats look great but it's all circumstantial.




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Cade is mediocre at best and not a DJ debacle yet...***


Sep 7, 2024, 2:36 PM
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